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BREAKING: Turkey bombs journo convoy - shit is getting out of control... Confirmed by French journos pg. 2

 
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Remember folks every war that has ever been fought was begun based on a lie and ended based on a lie. take for example..

The Gulf of Tonkin incident, also known as the USS Maddox incident, was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War.
A staged false flag event.

Wars and rumors of war
Matthew 24
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


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"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!
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Thank you Barack O'baal-ma.

Satan is laughing with delight, and not even Trump can break that Satan's spell.


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The US Has Bombed at Least Eight Wedding Parties Since 2001

But now you care?
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Damn good point but ALL of this deep state petro-dollar war shit in the Middle East must end!!!
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Lindsey Hilsum @lindseyhilsum

We joined a mixed military/civilian convoy heading towards Ras al Ayn. We did not go all the way. As they entered the front line town a Turkish airstrike hit. I don’t know how many of these people survived.

10:12 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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Babak Taghvaee @BabakTaghvaee

#BREAKING: According to #Rojava & #SDF which I received this video from,#Turkish Air Force fighter jets bombed a convoy of journalists & their #SDF bodyguards near Ras al-Ayn. #Turkey is scared of foreign journalists who cover the atrocities committed during #OperationPeaceSpring

8:44 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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So the OP finds Fake News on Twitter and pretends to to be mad that Globalist Cult Journalist are being attacked.
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EU members voicing opinions:

Geert Wilders @geertwilderspvv

This must be done NOW:

- Expel Turkey from NATO
- Expel Turkish Ambassador
- Annul Trade Agreement with Turkey
- No visa for Turkish citizens anymore
- Boycot Turkish products and airlines
- Cancel Schengen Treaty and reintroduce national border control and immigration policy
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4:15 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~ William Shakespeare
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Trusted source, video 18+ in tweet:


Babak Taghvaee @BabakTaghvaee

#BREAKING: According to #Rojava & #SDF which I received this video from,#Turkish Air Force fighter jets bombed a convoy of journalists & their #SDF bodyguards near Ras al-Ayn. #Turkey is scared of foreign journalists who cover the atrocities committed during #OperationPeaceSpring

8:44 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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 Quoting: exlibris


So the OP finds Fake News on Twitter and pretends to to be mad that Globalist Cult Journalist are being attacked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66619947


F/U AC

Confirmed by French journos and you assume a great deal about me and my emotions.

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Think for yourself - it's the sane thing to do...

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“I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only make them think...” ~ Socrates

“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” ~ William Shakespeare
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EU members voicing opinions:

Geert Wilders @geertwilderspvv

This must be done NOW:

- Expel Turkey from NATO
- Expel Turkish Ambassador
- Annul Trade Agreement with Turkey
- No visa for Turkish citizens anymore
- Boycot Turkish products and airlines
- Cancel Schengen Treaty and reintroduce national border control and immigration policy
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4:15 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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WFT..i agree with him
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Turkey becoming like Russia now. Bombing hospitals, journalists, and civilian convoys is their thingy.
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Uh hello that is how you win wars lil tip this is why America never wins wars anymore read your bible it says in war you kill everything animals too
 Quoting: Q33


Thats why no real god is the inspiration for the old testament.
It is the work of the devil concealed in gods robes.

What god commands corrupt men to destroys its creation, including innocents?

Only a devil god.
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your god... its everywhere in history. management has its difficult decisions at times.
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UNCONFIRMED



Breaking News @AlertChannel

#Breaking: #Syria has just declared war on #Turkey!

12:23 PM · Oct 13, 2019

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Wall of text - worth a read:



Here is what really is going on:

The Turkish push into northeastern Syria started with the aim of conquering three border towns, Ras al-Ayn, Tel Abyad and Ain al Issa, held by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). By Saturday, Oct. 12, Day 4, that triple object proved beyond the Turkish army’s strength without bringing in substantial foot and armored reinforcements and incurring many casualties, say DEBKAfile’s military sources. Turkey therefore decided to start with two targets, grabbing the outskirts of Ras al-Ayn and sections of the key M4 highway near Ain al Issa. (On Saturday afternoon, Turkish sources claimed that the town had fallen.) If Ras al-Ayn was really in their hands, which other sources deny, Turkish troops would be able to surround and overwhelm the SDF force defending the town of Kobani.
To prevent this happening, the US last week sent a small Marine force to take up position in the northeast town of Kobani and on the hill overlooking the M4. On Friday, this force came under Turkish artillery fire, which caused no harm. Turkey claimed it was “a mistake,” which is hard to believe since the Turkish officers have detailed maps of the locations of US forces in the region. At all events, by Saturday, M4 had not been captured by the Turks.
The tactic employed by the Turkish high command, given the small number of troops provided for Recep Edrogan’s Peace Spring Operation, is to aim for an important local victory in one sector, before moving on. The SDF have, in contrast, opened up five separate fronts on the Syrian-Turkish border and were shelling Turkish border villages and towns. There have been scores of casualties on both sides, and tens of thousands of refugees fleeing affected locations, but none of the various figures published are credible.
The Turkish-Kurdish contest has so far refrained from more than exploratory skirmishes, say DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources. The coming days will reveal whether it is likely to develop into a long-term confrontation. Some 140,000 well-armed SDF Kurdish fighters are dug in along a 300km front east of the River Euphrates. They have set up a defense line which is heavily fortified and barricaded, studded with anti-tank traps and supplied with plentiful ammo stores.
The Turkish force in Syria are present is too small to tackle this Kurdish force. To raise an army equal to the task of smashing the Kurds, Turkey would need a large-scale military call-up, and even then, might be short of manpower for the task. The Turks are further constrained by the refusal of both the US and Russia to allow their air force to operate in northern Syrian air space, thereby hobbling their ability to advance very far across the Euphrates.
Erdogan’s operation has been severely limited by Washington and Moscow to establishing a 200km-long, 30km-deep, safe zone along a section of the Syrian-Turkish border, from which most SDF forces were withdrawn last September. This was agreed in a phone conversation President Donald Trump held with Erdogan last Saturday, Oct. 5.
But the Turkish president has a more ambitious plan. He wants to make it impossible for Syria’s Kurds to establish an autonomous state. That objective is still way out of Ankara’s reach. Even its initial foray is hedged around by restrictions and deadlines. Turkey’s generals have no more than four or five days to achieve their first objective, before US lawmakers endorse sanctions against Erdogan, his generals and the Turkish economy. Pressure is ramping up on President Trump, including from his own Republican Party, to stop the Turkish operation in Syria.
Another date looming is Nov. 13, when Trump and Erdogan have scheduled a meeting.
In the coming weeks, too, the process may be kicked off for Syrian President Bashar Assad and SDF leaders to conclude a military pact that opens the door for Syrian military forces to enter Kurdish territory. Initial contacts to prepare these negotiations are underway. President Vladimir Putin is all in favor of any steps that restore the Assad regime’s authority to all parts of country.
These and other events yet to come take some of the steam out of the Turkish ruler’s belligerent threats and the Kurds’ cries of an imminent slaughter, (which also serve Binyamin Netanyahu’s rivals as campaign fodder for drawing a straight line from Donald Trump’s putative desertion of the Syrian Kurds and Israel’s low expectations from his friend in the White House).
As matters stand now, there are no signs of an imminent Kurdish collapse in the early stages of the Turkish thrust into northeast Syria. They are well prepared for war with the Turkish army and, armed with good stocks of US-supplied weapons, are pursuing the correct tactics for meeting the current threat.
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Old testament believers cannot be civilized as they are always in invasion mode.
Truce isnt peace its the calm before the storm they desire
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Turkey becoming like Russia now. Bombing hospitals, journalists, and civilian convoys is their thingy.
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Yeah, they have a history of ethnic cleansing which they are good at....
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And, another bad actor...

NC-ud0ntsay

Nope, acting doesn't get much worse than that of Nicholas Cage.
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Are Turkey and Syria going to target fake NGOs and other rogue CIA assets?
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Turkey becoming like Russia now. Bombing hospitals, journalists, and civilian convoys is their thingy.
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Uh hello that is how you win wars lil tip this is why America never wins wars anymore read your bible it says in war you kill everything animals too
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I'm pretty sure we've won plenty of wars without deliberately targeting civilian infrastructure. We now have smart bombs that are able to precisely hit enemy targets and avoid collateral damage.
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Name ONE war won without knowingly bombing civilians, even structures that ONLY had civilians. Just one.
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SWIFT NUCLEAR DEATH TO TURKEY COMING SOON!
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but all of TV personalities were crying when the terrorist arms dealer Kashogi got 86'd in Saudi.

now not a peep when Obama's buddy Ergodan blows several journalists to bits?

should be clear now to even those who's heads were up their ass, that Syria is not the Enemy, but Turkey IS.

expect another fake gas attack soon, or something bigger to really grab attention of the sheep on the sidelines.
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Dat vid lmao

Stop posting bullshit.
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but all of TV personalities were crying when the terrorist arms dealer Kashogi got 86'd in Saudi.

now not a peep when Obama's buddy Ergodan blows several journalists to bits?

should be clear now to even those who's heads were up their ass, that Syria is not the Enemy, but Turkey IS.

expect another fake gas attack soon, or something bigger to really grab attention of the sheep on the sidelines.
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B... B... B... But they are members of the United Nations
Make America Strong Again
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but all of TV personalities were crying when the terrorist arms dealer Kashogi got 86'd in Saudi.

now not a peep when Obama's buddy Ergodan blows several journalists to bits?

should be clear now to even those who's heads were up their ass, that Syria is not the Enemy, but Turkey IS.

expect another fake gas attack soon, or something bigger to really grab attention of the sheep on the sidelines.
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What you going on about? This bombing literally just happened.
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Maybe we should send in Hillary Clinton, Chris Wallace, Lindsey Graham, John Kerry, Mitt Romney, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, et. al. to take them out. Throw in Joe Biden and son, and that phaggit John Brennan too.

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but all of TV personalities were crying when the terrorist arms dealer Kashogi got 86'd in Saudi.

now not a peep when Obama's buddy Ergodan blows several journalists to bits?

should be clear now to even those who's heads were up their ass, that Syria is not the Enemy, but Turkey IS.

expect another fake gas attack soon, or something bigger to really grab attention of the sheep on the sidelines.
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What you going on about? This bombing literally just happened.
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LITERALLY A LEAF, LITERALLY
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Turkey becoming like Russia now. Bombing hospitals, journalists, and civilian convoys is their thingy.
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Actually twathead, THAT has been the style of the USA, NOT Russia.

Seems like the paid trolls are out early today.

Take your treefiddy and fuck off.
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but all of TV personalities were crying when the terrorist arms dealer Kashogi got 86'd in Saudi.

now not a peep when Obama's buddy Ergodan blows several journalists to bits?

should be clear now to even those who's heads were up their ass, that Syria is not the Enemy, but Turkey IS.

expect another fake gas attack soon, or something bigger to really grab attention of the sheep on the sidelines.
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What you going on about? This bombing literally just happened.
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LITERALLY A LEAF, LITERALLY
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correct
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Trusted source, video 18+ in tweet:


Babak Taghvaee @BabakTaghvaee

#BREAKING: According to #Rojava & #SDF which I received this video from,#Turkish Air Force fighter jets bombed a convoy of journalists & their #SDF bodyguards near Ras al-Ayn. #Turkey is scared of foreign journalists who cover the atrocities committed during #OperationPeaceSpring

8:44 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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"Trusted source" my ass.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.
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Wall of text - worth a read:



Here is what really is going on:

The Turkish push into northeastern Syria started with the aim of conquering three border towns, Ras al-Ayn, Tel Abyad and Ain al Issa, held by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). By Saturday, Oct. 12, Day 4, that triple object proved beyond the Turkish army’s strength without bringing in substantial foot and armored reinforcements and incurring many casualties, say DEBKAfile’s military sources. Turkey therefore decided to start with two targets, grabbing the outskirts of Ras al-Ayn and sections of the key M4 highway near Ain al Issa. (On Saturday afternoon, Turkish sources claimed that the town had fallen.) If Ras al-Ayn was really in their hands, which other sources deny, Turkish troops would be able to surround and overwhelm the SDF force defending the town of Kobani.
To prevent this happening, the US last week sent a small Marine force to take up position in the northeast town of Kobani and on the hill overlooking the M4. On Friday, this force came under Turkish artillery fire, which caused no harm. Turkey claimed it was “a mistake,” which is hard to believe since the Turkish officers have detailed maps of the locations of US forces in the region. At all events, by Saturday, M4 had not been captured by the Turks.
The tactic employed by the Turkish high command, given the small number of troops provided for Recep Edrogan’s Peace Spring Operation, is to aim for an important local victory in one sector, before moving on. The SDF have, in contrast, opened up five separate fronts on the Syrian-Turkish border and were shelling Turkish border villages and towns. There have been scores of casualties on both sides, and tens of thousands of refugees fleeing affected locations, but none of the various figures published are credible.
The Turkish-Kurdish contest has so far refrained from more than exploratory skirmishes, say DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources. The coming days will reveal whether it is likely to develop into a long-term confrontation. Some 140,000 well-armed SDF Kurdish fighters are dug in along a 300km front east of the River Euphrates. They have set up a defense line which is heavily fortified and barricaded, studded with anti-tank traps and supplied with plentiful ammo stores.
The Turkish force in Syria are present is too small to tackle this Kurdish force. To raise an army equal to the task of smashing the Kurds, Turkey would need a large-scale military call-up, and even then, might be short of manpower for the task. The Turks are further constrained by the refusal of both the US and Russia to allow their air force to operate in northern Syrian air space, thereby hobbling their ability to advance very far across the Euphrates.
Erdogan’s operation has been severely limited by Washington and Moscow to establishing a 200km-long, 30km-deep, safe zone along a section of the Syrian-Turkish border, from which most SDF forces were withdrawn last September. This was agreed in a phone conversation President Donald Trump held with Erdogan last Saturday, Oct. 5.
But the Turkish president has a more ambitious plan. He wants to make it impossible for Syria’s Kurds to establish an autonomous state. That objective is still way out of Ankara’s reach. Even its initial foray is hedged around by restrictions and deadlines. Turkey’s generals have no more than four or five days to achieve their first objective, before US lawmakers endorse sanctions against Erdogan, his generals and the Turkish economy. Pressure is ramping up on President Trump, including from his own Republican Party, to stop the Turkish operation in Syria.
Another date looming is Nov. 13, when Trump and Erdogan have scheduled a meeting.
In the coming weeks, too, the process may be kicked off for Syrian President Bashar Assad and SDF leaders to conclude a military pact that opens the door for Syrian military forces to enter Kurdish territory. Initial contacts to prepare these negotiations are underway. President Vladimir Putin is all in favor of any steps that restore the Assad regime’s authority to all parts of country.
These and other events yet to come take some of the steam out of the Turkish ruler’s belligerent threats and the Kurds’ cries of an imminent slaughter, (which also serve Binyamin Netanyahu’s rivals as campaign fodder for drawing a straight line from Donald Trump’s putative desertion of the Syrian Kurds and Israel’s low expectations from his friend in the White House).
As matters stand now, there are no signs of an imminent Kurdish collapse in the early stages of the Turkish thrust into northeast Syria. They are well prepared for war with the Turkish army and, armed with good stocks of US-supplied weapons, are pursuing the correct tactics for meeting the current threat.
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Trusted source, video 18+ in tweet:


Babak Taghvaee @BabakTaghvaee

#BREAKING: According to #Rojava & #SDF which I received this video from,#Turkish Air Force fighter jets bombed a convoy of journalists & their #SDF bodyguards near Ras al-Ayn. #Turkey is scared of foreign journalists who cover the atrocities committed during #OperationPeaceSpring

8:44 AM · Oct 13, 2019

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They were not civilians as this photo proves

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Wall of text - worth a read:



Here is what really is going on:

The Turkish push into northeastern Syria started with the aim of conquering three border towns, Ras al-Ayn, Tel Abyad and Ain al Issa, held by the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF). By Saturday, Oct. 12, Day 4, that triple object proved beyond the Turkish army’s strength without bringing in substantial foot and armored reinforcements and incurring many casualties, say DEBKAfile’s military sources. Turkey therefore decided to start with two targets, grabbing the outskirts of Ras al-Ayn and sections of the key M4 highway near Ain al Issa. (On Saturday afternoon, Turkish sources claimed that the town had fallen.) If Ras al-Ayn was really in their hands, which other sources deny, Turkish troops would be able to surround and overwhelm the SDF force defending the town of Kobani.
To prevent this happening, the US last week sent a small Marine force to take up position in the northeast town of Kobani and on the hill overlooking the M4. On Friday, this force came under Turkish artillery fire, which caused no harm. Turkey claimed it was “a mistake,” which is hard to believe since the Turkish officers have detailed maps of the locations of US forces in the region. At all events, by Saturday, M4 had not been captured by the Turks.
The tactic employed by the Turkish high command, given the small number of troops provided for Recep Edrogan’s Peace Spring Operation, is to aim for an important local victory in one sector, before moving on. The SDF have, in contrast, opened up five separate fronts on the Syrian-Turkish border and were shelling Turkish border villages and towns. There have been scores of casualties on both sides, and tens of thousands of refugees fleeing affected locations, but none of the various figures published are credible.
The Turkish-Kurdish contest has so far refrained from more than exploratory skirmishes, say DEBKAfile’s military and intelligence sources. The coming days will reveal whether it is likely to develop into a long-term confrontation. Some 140,000 well-armed SDF Kurdish fighters are dug in along a 300km front east of the River Euphrates. They have set up a defense line which is heavily fortified and barricaded, studded with anti-tank traps and supplied with plentiful ammo stores.
The Turkish force in Syria are present is too small to tackle this Kurdish force. To raise an army equal to the task of smashing the Kurds, Turkey would need a large-scale military call-up, and even then, might be short of manpower for the task. The Turks are further constrained by the refusal of both the US and Russia to allow their air force to operate in northern Syrian air space, thereby hobbling their ability to advance very far across the Euphrates.
Erdogan’s operation has been severely limited by Washington and Moscow to establishing a 200km-long, 30km-deep, safe zone along a section of the Syrian-Turkish border, from which most SDF forces were withdrawn last September. This was agreed in a phone conversation President Donald Trump held with Erdogan last Saturday, Oct. 5.
But the Turkish president has a more ambitious plan. He wants to make it impossible for Syria’s Kurds to establish an autonomous state. That objective is still way out of Ankara’s reach. Even its initial foray is hedged around by restrictions and deadlines. Turkey’s generals have no more than four or five days to achieve their first objective, before US lawmakers endorse sanctions against Erdogan, his generals and the Turkish economy. Pressure is ramping up on President Trump, including from his own Republican Party, to stop the Turkish operation in Syria.
Another date looming is Nov. 13, when Trump and Erdogan have scheduled a meeting.
In the coming weeks, too, the process may be kicked off for Syrian President Bashar Assad and SDF leaders to conclude a military pact that opens the door for Syrian military forces to enter Kurdish territory. Initial contacts to prepare these negotiations are underway. President Vladimir Putin is all in favor of any steps that restore the Assad regime’s authority to all parts of country.
These and other events yet to come take some of the steam out of the Turkish ruler’s belligerent threats and the Kurds’ cries of an imminent slaughter, (which also serve Binyamin Netanyahu’s rivals as campaign fodder for drawing a straight line from Donald Trump’s putative desertion of the Syrian Kurds and Israel’s low expectations from his friend in the White House).
As matters stand now, there are no signs of an imminent Kurdish collapse in the early stages of the Turkish thrust into northeast Syria. They are well prepared for war with the Turkish army and, armed with good stocks of US-supplied weapons, are pursuing the correct tactics for meeting the current threat.
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Just a small notion I have on re-reading this...

Methinks the Turk is on a hiding to nothing in all of this.

I just wonder as to what Sulimani, (sp) is thinking...





GLP