Conspiracy Theorist Ordered To Pay $450K In Sandy Hook Defamation Case

Then I guess the answer is NO. Just as it would be with ANY OTHER PARENT, which is YET ANOTHER POINT revealing that the Sandy Hoax story is ABSURD AND UNBELIEVABLE ON ITS FACE. No rational person would believe ANY of this.

i dunno man, I try to generally stay positive about these dbags

but these people wouldn't have engaged in all this fraud and wouldn't have lied about kids being shot if they weren't assured that they were getting away with it and everything i've seen so far indicates that Donald Trump is going to honor them, people that lie about kids getting shot, he's going to honor deals done with them, and all the people that were lied to and know it, straight under the bus

corruption is idealised as a religion with these people

it's a joke but it's essentially what you have to deal with along with military types that essentially have the humanity beat out of them

Yes, I think you're absolutely right. They must have been assured there was little or no risk despite the obvious problems with this event. As to whether Trump will do anything, I tend to doubt it because I think there is a real concern at that level about the public's heads exploding from the revelation of too much truth.

What would be the public effect if it were revealed that Sandy Hook was not real? That no children died, or if they did - they weren't killed by Adam Lanza and that all these people including officials and the media are LYING?

I don't know. I believe the only healing balm is the truth and I support the truth, no matter what it is, or how bitter or how big, because it's the only thing that we can successfully build on. As the Man said, "the truth shall set ye free". Nothing else will.

I guess anyone who can truly view people as "collateral damage" probably doesn't have much humanity left.

I believe that it's more than that, with this "break away society", it's not even impersonal "collateral damage" (though I realise you may be referring to Assange), it's very personal, the "fuck you" to everyone else is very much the whole point of it

Some here may have forgotten the ties to China nwtown and Sandy Hook had; they had a 'sister city" in China, a cultural exchange program (pictures were posted on the SH website of Chinese dancers etc in Sandy Hook elementary.

Adam Lanza was studying Mandarin and learning to play some Chinese musical instrument, there was a huge corporate deal to manufacture attack helicopters for China in CT that got in to ethics trouble or something and was being threatened by legal action.

Remember the page of Chinese characters that showed up on the Newtown Bee's webpage as a little "we were here' sign? The list goes on and on but GE was a big player and they have lots of Chicom connections etc etc etc.

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You are absolutely right, and thank you for bringing that up - BRILLIANT!!!! Not only had I forgotten that, but I think none of us realized the import now. But considering the basic goal of disarming Americans, we now realize how this could ultimately benefit the RED CHINESE if they tried to do a takeover.

I think those are very important connections.

Hey....maybe Obama & company took their marching orders from RED CHINA?

Im all about a good conspiracy...but this is damn close to flat Earth stuff. I've examined the photos of supposedly the kids being alive today in comparison to their pics at time of death and I see little to no similarities.

With a prior job I used to study pics, faces, and IDs in comparisons and I can tell you without doubt these links people are showing on here of these kids being alive today....the fake cop being one of the parents or whatever, it's all false. That in itself ends the conspiracy for me..

You want a conspiracy? I'll tell you what I think is stuff like this is started to make the real conspiracy theories look like kook stuff as well. I could see higher end CIA or Homeland Security factions who work with impunity starting crap like this in attempts to discredit other REAL govt cover-ups.

Sure man, and everyone believes Epstein commited suicide with all the cameras turned off and the guards real busy. It's totally just like flat earth.

Give it up shill.

I said nothing about Epstein...but nice try.

sorry man, yeah I get it now, yeha man totally, so people try to discredit real government lies with flat earth but you don't actually do that directly, smarter crowd here hey, so you play it meta, you next leveled it bro, wow ask your boss for a raise

DJT promised that we'd learn the truth behind 9/11. He didn't mention Sandy Hook, but don't we know some of the truth already?

Regarding 9/11 little bits are still coming out, so we are zeroing in on the truth. He didn't promise this would be dramatic or easy.

1. Even if the picture is discredited, that doesn't mean the SH story is true. But that pic looks pretty convincing so ...

2. rather than just telling us your expert opinion about the picture, show us some comparison of the kids' pictures supposedly from SH and the pic of the high school students posing, and explain to us interested but not professionally qualified folks why they are not the same people.

Why is nobody DEMANDING an exhumation of the bodies????? That is where the proof will be! Such idiots.

It will take more than conspiracy theories to have the bodies exhumed.

The info can be dug up again, but what is the point. No one listened then and no one will listen now, even though the guy had a photo of himself standing beside Barrack Obama and Bill Clinton several months prior.

For those new to it, a reporter went on TV recounting how the nurse told her that she identified the shooter as the "son of a kindergarten teacher" at that school.

Anderson Cooper blew this off as an error in a rush to get out the news, citing a case where he was involved when underground miners transformed from dead to alive as an account slowly morphed as it passed from hand to hand before reaching him or his department.

To the 'woke' generation, this solved the problem. Only problem is the nurse was recounting the aunts account after DIRECTLY interviewing her. No change of hands. She went into precise detail about that kindergarten teacher.

Then the story suddenly changed. The nurse was now saying she never locked eyes with the shooter, only saw his legs from below the desk.

There were additional "son of a teacher" links in the story. Early stories reported the shooter was buzzed in because he was identified as the son of a teacher. One article published a story of how he shot up his mothers class. And a couple of the early police reports say son of a teacher.

So who was this son of a teacher? Most people think it is one of any number of teachers at that school, but the account specified 'kindergarten'. This led to two possible teachers in the entire school, one of whom (Janet Vollmer) had a son (Scott Vollmer) who worked for Michael Bloomberg, probably the single biggest anti-gun crusader in the United States.

But Bloomberg employs thousands of people. What sets this guy apart? Well, he was the organiser for special events and would have been on first name terms with his boss. He also entertained special guests, including current and former presidents, and posting a picture of himself standing beside the two aforementioned presidents on his Facebook account.

It took him a while to learn of this video, but when he did he mounted a successful campaign to get all videos purged from YouTube. Innocently, he also purged his Facebook page.

Now the link is as good as buried.

Also telling is Bloomberg never once brought up this innocent coincidence.

Thank you for posting all of this. I remember all the "son of a teacher" stuff that was buried very quickly, along with the men in the woods, etc. We just don't know what happened at Sandy Hook except the official story cannot possibly be true. It just isn't. I don't know if there were any dead kids or who they belonged to, or if there were dead kids, who killed them....but I DO KNOW the official story we have been told IS NOT TRUE. That should be the starting point of the investigation.

Here's a link to what was being discussed back in February 2013.
Thread: SANDY HOOK BLOOMBERG VOLLMER CONNECTION NUMBER 4 THIS IS A BIG ONE
I was going over it and recollecting other oddities.
That Ryan was reported arrested nearby. That he had killed his father in another town in CT. Remember that?
I personally do not believe that Adam Lanza exists. I think "Adam" is a fictitious name for a supposed younger sibling. A method as was used by "victims" as well to pretend that photos of them taken back when they were six was a younger sibling, also. There is info about Ryan but I have never definitely seen that Adam existed.

I also recall the neighbor girl "Alexa" appeared again in some other false flag event.
I recall that Dawn Hochsprung photo also popped up at the Boston Bombing news reports calling her "Donna".

I remember when Allison Wyatt was shown as a random photo taken from facebook of a child the mother rcognized as her daughter, Lily Gaubert. The "Wyatts" must have noted that photo was not their child but said nothing.

The random photo thing was particularly interesting, because they really had to have gone to some random persons Facebook account and taken a childs picture for it to have surfaced as one of the victims pictures. It wasn't a name connection, someone wasn't Googling up the victims name and saw this Facebook girls picture and thought her the victim, because neither of the two had any name likeness.

Someone just plucked a random unrelated image and then posted it as a victim picture.

Why? My theory is that they were using morphing techniques to evolve pictures of random people online into new people. Pictures like the Lily Gaubert picture would have been templates they used to mold the new person over the top. I saw some videos to this effect at the time that showed one picture (the Lily Gaubert picture) morphing into the next (the victims picture) to show how general angles and proportions are the same across pictures.

The theory is the Lily Gaubert picture made it into the pictures simply by accident of them including the source pictures for their doctorings.

Did you ever hear of Adam Lanza's next door neighbour, the Trentacosta's? The guy living next door to Adam Lanza was the director of the Newtown Savings Bank and handled early charities regarding the Sandy Hook shooting. Apparently early footage showed Adam Lanza's pool-less house as Trentacosta's house with a pool. So naturally, when they interviewed someone who claims to have been inside Nancy Lanza's house, they recounted the pool (because they were making the story up as they went along). There were also claims early police activity was concentrated at the Trentacosta's house, but I'm not sure how water tight that is.

Trentacosta also gave 1 or 2 interviews about the event where he and the interviewer fail to address the remarkable coincidence of having lived right next door to the shooter.

Also, pertaining to this case: Fetzer had experts for hire who said the death certificate he called a forgery was not a forgery, but there were enough questions about the 3 other death certificates that surfaced that would cause the 'average person' to think they may be fraudulent. As far as I know, Fetzer had to prove that the common person might deduce what he deduced. Apparently that wasn't the case for the death certificate that was used in his book which to me is a technicality, since there were others that surfaced that raised suspicions.

And the judge pretty much just said: "yeah, well, I disagree" and over-ruled the experts.

They are 'experts for hire', people who carry one sides arguments, but I found it interesting that (to my knowledge) the other side didn't provide any experts of their own to contradict what those experts were claiming. So all we have are experts saying he had genuine concerns. Presumably the other side couldn't get experts because they were saying the same thing; those death certificates raise questions. And the judge completely discarded these testimonies.

Furthermore, Fetzer and the other were denied legal representation by people who wouldn't touch their case, while Pozner had a team of I believe 3 lawyers.

The multiple versions of the death certificate:

[link to jamesfetzer.org (secure)]

Jeez! Five different death certificates for the same dead boy. For craps and giggles...

Did he come back to life as an ever deteriorating zombie boy and after each re-murder of him they had to fill out another death certificate?

Did his clones somehow get offed because they were genetically inferior to the original boy who died... uhhmm... let's throw out a number, thirty five years ago?

Were so many death certificates being made with "practice makes perfect" in mind?

Just to correct what I said here, I believe I am wrong that the experts said the first document (the one published in his book) was not a forgery. I'm going off memory here as I can't find the page with the quotes, but I believe the experts said the claims in the book were not correct. Such as different fonts, for instance, were proof of forgery. Apparently those claims outlined in the book were not correctly deduced to be evidence of forgery.

It is different from saying they also said the document wasn't a forgery. In context with the other certificates that surfaced, it may have raised questions about that version. It's just they determined the questions raised in the book were incorrect observations, and that more would be needed to deduce the original was a forgery.

Disgusting. Ad too bad.