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Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.

 
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Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
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CALISTOGA — PG&E is taking Calistoga vineyard owner Terry Gard to court, to seize a portion of his land for a liquid natural gas plant.

PG&E has now claimed eminent domain to forcibly secure a permanent easement of 1.4 acres on the corner of Highway 29 and Dunaweal Lane, across from Twomey Cellars......

When the government, or, in some cases, a private entity, needs access to private property, it may exercise its power of eminent domain to do so. Another way eminent domain is used is for easements where sewer lines, water lines, telephone and cable lines and electric lines.

PG&E had not responded to request for comment as of last week.
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This is very iteresting. A bit misleading in that PG&E doesn't actually seem to want to buy this land but lease it. The property owner, whose family has resided on this land since the 1800's, does not want to allow a new larger natural gas project going on the land. PG&E wants to claim eminent domain.

Wikipedia says eminent domain... is the power of a state, provincial, or national government to take private property for public use. However, this power can be legislatively delegated by the state to municipalities, government subdivisions, or even to private persons or corporations,



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The land you purchase in CAlifornistan is not owned by you. you will never own it out right. Need to pay thousands in taxes every year. Doesnt matter how long you have resided there. Quite maddening.
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
my apologies this is one of those web sites you have to pause your adblock for
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Trump supporters can't say shit about eminent domain now that they've been screaming for a wall for years.
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everything is about trump now...anyone notice that
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
they should demand free electricity to the rest of the property for eva
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
I guess I never realized a company could claim eminent domain
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
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Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


They are already testing universal basic income in Stockton California

I think the selected test group receives $580.00 a month just cause
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Wow, amazing. Setting precidence for worse things.

Domestic Terrorism is the "newspeak" for those who would dare revolt, yes?

Hmm. Looks like the FBI, Homeland Security and others are going to have to start hiring more agents soon if this keeps up. Surprised nobody has taken action against Nestlé just yet.

I say this because it seems like every time a company or the state tries to implement something in California, some knuckleheads set off forest fires or some shit instead?

I'm praying for ALL people who are on the right side of doing the right thing and in respecting one another in this land.

I also pray that the wrong people don't escalate and destroy this beautiful world by making critical mistakes due to their own ego and ulterior motives.

Remember, good people, with good intentions, often get harmed and become collateral damage in the process. Just ask the many who served in Vietnam for instance.

Pray, just pray.
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Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


What good is money if you can't own, buy, sell, or trade property?
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


What good is money if you can't own, buy, sell, or trade property?
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You could bribe politicians like PG&E does.
The San Francisco company doesn't care for laws unless thier abusing them.

Erin Brokovich 2.0, You must sell lease us your land to poison you.

Has anybody mentioned their energy monopoly?
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good good , take the slaves property !
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Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
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There is no such thing as 'Private Property Ownership' in the USA. All it buys you is the honor of only 'paying rent' (in the form of recurring taxes) to the United States Landlord, Inc., instead of an private everyday peasant landlord.
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my apologies this is one of those web sites you have to pause your adblock for
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Just hit your F9 key and put your browser into Reader View. You get all the text and not much else.
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my apologies this is one of those web sites you have to pause your adblock for
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Just hit your F9 key and put your browser into Reader View. You get all the text and not much else.
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hey thanks you just made my life better
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


What good is money if you can't own, buy, sell, or trade property?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10195274


We don't really own it now--we are just
renters until we can no longer afford the taxes.
(Except we still have to maintain it, or they take it sooner.)
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
good good , take the slaves property !
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We can safely assume that Pelosi and Schiff already have a Chinese buyer lined up.
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


What good is money if you can't own, buy, sell, or trade property?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10195274


We don't really own it now--we are just
renters until we can no longer afford the taxes.
(Except we still have to maintain it, or they take it sooner.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


we are caretakers of our masters land
fined if not cared for
taken when wanted
taxed to death
so free
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Re: Eminent Domain: PG&E wants to seize private vineyard property.
also PG&E has lasers beaming down from outer space

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Will the Left finally see the light after they witness
Agenda 21's effect on California? or will they just start
telling us that FREEDOM IS RACIST.

(They don't tell you that Universal Basic Income will come
at the cost of Private Property Ownership.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74661623


What good is money if you can't own, buy, sell, or trade property?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10195274


you can't eat money!
Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell
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everything is about trump now...anyone notice that
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He may have drank wine made from grapes grown on that particular 1.4 acres.

So yeah, it's his fault.
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Turn their own laws against them. Plant protected native plants there and make a small wildlife preserve with endangered bugs and shit there.
"Be like water my friend”- Bruce Lee
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Turn their own laws against them. Plant protected native plants there and make a small wildlife preserve with endangered bugs and shit there.
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thats awesome

ILYS-dude
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you can't eat money!
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That's another thing they don't tell you.
UBI will be necessary because there will be no jobs.
(which means no stores, restaurants, etc...)
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Turn their own laws against them. Plant protected native plants there and make a small wildlife preserve with endangered bugs and shit there.
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thats awesome

ILYS-dude
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5a
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Aww too bad some wealthy family going to lose their golden forever goose where they pay illegals to do the actual work

F u. Good!
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Aww too bad some wealthy family going to lose their golden forever goose where they pay illegals to do the actual work

F u. Good!
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Yea, providing jobs, paying taxes, creating a product.
what scum.

California would prefer they be homeless junkie cross-dressers.
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Aww too bad some wealthy family going to lose their golden forever goose where they pay illegals to do the actual work

F u. Good!
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Yea, providing jobs, paying taxes, creating a product.
what scum.

California would prefer they be homeless junkie cross-dressers.
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Oh please. They’re spoiled rich multi generation
You can bet they even have illegals cleaning their homes as well

They probably also have some save the dog sham scam nonprofit biz also





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