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BREAKING - Possible deal reached between Kurds and Assad!

 
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The Assad regime will not be welcomed back into most of these SDF-controlled areas. In the far NE Kurd areas, sure - which they've always been there - but not in the rest. Kurds are in big trouble any way you slice it...
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Half of the SDF controlled area is Arabic including Qamishli and Hasaka. A great many arabs over there are not very happy under SDF control, claiming they have closed down over 2000 schools among other things.
People in Hasaka are already on the streets celebrating.

Nothing is a black or white as it seems.
 Quoting: Urður


Yeah, it's very convoluted and always has been. While they all tend to submit to the most powerful, that is always a tenuous hold regardless of who the local 'power' is. The reason the Turks were able to have such a long hold over these areas with the Ottoman Empire is they knew how to govern them and include them - which basically amounted to letting them do whatever the hell they wanted to as long as they saw themselves in the 'bigger picture' - meaning, caliphate, empire, etc. Assad lacks this and the YPG-type Kurds and their Western allies have nowhere to go but to flee.
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The Assad regime will not be welcomed back into most of these SDF-controlled areas. In the far NE Kurd areas, sure - which they've always been there - but not in the rest. Kurds are in big trouble any way you slice it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078873


Half of the SDF controlled area is Arabic including Qamishli and Hasaka. A great many arabs over there are not very happy under SDF control, claiming they have closed down over 2000 schools among other things.
People in Hasaka are already on the streets celebrating.

Nothing is a black or white as it seems.

"Seeing Turkey's terrorists invading my home, Northern Syria, is painful, but for the last 8 years, I had to watch as YPG took our homes, burned our villages, closed our schools, conscripted our children and made us outsiders in a land where we lived for millennias.

As a person from Northern Syria, I avoided speaking out against YPG on Twitter because I had no energy to argue deluded leftist westerners who fell for the pictures of SDF's female soldiers and suddenly became experts on my homeland Northern Syria.

The only legitimate force in Syria is the Syrian Arab Army, and that's the only force that my people would feel safe living under, you can take your FSA Islamist terrorists, and your fetishes for SDF's female fighters and leave us alone."
 Quoting: Urður


SAA is hardly perceived as legitimate in many of these areas and if 'your people' felt safe as you claim, then there wouldn't have been an uprising against Assad to begin with. Assad's rehabilitation isn't going to happen, though that it clearly the goal of Iran, Russia, factions in US, and some within Turkey's govt.
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Initial and unconfirmed reports of a #US airstrike on advancing #Syrian Arab Army (#SAA) convoy near Raqqa, #Syria

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You see the Americans are working with the Turks....
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Ummmm.... Did you overlook that word " UNCONFIRMED " ???


Sorry to burst your bubble.

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The Assad regime will not be welcomed back into most of these SDF-controlled areas. In the far NE Kurd areas, sure - which they've always been there - but not in the rest. Kurds are in big trouble any way you slice it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078873


Half of the SDF controlled area is Arabic including Qamishli and Hasaka. A great many arabs over there are not very happy under SDF control, claiming they have closed down over 2000 schools among other things.
People in Hasaka are already on the streets celebrating.

Nothing is a black or white as it seems.

"Seeing Turkey's terrorists invading my home, Northern Syria, is painful, but for the last 8 years, I had to watch as YPG took our homes, burned our villages, closed our schools, conscripted our children and made us outsiders in a land where we lived for millennias.

As a person from Northern Syria, I avoided speaking out against YPG on Twitter because I had no energy to argue deluded leftist westerners who fell for the pictures of SDF's female soldiers and suddenly became experts on my homeland Northern Syria.

The only legitimate force in Syria is the Syrian Arab Army, and that's the only force that my people would feel safe living under, you can take your FSA Islamist terrorists, and your fetishes for SDF's female fighters and leave us alone."
 Quoting: Urður


SAA is hardly perceived as legitimate in many of these areas and if 'your people' felt safe as you claim, then there wouldn't have been an uprising against Assad to begin with. Assad's rehabilitation isn't going to happen, though that it clearly the goal of Iran, Russia, factions in US, and some within Turkey's govt.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078873


It's not my people..I'm quoting an Arab living in N Syria trying to point out that things are never bkack and white, not even the Kurdish issue.

To that I will add that there are plenty of people within Syria who view Assad as legitimate.
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10/13/2019 08:59 PM
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Fuck the Kurds and the Turks, all of them put together aren't worth one American life. Time to get out of that entire shit-hole region and spend the trillion $/year on new airports and bridges.
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The Assad regime will not be welcomed back into most of these SDF-controlled areas. In the far NE Kurd areas, sure - which they've always been there - but not in the rest. Kurds are in big trouble any way you slice it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078873


Half of the SDF controlled area is Arabic including Qamishli and Hasaka. A great many arabs over there are not very happy under SDF control, claiming they have closed down over 2000 schools among other things.
People in Hasaka are already on the streets celebrating.

Nothing is a black or white as it seems.

"Seeing Turkey's terrorists invading my home, Northern Syria, is painful, but for the last 8 years, I had to watch as YPG took our homes, burned our villages, closed our schools, conscripted our children and made us outsiders in a land where we lived for millennias.

As a person from Northern Syria, I avoided speaking out against YPG on Twitter because I had no energy to argue deluded leftist westerners who fell for the pictures of SDF's female soldiers and suddenly became experts on my homeland Northern Syria.

The only legitimate force in Syria is the Syrian Arab Army, and that's the only force that my people would feel safe living under, you can take your FSA Islamist terrorists, and your fetishes for SDF's female fighters and leave us alone."
 Quoting: Urður


Thanks for the quote thumbs

I assume you found it on twitter?
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+++Breaking: Syria army has entered the Tabqa Airbase, the airbase is under control of Syrian army.

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SAA are supposed to be given both Tabqa and Raqqa tonight. Raqqa Military Council will work directly with SAA command to make sure there are no security incidents.

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The Assad regime will not be welcomed back into most of these SDF-controlled areas. In the far NE Kurd areas, sure - which they've always been there - but not in the rest. Kurds are in big trouble any way you slice it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78078873


Half of the SDF controlled area is Arabic including Qamishli and Hasaka. A great many arabs over there are not very happy under SDF control, claiming they have closed down over 2000 schools among other things.
People in Hasaka are already on the streets celebrating.

Nothing is a black or white as it seems.

"Seeing Turkey's terrorists invading my home, Northern Syria, is painful, but for the last 8 years, I had to watch as YPG took our homes, burned our villages, closed our schools, conscripted our children and made us outsiders in a land where we lived for millennias.

As a person from Northern Syria, I avoided speaking out against YPG on Twitter because I had no energy to argue deluded leftist westerners who fell for the pictures of SDF's female soldiers and suddenly became experts on my homeland Northern Syria.

The only legitimate force in Syria is the Syrian Arab Army, and that's the only force that my people would feel safe living under, you can take your FSA Islamist terrorists, and your fetishes for SDF's female fighters and leave us alone."
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Thanks for the quote thumbs

I assume you found it on twitter?
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Oh yes..where else lol

Links to the claims made by that person

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It's informative to hear both sides of the story
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10/13/2019 09:22 PM
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Maybe they substitute chicken for turkey?
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10/13/2019 09:23 PM
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Maybe they substitute chicken for turkey?
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Yes, instead of gobble gobble now its bak bak bak..
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10/13/2019 09:25 PM
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+++Syria army forces are preparing to enter Raqqa city from Ukayrishah entrace, south east of Raqqa city

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10/13/2019 09:28 PM
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Syrian army moving to face 'Turkish aggression' in country's north – state media

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And how exactly are they planning to do that without air support?
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Russia and Syria just told Turkey to stop bombing the Kurds
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There you go! And I'm sure the Turks will listen.
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Syrian army moving to face 'Turkish aggression' in country's north – state media

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And how exactly are they planning to do that without air support?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78032786


Russia and Syria just told Turkey to stop bombing the Kurds
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There you go! And I'm sure the Turks will listen.
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Manbij going to be interesting tomorrow.

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Huge convoy of Turkish backed militias are heading toward #Manbij city now in Northern #Syria. Until now it is unclear if SAA have entered Manbij or not. However, Turkish backed militias vow on their Telegram channels to push any forces in the city either it is #SDF or SAA.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Links to the claims made by that person

[link to www.amnesty.org (secure)]

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

It's informative to hear both sides of the story
 Quoting: Urður


Thanks for the links. As you say it's seldom black and white. There's always someone putting their spin on things, over there, and here in America especially.

From his twitter
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Syrian Nationalist from Hasaka, Northern Syria.

"The Syrian Arab Army will be handed over Manbij, Kobani, Tabqa, Raqqa and more after reaching a deal with the SDF, according to reports.

The people of Northern Syria have long waited for this moment."

"Just received news that the Syrian Arab Army will also be entering my home town and area and I haven't heard better news than this in years."

"People all over Northern Syria are celebrating the news of the Syrian Army entering the north in the streets right now!"

"If you're not going to have to live with the consequences of the outcome of that 3rd-world civil war which you have been obsessing over for years, try to at least to be considerate towards those who will."
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syrian arab army

arab ? isn't that redundant ? what else would they be ?
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WILL PUTIN USE HIS KUNG FU?
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Manbij going to be interesting tomorrow.

Video inside link

Huge convoy of Turkish backed militias are heading toward #Manbij city now in Northern #Syria. Until now it is unclear if SAA have entered Manbij or not. However, Turkish backed militias vow on their Telegram channels to push any forces in the city either it is #SDF or SAA.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Urður


militia vs army with embedded Russian advisers, maybe some Russian special ops taking part ?

they're going to get slaughtered
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10/13/2019 09:51 PM
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Links to the claims made by that person

[link to www.amnesty.org (secure)]

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

It's informative to hear both sides of the story
 Quoting: Urður


Thanks for the links. As you say it's seldom black and white. There's always someone putting their spin on things, over there, and here in America especially.

From his twitter
Elijah
@syriosaurus
Syrian Nationalist from Hasaka, Northern Syria.

"The Syrian Arab Army will be handed over Manbij, Kobani, Tabqa, Raqqa and more after reaching a deal with the SDF, according to reports.

The people of Northern Syria have long waited for this moment."

"Just received news that the Syrian Arab Army will also be entering my home town and area and I haven't heard better news than this in years."

"People all over Northern Syria are celebrating the news of the Syrian Army entering the north in the streets right now!"

"If you're not going to have to live with the consequences of the outcome of that 3rd-world civil war which you have been obsessing over for years, try to at least to be considerate towards those who will."
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


Yup..

We don't learn unless we listen..
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Manbij going to be interesting tomorrow.

Video inside link

Huge convoy of Turkish backed militias are heading toward #Manbij city now in Northern #Syria. Until now it is unclear if SAA have entered Manbij or not. However, Turkish backed militias vow on their Telegram channels to push any forces in the city either it is #SDF or SAA.

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Urður


militia vs army with embedded Russian advisers, maybe some Russian special ops taking part ?

they're going to get slaughtered
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77548160


That's higly likely..
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syrian arab army

arab ? isn't that redundant ? what else would they be ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77548160


The country is officially called the Syrian Arab Republic, so I assume its related to that.





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