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Only idiots quit good habits.
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I dont really do drugs but was thinking of starting

Should i star with the light stuff or go straight to H or C

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Only idiots quit good habits.
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It's only a 'good habit' until it's not.
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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
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I dont really do drugs but was thinking of starting
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Whatever you do, stay away from Benzodiapines and Opioids.
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I dont really do drugs but was thinking of starting
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Whatever you do, stay away from Benzodiapines and Opioids.
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I'm joking my wife is a pharmacist and an expert at

singling out abusers.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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I dont really do drugs but was thinking of starting
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Whatever you do, stay away from Benzodiapines and Opioids.
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I'm joking my wife is a pharmacist and an expert at

singling out abusers.
 Quoting: Jake


There's really no such thing as an 'expert' at pharmocology, because of the odd behavior of the combined atoms at the molecular level on the human biological system.
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I have been taking muscle relaxers recreationally.
Thoughts / opinions? I have already overdosed once, back on the horse...
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I dont really do drugs but was thinking of starting
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Whatever you do, stay away from Benzodiapines and Opioids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


I'm joking my wife is a pharmacist and an expert at

singling out abusers.
 Quoting: Jake


There's really no such thing as an 'expert' at pharmocology, because of the odd behavior of the combined atoms at the molecular level on the human biological system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619

yeah, you have never met my wife, she can spot

them from 100 yards away, and has been given awards

for her abilities
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
 Quoting: Jake


Like I stated to the other individual, I have to know something about the substance in question, or at least its core.

Benzodiapines for example, are much different, and much harder than getting off Opioids or any other drug. Will power alone do nothing when your GABA system isn't producing anymore.
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Whatever you do, stay away from Benzodiapines and Opioids.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


I'm joking my wife is a pharmacist and an expert at

singling out abusers.
 Quoting: Jake


There's really no such thing as an 'expert' at pharmocology, because of the odd behavior of the combined atoms at the molecular level on the human biological system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619

yeah, you have never met my wife, she can spot

them from 100 yards away, and has been given awards

for her abilities
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If such experts existed, Stephen Paddock, a Benzo addict with at least 3 years of taper ahead of him, would have been spotted, and flagged.
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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
 Quoting: Jake


Like I stated to the other individual, I have to know something about the substance in question, or at least its core.

Benzodiapines for example, are much different, and much harder than getting off Opioids or any other drug. Will power alone do nothing when your GABA system isn't producing anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


yes they are bad stuff, not to mention the new studies

about benzos and Alzheimer's after just 1 week of use.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
 Quoting: Jake


Like I stated to the other individual, I have to know something about the substance in question, or at least its core.

Benzodiazepines for example, are much different, and much harder than getting off Opioids or any other drug. Will power alone do nothing when your GABA system isn't producing anymore.
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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


Well he holds the plastic collection bag up to...Mr Bull and he leaves a deposit in it.
I think I'm addicted....My roommates are wondering why we never buy any milk.
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I'm joking my wife is a pharmacist and an expert at

singling out abusers.
 Quoting: Jake


There's really no such thing as an 'expert' at pharmocology, because of the odd behavior of the combined atoms at the molecular level on the human biological system.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619

yeah, you have never met my wife, she can spot

them from 100 yards away, and has been given awards

for her abilities
 Quoting: Jake


If such experts existed, Stephen Paddock, a Benzo addict with at least 3 years of taper ahead of him, would have been spotted, and flagged.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


oh they exist they are just not used other than at

a pharmacy, My wife can have 30 people in line and tell

which ones are addicts and which ones arent.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
 Quoting: Jake


Like I stated to the other individual, I have to know something about the substance in question, or at least its core.

Benzodiapines for example, are much different, and much harder than getting off Opioids or any other drug. Will power alone do nothing when your GABA system isn't producing anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


yes they are bad stuff, not to mention the new studies

about benzos and Alzheimer's after just 1 week of use.
 Quoting: Jake


A strong Benzo like Xanax, Klonopin, or Ativan, only takes 2-4 weeks to get completely physically dependent/addicted to, without the user even knowing it until they attempt to quit.

Small dosages of Valium can be quit cold turkey relatively easily.Valium is also used to Taper individuals off Xanax and Klonopin, which isn't just a week or months process, but in many cases, a multiple YEAR process.
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what is your technique for abuse? pharmacological or other?
 Quoting: Jake


Like I stated to the other individual, I have to know something about the substance in question, or at least its core.

Benzodiapines for example, are much different, and much harder than getting off Opioids or any other drug. Will power alone do nothing when your GABA system isn't producing anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


yes they are bad stuff, not to mention the new studies

about benzos and Alzheimer's after just 1 week of use.
 Quoting: Jake


A strong Benzo like Xanax, Klonopin, or Ativan, only takes 2-4 weeks to get completely physically dependent/addicted to, without the user even knowing it until they attempt to quit.

Small dosages of Valium can be quit cold turkey relatively easily.Valium is also used to Taper individuals off Xanax and Klonopin, which isn't just a week or months process, but in many cases, a multiple YEAR process.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


I had to take Xanax for two weeks when I had esophagitis

It about ruined me and did nothing for the pain or anxiety but make it worse.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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do you use dietary Gaba replacement therapy for benzos?
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FYI: If you go to Jail/prison with an Opioid addiction, Marijuana addiction, or Cocaine addiction, they'll just laugh at you. If you go to Jail/Prison with a Physical dependency on Benzos, it's considered a medical Emergency now.

The reason for this is the amount of people who have died under these circumstances of being cut off cold turkey. The withdrawal of the other drugs just makes you suffer intensely, which they like, but doesn't make you die like Benzo withdrawal, which typically causes a Gran Mal Seizure in less than 3 weeks. We're talking Xanax/Klonopin strength here, not small amounts of Valium.
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my uncle told me rehab is for quitters. is he rite???

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Not really a drug...This is about my friend.
He works at one of those collection facilities and partakes in it's production.

He's not queer or anything...I'm from Texas...I mean he's from east Texas.

There are no steers at the facility.
How would he quit?
Ya, know...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


Have to know the specific substance, or at least its 'core' to give you a serious answer.

Getting off each individual drug is radically different.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


Well he holds the plastic collection bag up to...Mr Bull and he leaves a deposit in it.
I think I'm addicted....My roommates are wondering why we never buy any milk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


They use a lot of steroids on the bulls you see.
I think I may be running into complications.
Jake

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FYI: If you go to Jail/prison with an Opioid addiction, Marijuana addiction, or Cocaine addiction, they'll just laugh at you. If you go to Jail/Prison with a Physical dependency on Benzos, it's considered a medical Emergency now.

The reason for this is the amount of people who have died under these circumstances of being cut off cold turkey. The withdrawal of the other drugs just makes you suffer intensely, which they like, but doesn't make you die like Benzo withdrawal, which typically causes a Gran Mal Seizure in less than 3 weeks. We're talking Xanax/Klonopin strength here, not small amounts of Valium.
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We need to outlaw them... there is no need for that shit
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

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do you use dietary Gaba replacement therapy for benzos?
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There's multiple ways to do it, and that is one that may help somewhat. The foremost expert in the world, Heather Ashton, recommends starting at the equivalent dosage of Valium, and tapering very slowing from there.

One 2 mg Klonpin tab = 40 mg of Valium just to give you an idea of what's going on here.

There are people who take 2 mg of Valium per day and do just fine, and can quit relatively easily without ending up in the ER room with a tube down their throat.
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FYI: If you go to Jail/prison with an Opioid addiction, Marijuana addiction, or Cocaine addiction, they'll just laugh at you. If you go to Jail/Prison with a Physical dependency on Benzos, it's considered a medical Emergency now.

The reason for this is the amount of people who have died under these circumstances of being cut off cold turkey. The withdrawal of the other drugs just makes you suffer intensely, which they like, but doesn't make you die like Benzo withdrawal, which typically causes a Gran Mal Seizure in less than 3 weeks. We're talking Xanax/Klonopin strength here, not small amounts of Valium.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9575619


We need to outlaw them... there is no need for that shit
 Quoting: Jake


Yeah you're right. In reality, this is more dangerous than Heroin, except inversely, it kills you when you're off them, not when you take too much of them. Plausible Deniability central on the part of the prescribers.
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