God cannot not exist

Thing is, many here in this world and dimension try to confine God to the same linear thinking in terms of time and space and so, that's where many make mistakes in their understanding about God and/or eternity.

Look at your computer screen and bring up a 3-D style video game. Then walk to the side of that monitor and play it from an 85-89 degree angle (so that it's truly looking like what it truly is) and immediately, the ILLUSION of 3D disappears and the flat, 2D experience destroys it all in an instance.

Now imagine God trying to do the same by relegating down to 3D/4D thinking when God's true existence is in a 5D (or higher) order of being?

5D is REAL TIME. Everything exists and occupies the SAME SINGULAR POINT AND LOCALE IN TIME AND SPACE... Much like our brain, thoughts and memories.

Actions we perform and commit happen in 3D/4D reality. Actions we remember or experience while the are happening, are processed in the 5D process in our brain.

Nonsense, Jesus is Lord, you art thou but dirt. Humbly ask Jesus to show himself to you and watch your life change in an amazing way forever!!

Do it, I dare you!!

Or maybe "that which makes things happen" would be better suited to be defined as "God".


Simpler.

Things happen.

You can't disprove that.

Something makes things happen, for they do indeed happen.

Something makes everything happen.



And we simply define that thing which makes everything happen... and "God".


You can't disprove a definition of something which we humans created.


It's just a definition of something.

Seems to me you got the option of believing the universe/god sprang into existence from nothing or has always existed.

Both of these options seem pretty wack and I doubt humans will ever know what really happened.

Aw, yes you need evidence. "God is what compels everything", is a claim. Conclusion without evidence is faith and therefore, irrational.
Your personal incredulity doesn't make it real. Everything you claim, must be accompanied by evidence. No evidence, no credibility.

So to summarize -


"God" is simply a definition that humans created of 'that which makes everything happen'.


You can't disprove "God", because it's just a definition of something (that is real), which humans created.


The next question could be.... Is God conscious?


Well.....


If the definition of 'that which makes everything happen' is "God"......

And we humans are part of everything.... and we are conscious......


Then God is therefore conscious, because we are conscious.... and God makes everything happen.... including us.

Its amusing how you just can't see the flaw on your twisted logic.

abrahamic religions are profane, trapping man in a dualistic Hell, literally Crucifying Spirit upon the Cross of Matter.

"God is what compels everything" is not a claim, it's a fact.


"God" is merely human definition of "what compels everything".


You can not disprove a definition.


If I define something previously undefined as "ldskfsldkf".... how can you "disprove" that????

You can't. It's just a definition!

And that is exactly what "God" is. A definition of something.

You can't disprove a definition of something.


"God" is the human definition of "that which makes everything happen".


Does everything happen? Yes.

And we define that which makes everything happen as "God".


You simply can't disprove that, because it's just a definition.

Do you understand?

Sorry to burst your bubble, but "God is what compels everything" is indeed a claim. I'm typing and no "god" compels me.

Aw, I'm quite familiar with "the god of the gaps" (flawed)argument.

The Universe is finite but 'potentially' Infinite because God is Infinite and the Universe will continue to grow forever but will never become truly Infinite - it will always be Potentially Infinite...

You are a part of the universe. As a part, you are also the whole experiencing yourself as a part. There is only one thing in the universe. Experiencing itself in every way possible by the illusion of seperation. You and I seem like different people, and we are from each of our unique perspectives. We are also however, made of the particles created when stars go supernova. So in that sense we are the same thing. Made of the same stuff. In the "beginning" (which is a nonsensical concept at the scale we are talking) the ONE couldn't experience anything. Because it was all there was. It couldn't admire itself or anything because there was nothing to compare to anything else. Just the One. So it split, and in doing that there was now "this", "that", and the space between. By splitting there was now two experiences that could each compare, admire, contrast, and criticize, admire etc. each other. They seemed like two different things, and had two different experiences, or perspectives. But they were both the original ONE. Just agreeing to have the illusion of seperation to enjoy the EXPERIENCE. To gain knowledge and perspective by having the experience of seperation, but it's just an illusion. The two split, and the four split, and it's been going on for however long it has. Be kind to your neighbor, because it IS you, you've only forgotten. You have to forget temporarily to continue to learn and expand (as the universe is, ever faster and faster). The illusion of seperation might seem like a curse or a trick, but it is the only way to have the most expansive experience and appreciate (or not) as much as is possible. I could go on, but I think that is enough to get you started. We thank you.

They aught to pin this thread as it is fairly interesting for once...

If you were also the whole, you wouldn't be posting on GLP...

You exist bound in a little world of imagination and ideas that are not even yours.
Such imagination of little wrathful, vengeful gods and scary demons frames you into a very limited field of comprehension, devoid of Self-Actualization.

xtianity is the antithesis of Self-Realization

a fact. God is the person who installed a piece of software on his machine to run this simulation.

:p

Two worth watching.

The Emergent Universe
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Science Has Found Proof of the Existence of God!
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The newest, The Emergent Universe, is seriously compelling - full of uptodate science and the world's leading physicists.

The second video is perhaps easier on the brain. You'll have to watch The Emergent Universe a couple of times to let it all sink in.

The conclusions are clear: there MUST be a extra-universal intelligence (which we can only apprehend as God).

And guess what? The science fits with biblical descriptions as far as they are articulated.

Some 68% of Nobel prize winners in the sciences disclose some sort of belief in God.

God is the consciousness of everything

Maybe the word source is better

Yes it is because the Universe can not create itself out of nothing.

It had to have had a Creator.

Predynastic Egypt called Him Heh and He gave His Name to the fifth letter of the Hebrew Alphabet.

He is pictured standing between, and holding, two Spear Leaves which represent Eternity Past and Future...

You are dating yourself. The Multi Universe died an ugly death about 30 years ago - they have now repackaged it and tried to sell it to smucks like you under the "Bubble Universe" Theory but it still gets its ass run over by the first two LAWS of Thermodynamics - the Universe can not be infinitely old or it would have burned out by now...

Plot twist - what if OP is actually the one that cannot not exist?

The Bible is not a Fairy Tale Book and Y'shua did not wear a Dog Collar.

#1 What is assembeling the first life form? ( It is violating the Law of Entropy, things go to chaos/disorder they don't self assemble )

#2 How did that first form become living? ( It is violating law of Biogenesis )

#3 A fixed set of information well not increase by distorting that information. Mutation will never increase info only decrease and weaken it.

The alternative to God is nothingness ( Blaise Pascal ) and nothingness can't create anything.

#1 - It does not. What you refer as "law of entropy" is actually the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which is measured in a closed system, which is not the case of our planet. Energy from the sun comes in ALL THE TIME.

#2 - What you refer to as "first form" is studied in another field of science called Abiogenesis(the "A" here makes all the difference).

#3 - Replicated DNA mutates, that's a very well known fact. So yes, information does change along time.

You're just vomiting the very same old pulpit ignorant arguments. Just another fanatic without a clue and desperate to confirm faith. By definition, you shouldn't make use of anything that you disagree with(including evolution), thus, no medication for you, go pray your cancer away instead.

prove it

God cannot be proven in 3D realm