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What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???

 
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What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I can say what it means to me, but I think it's very limited as the 3 words that say.
I think that it means to be content with what just you yourself have, and abolish that, that is not going to serve you, and only serves itself.

feedback please, I would like to know what this phrase, these 3 words mean to you...your interpretation.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
It's only confusing if you confound the language to avoid you own guilt.

Your nation is a DEBT based economy.

Jesus said you cannot serve God and Money.

Which did you choose?
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It's not a matter of which I chose because any of of that live and breathe, and especially that are here on a forum, and the internet have given up that right to say that you do not conform.
You pay a bill to be here right..well you are in debt also my friend.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
It does not apply after you murdered me into hell.

Fuck off and die.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
i guess fighting over money was a big deal back then.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
It's only confusing if you confound the language to avoid you own guilt.

Your nation is a DEBT based economy.

Jesus said you cannot serve God and Money.

Which did you choose?
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Who taught them debt in the first place?
Being sinners they are already in debt.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
Matthew 6:14-15 “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your father who is in heaven will forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your father forgive you your trespasses.

It means the same thing. Jesus had used the parable of the man (2)who was forgiven the debt he owed to his creditor man(1)then proceeded to find and beat another man (3)who owed him money. The first man (1) who forgave him (2) was so mad that he(2) had no forgiveness for the man (3) that owed him (2) that he (1) had the man (2) subsequently thrown in prison.

It’s the same idea. Some versions use trespasses. It means because God will forgive you, you should forgive also. hf

Last Edited by Fossy on 10/16/2019 06:52 PM
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
it sounds like a fake proverb written by debtors in an attempt to not be expected to Pay What they Owe.

You will absolutely not be forgiven and you will pay your debt or you will be force fed the money you love so much.
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It is one of the most important lessons we must learn.
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
it sounds like a fake proverb written by debtors in an attempt to not be expected to Pay What they Owe.

You will absolutely not be forgiven and you will pay your debt or you will be force fed the money you love so much.
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It’s the Lords prayer which Jesus taught to his apostle.
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


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- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
It is one of the most important lessons we must learn.
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I Believe So.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I can say what it means to me, but I think it's very limited as the 3 words that say.
I think that it means to be content with what just you yourself have, and abolish that, that is not going to serve you, and only serves itself.

feedback please, I would like to know what this phrase, these 3 words mean to you...your interpretation.
 Quoting: M 77401566


It means, forgive those who wronged you.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I can say what it means to me, but I think it's very limited as the 3 words that say.
I think that it means to be content with what just you yourself have, and abolish that, that is not going to serve you, and only serves itself.

feedback please, I would like to know what this phrase, these 3 words mean to you...your interpretation.
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If they stop the b*******
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It better be dropped off with no motherfucking strings attached very soon or a whole bunch of you are going to jail in another dimension in the year 1936.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
How it has been translated into English
The Greek word is a form of ὀφείλημα (3783), which according to Strong's has been translated

1) that which is owed 1a) that which is justly or legally due, a debt 2) metaph. offence, sin
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I always just tell the bill collectors to try and collect if they can. I pay cash only with no bank accounts and I have no assets in my name.
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The entire monetary system is nothing but a giant SCAM!

We are robbed with taxes, ridiculous interest rates, and its all a big scam.

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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I can say what it means to me, but I think it's very limited as the 3 words that say.
I think that it means to be content with what just you yourself have, and abolish that, that is not going to serve you, and only serves itself.

feedback please, I would like to know what this phrase, these 3 words mean to you...your interpretation.
 Quoting: M 77401566


It means, forgive those who wronged you.
 Quoting: NightWisp


No, because that is in another line.
"forgive men their trespasses".
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
How it has been translated into English
The Greek word is a form of ὀφείλημα (3783), which according to Strong's has been translated

1) that which is owed 1a) that which is justly or legally due, a debt 2) metaph. offence, sin
 Quoting: Jake


Yeah, offence is a good word. But of course it can pertain to money.
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing
- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I can say what it means to me, but I think it's very limited as the 3 words that say.
I think that it means to be content with what just you yourself have, and abolish that, that is not going to serve you, and only serves itself.

feedback please, I would like to know what this phrase, these 3 words mean to you...your interpretation.
 Quoting: M 77401566


It means, forgive those who wronged you.
 Quoting: NightWisp


No, because that is in another line.
"forgive men their trespasses".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77401566


Rather it’s another translation.

Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, As it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive them that trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, The power, and the glory, For ever and ever. Amen.

Read more at: [link to www.lords-prayer-words.com (secure)]
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing
- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
it sounds like a fake proverb written by debtors in an attempt to not be expected to Pay What they Owe.

You will absolutely not be forgiven and you will pay your debt or you will be force fed the money you love so much.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78087482


It’s the Lords prayer which Jesus taught to his apostle.
 Quoting: Fossy


Jesus owes more than anyone. He's going to pay his debt.

he may of paid his other debt, but he's run up another.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
How it has been translated into English
The Greek word is a form of ὀφείλημα (3783), which according to Strong's has been translated

1) that which is owed 1a) that which is justly or legally due, a debt 2) metaph. offence, sin
 Quoting: Jake


Yeah, offence is a good word. But of course it can pertain to money.
 Quoting: Fossy


it can mean either

However Jubilee does mean financial Debt Forgiveness

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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
its amazing that Jesus' people have fucked up on a whole different continent and will relive the past because they didn't learn from it.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
I assumed it meant to try not hold inner resentment.
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its amazing that Jesus' people have fucked up on a whole different continent and will relive the past because they didn't learn from it.
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the only ones f-cking up shit are Moloch worshiping leftists

They are also our central bankers

Last Edited by Jake on 10/16/2019 07:09 PM
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
Jesus owes a debt? All righty then “backs away slowly “.

Y’all have fun figuring it out! smile_kiss
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


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- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
Jesus owes a debt? All righty then “backs away slowly “.

Y’all have fun figuring it out! smile_kiss
 Quoting: Fossy


Jesus paid all debts when he died on the cross
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Mark Rawlins is going to be made into the first real leg lamp for his horseshit.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
Jesus owes a debt? All righty then “backs away slowly “.

Y’all have fun figuring it out! smile_kiss
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Jesus paid all debts when he died on the cross
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Don’t tell me, darlin I know it. The poster above said that. I would never, ever say that.
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


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- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
Jesus owes a debt? All righty then “backs away slowly “.

Y’all have fun figuring it out! smile_kiss
 Quoting: Fossy


Jesus paid all debts when he died on the cross
 Quoting: Jake


Don’t tell me, darlin I know it. The poster above said that. I would never, ever say that.
 Quoting: Fossy


Good, the question is to you also then.

If you believed that, why the fuck are you voluntarily participating in a DEBT based ponzi scheme called a nation?
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Are you from Egypt? Isn’t that a nation? Is there anywhere that isn’t part of some nation? I can’t go live on an uncharted island.
Blessed is she who has believed that the Lord would fulfill his promises to her!
Luke1:45


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- Aristotle.
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Re: What do the Words "Forgive Thy Debtors" mean to YOU???
its amazing that Jesus' people have fucked up on a whole different continent and will relive the past because they didn't learn from it.
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the only ones f-cking up shit are Moloch worshiping leftists

They are also our central bankers
 Quoting: Jake


that didn't make any sense. typical jesus worshipper.





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