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Convoy carrying civilians and western journalists targeted by Turkish strike in Northern Syria- 11 killed and 70 wounded (Updates on conflict)

 
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Turkey 14th largest army in the world.
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355,200 armed service personnel
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We have a real battle between two real armies shaping up.
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To paraphrase Brian Clough, on paper, Turkey should win, but wars aren't fought on paper.
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Syrian armed forces:

142,000
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We have a real battle between two real armies shaping up.
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To paraphrase Brian Clough, on paper, Turkey should win, but wars aren't fought on paper.
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Turkey against just Syria yes.



But Syria, the Kurds, the SDF and maybe the Russians...
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And then there's the Iranians...
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Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.
15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.✻
16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
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#BREAKING #MANBIJ

SNA AT THE FRONTLINE OF MANBIJ:

"WE WILL NOT ALLOW THE REGIME OR RUSSIANS ENTER MANBIJ, WE ARE THE SONS OF MANBIJ."
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SNA is jihadists who work for Turkey under that name; they’ve killed Kurds, Assyrians, and Christian Syrians under a guise of SNA.
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I hope those 11 dead are the western MSM stooges, not the civilians..
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At least its not US troops.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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Maybe Trump is letting Syria and Russia do the dirty work and get rid of Turkey.
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And then there's the Iranians...
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


That is a fair point, but they are dealing with Saudi Arabia at the moment too.
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Breaking News @AlertChannel

#Breaking: #Syria has just declared war on #Turkey!

12:23 PM · Oct 13, 2019

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not a war declaration after WWII ..
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Breaking News @AlertChannel

#Breaking: #Syria has just declared war on #Turkey!

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not a war declaration after WWII ..
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Not strictly true. Ethiopia and Eritrea declared war on each other in 2008.
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Soldiers numbers are irrelevant but Turkish Army is way stronger than Assad's army. Assad can only win with Russian support. But that would be a direct confrontation between a NATO member and Russia.
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:kkerdo:
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And your trump
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Breaking News @AlertChannel

#Breaking: #Syria has just declared war on #Turkey!

12:23 PM · Oct 13, 2019

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not a war declaration after WWII ..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78074291


Not strictly true. Ethiopia and Eritrea declared war on each other in 2008.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux



the exception that confirms the rule
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Soldiers numbers are irrelevant but Turkish Army is way stronger than Assad's army. Assad can only win with Russian support. But that would be a direct confrontation between a NATO member and Russia.
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yes but turkey is an aggressor..
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Soldiers numbers are irrelevant but Turkish Army is way stronger than Assad's army. Assad can only win with Russian support. But that would be a direct confrontation between a NATO member and Russia.
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Hezbollah. They already kicked Israel's ass. Turkey will be no different. Russia and Iran don't have to get directly involved.
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Breaking News @AlertChannel

#Breaking: #Syria has just declared war on #Turkey!

12:23 PM · Oct 13, 2019

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 Quoting: exlibris

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not a war declaration after WWII ..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78074291


Not strictly true. Ethiopia and Eritrea declared war on each other in 2008.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


According to wikipedia there has been a declaration of war between Georgia and Russia in 2008.
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Maybe Trump is letting Syria and Russia do the dirty work and get rid of Turkey.
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Well, I'm gonna give him credit and think he knew that they would sort it out amongst themselves.


And we do need to get out of the way now, pronto.
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Soldiers numbers are irrelevant but Turkish Army is way stronger than Assad's army. Assad can only win with Russian support. But that would be a direct confrontation between a NATO member and Russia.
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Hezbollah. They already kicked Israel's ass. Turkey will be no different. Russia and Iran don't have to get directly involved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77917930


Western countries, and I'd extend this to Israel lose public opinion support for a military intervention when casualties start to happen, 100+ deaths are already a lot and can be enough to force retreat. Israel only lost about 100 soliders against Hezbollah and they stopped the military intervention.

Turkey isn't like this. Moreover Turkey has a lot of proxies to use in Syria to do dirty tactics.
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The u.s. cannot fix the m.e.

"Old europe," as rumsfeld called them, told the u.s. not to go in there.

All the u.s. did was make things worse for everyone.
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kkerdo
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


And your trump
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Dude, we are not the aggressor.


Get a grip.
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Maybe Trump is letting Syria and Russia do the dirty work and get rid of Turkey.
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Well, I'm gonna give him credit and think he knew that they would sort it out amongst themselves.


And we do need to get out of the way now, pronto.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Yep.
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Soldiers numbers are irrelevant but Turkish Army is way stronger than Assad's army. Assad can only win with Russian support. But that would be a direct confrontation between a NATO member and Russia.
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A NATO member that fired on US troops the other day, that bought the s400 anti-aircraft system from Russia and offered to help them develop the s500.
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ELINT News Retweeted Ali Coşkun

#UPDATE: Video reportedly showing Turkish Armed Forces convoy (mainly consisting of tanks and armoured vehicles) now moving towards Manbij amid reports of an SDF-SAA/Russia deal

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Turkey ranked ninth most powerful military:


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BREAKING: Large Turkish and FSA force is moving towards #Manbij city. Orders have been given to capture the city after #YPG/#PKK made a deal with Assad to hand over the city to Assads forces. #Turkey #Syria





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