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Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)

 
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well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
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well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
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To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
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well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


He got the 'nod and wink' he couldn't refuse.

To his credit, he took the bait AND got everything he wanted out of it.

Those US nukes are an issue.
Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
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To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
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So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


It means that Russia has been lured into the trap...
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This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
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Western hegemony had to end sometime, eh?
Some Will. Some won't. So.......
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To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


It means that Russia has been lured into the trap...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78090396


No..I'm sorry but Putin is the one calling the shots regarding Syria..
Why do you think the US/Turkey deal calls for a 5 day ceasefire?
Cuz Erdogan will be visiting Putin in Sochi in exactly 5 days.
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Si, basically, its a cease fire, pending more instructions from Putin.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
Huge win.
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It's a good thing.



 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Two weeks ago Turkey had nothing.

Last week Turkey had the Kurds and sanctions.

Today Turkey has the Kurds and no sanctions.

Yes, nicely done.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78089781


Look you friggin idiot. The Turks have been building up their military along that border for some time now. The Turks were going in and 50 US troops were not going to stop them. Trump removed our troops to keep them safe. The Turks and Kurds have been fighting forever.

Now they can have at it without risking our troops or they can behave. It's up to them.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
#BREAKING: Turkish army resumes bombardment of Serekaniye (Ras al-Ain) despite the agreed ceasefire - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
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Not a reliable source. Quite the opposite, in fact. UK funded propaganda.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
It appears Turkey got exactly what they wanted.

Edrogan heads to Russia on the 22nd ... on the 5th day of the 'deal'.

That's where the 'real deal' will be made.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


Were you born yesterday?

Russia HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INFLUENCE IN SYRIA. FOR DECADES. The only thing that has changed is NOTHING.

Nothing has changed. Quit acting like this is something new.
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This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


Western hegemony had to end sometime, eh?
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


Guess so ohyeah

Kinda surpriced it took so long. Everyone should have realized as soon as the Russian military entered Syria that this was never going to end any other way than Damascus prevailing.

When Erdogan then sided with Russia after the failed "Gulenist" coup..it was game over for the US.
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To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


Were you born yesterday?

Russia HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN INFLUENCE IN SYRIA. FOR DECADES. The only thing that has changed is NOTHING.

Nothing has changed. Quit acting like this is something new.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18966917


I know that...

They call the shots REGARDING Syria. Meaning Erdogan who is also Russia's ally will do as Putin says and he will hand over that save zone to Assad.

What is new here is that with Assad staying in power, Turkey alligning with Russia and the pro Iran shia government in Iraq, the US has lost influence in the Middle East and alot of it.

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Si, basically, its a cease fire, pending more instructions from Putin.
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Bingo
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#BREAKING: Turkish army resumes bombardment of Serekaniye (Ras al-Ain) despite the agreed ceasefire - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
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Not a reliable source. Quite the opposite, in fact. UK funded propaganda.
 Quoting: thinking...


I know..but it's been all over twitter from alot of sources. Seems to be calm for the past few hours so perhaps the ceasefire is in place.
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well, he knew everyone was going to tell him to stop it.
so why did he do it in the first place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044


To neutralize the YPG..this will all end with SAA taking over the Syrian/Turkish border and the reunification of Syria proper under Damascus.
 Quoting: Urður


So now Turkey will take out Syria, or else the age-old conflict between Turkey and Syria's backer Russia will flare up ... but we won't be there!

And I wish them all the best, but as for us, I am glad we're 7000 miles away. If we had to fight Mexico we wouldn't want them coming over, so it's better for us to pick our battles.
 Quoting: oniongrass


Russia will broker a deal between Turkey and Assad where Erdogan will "gracefully" withdraw his army by handing over the save zone to Assad.

This is the beginning of a TOTAL Russian victory in Syria. This also means...Russia has won the power play over influence in the Middle East.
 Quoting: Urður


Correct.

Team Neocon's demonic plans have ended in defeat and humiliation. That's because God was always on the side of the Christian-defending Assad.

It was shameful for me as an American to watch American troops fight hand-in-hand with the terrorist "Syrian Rebels" (an umbrella euphemism which included Al-Qaeda and Al-Nusra) and the terrorist Kurdish YPG.

We will know if Trump is the real deal if he also withdraws our troops from the biggest Tyranny in the Middle East: Saudi Arabia. If he doesn't, he is just another puppet-President.
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
#BREAKING: Turkish army resumes bombardment of Serekaniye (Ras al-Ain) despite the agreed ceasefire - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
 Quoting: Urður


Not a reliable source. Quite the opposite, in fact. UK funded propaganda.
 Quoting: thinking...


I know..but it's been all over twitter from alot of sources. Seems to be calm for the past few hours so perhaps the ceasefire is in place.
 Quoting: Urður


Syrian Observatory is UK propaganda run by one man in the UK. LOL! Some source!
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+++Serêkaniyê last updates:

-SNA terrorists are attacking SDF positions in Serêkaniyê

-SNA are reinforcing its terrorists and removed the border-walls near the village "Elok"

-Turkish occupation army is attacking Serêkaniyê hospital with airstrikes.

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+++Serêkaniyê last updates:

-SNA terrorists are attacking SDF positions in Serêkaniyê

-SNA are reinforcing its terrorists and removed the border-walls near the village "Elok"

-Turkish occupation army is attacking Serêkaniyê hospital with airstrikes.

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The #Turkish army is shelling multiple towns in northern Hasakah countryside despite the ceasefire including Lazqa, Marikiz, Bab al-Kher and Qabr Sheikh Hussein in the surroundings of Ras al-Ayn.

#Syria

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Ras al Ain is under constant fire from TFSA / Tr. The situation does not calm down.
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News‏ @eha_news · 12m12 minutes ago


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#Turkish Defence Ministry releases a statement regarding Akar's phone call with US Esper

▪️ We are closely monitoring the completion of the following activities within 120 hours
-Withdrawal of the PKK / YPG from the Safe Zone
-Collection of their heavy weapons
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Re: Erdogan and Pence reach a deal to suspend Turkish incursion in N. Syria for 120 hours (Update:Kurds accept but Syria Rejects Deal)
It will appear messy at first...
the deep state will try to antagonize each side, while the msm here in the US pushes a negative narrative.

see how strong the msm is? half the population wants war!! crazy.
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It will appear messy at first...
the deep state will try to antagonize each side, while the msm here in the US pushes a negative narrative.

see how strong the msm is? half the population wants war!! crazy.
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I actually hope this works out, but I know it is maybe unlikely.

And the Syrian government is not on board at all -- at least yet. Maybe Putin will have more luck with them.
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President al-Assad to al-Fayyad : Erdogan’s regime aggression on our country is blatant invasion to which Syria will respond

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Not sure even old Vlad is going to get Assad to accept a Turkish foothold in Syria.





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