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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17924229 United States 10/18/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thread: "Before the Law", excerpt from "The Trial" published in 1925, by Franz Kafka Quoting: WGON WGON Offer Upgrade Your Eye In The Sky User ID: 66172453 United States 08/28/2018 02:04 PM "Before the Law" (excerpt from "The Trial" published in 1925, less than 50%) by Franz Kafka Translation by Ian Johnston Before the law sits a gatekeeper. To this gatekeeper comes a man from the country who asks to gain entry into the law. But the gatekeeper says that he cannot grant him entry at the moment. The man thinks about it and then asks if he will be allowed to come in later on. “It is possible,” says the gatekeeper, “but not now.” At the moment the gate to the law stands open, as always, and the gatekeeper walks to the side, so the man bends over in order to see through the gate into the inside. When the gatekeeper notices that, he laughs and says: “If it tempts you so much, try it in spite of my prohibition. But take note: I am powerful. And I am only the most lowly gatekeeper. But from room to room stand gatekeepers, each more powerful than the other. I can’t endure even one glimpse of the third.” Quoting: kafka-onlineThe man from the country has not expected such difficulties: the law should always be accessible for everyone, he thinks, but as he now looks more closely at the gatekeeper in his fur coat, at his large pointed nose and his long, thin, black Tartar’s beard, he decides that it would be better to wait until he gets permission to go inside. The gatekeeper gives him a stool and allows him to sit down at the side in front of the gate. There he sits for days and years. He makes many attempts to be let in, and he wears the gatekeeper out with his requests. The gatekeeper often interrogates him briefly, questioning him about his homeland and many other things, but they are indifferent questions, the kind great men put, and at the end he always tells him once more that he cannot let him inside yet. The man, who has equipped himself with many things for his journey, spends everything, no matter how valuable, to win over the gatekeeper. The latter takes it all but, as he does so, says, “I am taking this only so that you do not think you have failed to do anything.” During the many years the man observes the gatekeeper almost continuously. He forgets the other gatekeepers, and this one seems to him the only obstacle for entry into the law. He curses the unlucky circumstance, in the first years thoughtlessly and out loud, later, as he grows old, he still mumbles to himself. He becomes childish and, since in the long years studying the gatekeeper he has come to know the fleas in his fur collar, he even asks the fleas to help him persuade the gatekeeper. Finally his eyesight grows weak, and he does not know whether things are really darker around him or whether his eyes are merely deceiving him. But he recognizes now in the darkness an illumination which breaks inextinguishably out of the gateway to the law. Now he no longer has much time to live. Before his death he gathers in his head all his experiences of the entire time up into one question which he has not yet put to the gatekeeper. He waves to him, since he can no longer lift up his stiffening body. The gatekeeper has to bend way down to him, for the great difference has changed things to the disadvantage of the man. “What do you still want to know, then?” asks the gatekeeper. “You are insatiable.” “Everyone strives after the law,” says the man, “so how is that in these many years no one except me has requested entry?” The gatekeeper sees that the man is already dying and, in order to reach his diminishing sense of hearing, he shouts at him, “Here no one else can gain entry, since this entrance was assigned only to you. I’m going now to close it. [link to www.kafka-online.info] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 10/18/2019 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exactly, and all politicians, are lawyers. See how it works? Well, not all of them, but we would probably get rid of most of the really bad ones. Trial lawyers association, I'm looking at you! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78055155 United States 10/18/2019 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can a society that has a legal code 17,000 pages long reasonably expect the average citizen to be able to conform to the law? Quoting: Builder of the Adytum Such a legal code makes criminals of us all. It makes people lose all respect for "law", when only a handful of experts even understand one small part of the legal field. My sister is a labor lawyer. She would be completely out of her depths in a criminal courtroom, of course. My mother, a criminal lawyer and former judge would be equally lost looking at a business contract. 17,000 pages of law and have we become more law-abiding as that legal code has grown or LESS LAW -ABIDING? Since 1900, the homicide rate in America has grown steadily, for instance from 1.2 per 100,000 to about 5 per 100,000 today. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Meanwhile... Quote: Number and growth of criminal laws There are conflicting opinions on the number of federal crimes,[78][79] but many have argued that there has been explosive growth and it has become overwhelming.[80][81][82] In 1982, the U.S. Justice Department could not come up with a number, but estimated 3,000 crimes in the United States Code.[78][79][83] In 1998, the American Bar Association (ABA) said that it was likely much higher than 3,000, but didn't give a specific estimate.[78][79] In 2008, the Heritage Foundation published a report that put the number at a minimum of 4,450.[79] When staff for a task force of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee asked the Congressional Research Service (CRS) to update its 2008 calculation of criminal offenses in the United States Code in 2013, the CRS responded that they lack the manpower and resources to accomplish the task.[84] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] SMH Lawyers are corrupt con men. They exist to cover for other lawyer con men and politicians. NEVER vote for a lawyer. Or trust one. Thread: Seems OBVIOUS. The DOJ is the agency that is providing cover for criminal Democrats. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 10/18/2019 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can a society that has a legal code 17,000 pages long reasonably expect the average citizen to be able to conform to the law? Quoting: Builder of the Adytum Such a legal code makes criminals of us all. It makes people lose all respect for "law", when only a handful of experts even understand one small part of the legal field. My sister is a labor lawyer. She would be completely out of her depths in a criminal courtroom, of course. My mother, a criminal lawyer and former judge would be equally lost looking at a business contract. 17,000 pages of law and have we become more law-abiding as that legal code has grown or LESS LAW -ABIDING? Since 1900, the homicide rate in America has grown steadily, for instance from 1.2 per 100,000 to about 5 per 100,000 today. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Meanwhile... Quote: Number and growth of criminal laws There are conflicting opinions on the number of federal crimes,[78][79] but many have argued that there has been explosive growth and it has become overwhelming.[80][81][82] In 1982, the U.S. Justice Department could not come up with a number, but estimated 3,000 crimes in the United States Code.[78][79][83] In 1998, the American Bar Association (ABA) said that it was likely much higher than 3,000, but didn't give a specific estimate.[78][79] In 2008, the Heritage Foundation published a report that put the number at a minimum of 4,450.[79] When staff for a task force of the U.S. House Judiciary Committee asked the Congressional Research Service (CRS) to update its 2008 calculation of criminal offenses in the United States Code in 2013, the CRS responded that they lack the manpower and resources to accomplish the task.[84] [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] SMH Lawyers are corrupt con men. They exist to cover for other lawyer con men and politicians. NEVER vote for a lawyer. Or trust one. Thread: Seems OBVIOUS. The DOJ is the agency that is providing cover for criminal Democrats. Never vote for one. Agree whole-heartedly. |
SyncAsFunk User ID: 78093094 United States 10/18/2019 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” ~ Aristotle, Selected Writings From The Nicomachean Ethics And Politics “Let us put it generally: if a regime is immoral, its subjects are free from all obligations to it.” ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago Last Edited by SyncAsFunk on 10/18/2019 07:09 PM Some Will. Some won't. So....... |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 77095110 United States 10/18/2019 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” Quoting: SyncAsFunk ~ Aristotle, Selected Writings From The Nicomachean Ethics And Politics “Let us put it generally: if a regime is immoral, its subjects are free from all obligations to it.” ~ Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago |