Russia may sell 250 advanced Su-30 fighters to Iran

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russia wouldn't even have 250 to sell them

and so... you don't think they could build them? how it usually works is person A places order, person B fills order.

Maybe not, but Sukhoi would love to have such large orders to fill. It would keep the production lines going for years, and make them a nice little fortune. They're quite capable of making aircraft in large numbers, the Russian Air Force just hasn't been able to afford many. Meanwhile, they've been selling to countries such as India, Malaysia and Venezuela.

NEVER FORGET - Jews were responsible for 911 and 7/7

Who is going to fly them to give the IAF or the USAF any problems

like all mod aircraft, they pretty much fly themselves. the pilot is basically a little monkey these days.

bankers, actually.

No, not really true. They're complicated aircraft - not as complicated as an F-35 or F-22, but still, the pilot needs to be well trained in order to use them to their full potential. Likely the Iranians wouldn't fly them as well as the Russians do, but remember, Iran has been flying F-14's since the 70's, despite an embargo on spare parts.

that was my first thought too... do they have that many pilots?

by the way... have you ever looked at one of those armaments magazines?

all of the articles are about the various and sundry hardware which all of the nations of the world are apparently collecting...

i look at that and i think... absent a miracle, all of this arming of nations can only end in a major war...

they go on and on about indians buying this, brazilians buying that... poles stocking up on this... brits upgrading to that... yada

I know the odd thing about aircraft there beeze. :D

"November Echo Oscar, fence out, Angels one zero, weapons hot, eta to …." and so forth. Know what I sayin'? Dirty configuration has little to do with sexual positions or laundry where I hail from.

they're monkeys these days :P

and yeah, they're complicated. But the complicated bit resides in the FCC.

and if you've ever seen the way they throw this thing around you'd already know that even a non-gifted monkey could make very very effective use of one of these.

Unlikely that this is true. Probably just more zionist spam but why shouldn't Iran be able to defend itself? It is under thrat form Israel and the US.

you think then it would be easy to field pilots in triplicate so they could be on call for 3x8 hour shifts each day?

does the us navy or air force do this?... have more than one crew per aircraft?

or is it one crew per plane, and do they just fly sorties continuously, until they pass out from exhaustion?

Of course it's Jew spam. Beezle posted it.

RUSSIA AND THE IRANIAN BOMB


On Aug. 23 Frontpagemagazine.com interviewed Regnar Rasmussen, a military expert and interrogation specialist. The interview is of interest because of Rasmussen’s testimony indicating that Iran purchased nuclear warheads from the “former” Soviet Union in autumn 1992. This is a story that confirms a similar claim made by Yossef Bodansky in his book The High Cost of Peace. Bodansky says the Iranians initially intended to use their newly acquired nuclear weapons in a jihad to destroy Israel. The plan involved strategic coordination with Hezbollah, Syria and communist North Korea (which agreed to a simultaneous attack against American forces in the Far East). Tehran asked its terrorist allies “to refrain temporarily from attacking Western objectives in order not to attract attention to the Iranian-sponsored buildup until they were ready to strike out decisively.” Once the necessary forces were in place, Hezbollah was to play a unique role by setting up the pretext for a devastating assault on Israel. According to Bodansky, Hezbollah would provoke Israel into “a major escalation in Lebanon – so that the planned Syrian and Iranian ballistic-missile barrage against Israeli civilian and strategic objectives could be presented as retaliation for Israeli aggression.” Bodansky also says that a simultaneous terrorist offensive would be launched against the United States while Iranian kamikaze-style attacks would be organized against U.S. aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf.

As Bodansky explained in his book, an Iranian nuclear assault on Israel was thwarted when an Israeli helicopter gunship attacked and killed Sheikh Sayyid Abbas al-Mussawi, the secretary-general of Hezbollah (roughly coinciding with the demise of North Korea’s dictator and a subsequent transition crisis in Pyongyang). Those who doubted the veracity of Bodansky’s work must now account for the testimony of Rasmussen, who learned many things from Iranian asylum seekers, including Iranian communists who had been trained in Soviet bloc countries. “The education was genuine and serious,” said Rasmussen, “but what really made my hairs stand on one end was the immense overweight of practical training in the preparation and use of explosives. It was taught to the Iranian students even down to the minutest details that these skills were deemed necessary if their ‘revolutionary aims’ were to succeed.”

The Russians also trained Middle Eastern men at the science of engineering, not so much from the standpoint of building large structures, but from the standpoint of knocking them down at a single blow. The communist bloc had an overall plan when it initiated its massive course of instruction for Muslim youth. And it was Rasmussen’s sense of this plan that was awakened as he watched the events of 9/11 unfold five years ago. “It is very important to bear in mind that the Iranians were nothing more than a tiny minority amongst the recruits of the Soviet Union,” he explained. “My Iranians told me that they had to stick together and protect each other … against the hordes of Arabs surrounding them everywhere on campus.”

Although the majority of communists in revolutionary Iran were slated for Islamic persecution, an elite subset of communists (trained in the Soviet Union) ended up working for the Islamic regime. “I would describe this group as the most dangerous and unpredictable of them all,” noted Rasmussen. The best and toughest communist agents working in Islamic Iran were tasked with infiltrating the Islamic hierarchy and intelligence services. The purpose of this infiltration should be obvious to any student of strategy: namely, to steer a regime of fanatical psychopaths toward conflict with America. This would not prove difficult because, as Rasmussen pointed out in the Frontpagemagazine.com interview, communism and Islamic fundamentalism share a common hatred of individualism and Western values. Furthermore, in terms of Moscow’s current objectives in the fight against Islamic terrorism, the Russians retain the files of each and every foreign student ever trained in the Soviet Bloc. So why haven’t they shared these files with the United States? (The answer should be abundantly clear.)

It seems that the Russians are following the same path they followed during the Cold War. As for Moscow’s supposed war against Islamic terrorism in Chechnya, the Chechen conflict is nothing more than a KGB/GRU organized provocation. The mild and unorthodox Islam practiced by the Chechen people bears no resemblance to the more virulent forms of Islam practiced in the Middle East. Furthermore, the terrorism of the Chechen bandits has been described by former KGB/FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko as staged diversionary operation for renewing Russia’s police state under the leadership of Vladimir Putin. According to Litvinenko, Chechen terrorism was organized and directed, from the outset, by Russian special services and the Russian General Staff. Last year, in an interview with a Polish journalist, Litvinenko stated that bin Laden’s right hand man, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is a long-time KGB agent trained in Russia.

Given all of this, it should not surprise anyone that Iran may have acquired nuclear weapons from the Soviet Union. According to Rasmussen, Russia trained many Iranian physicists (a fact reported by many researchers). And Russia continues to train Iranian nuclear experts, as a matter of policy. As anyone who consults a newspaper will see, the Russians will not back down from this activity. Together with their communist Chinese allies, the Russians lend practical support to the Iranians by threatening to use their veto in the U.N. Security Council (to prevent economic sanctions against the Iranian mullahs).

How did the Iranians acquire nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union?

Rasmussen describes his involvement with sincere Soviet intellectuals who were moving toward political power after the collapse of Soviet power. The political failure of these people was due, says Rasmussen, to the “intrigues and dirty workings of the old KGB structures behind the curtain we all thought had fallen.” He further added, “Alas, no curtain ever fell. It was only moved to a position further backwards and deep into the dark shades of backstage.” Such a position is necessary if one intends to trigger a nuclear exchange between Muslim and Western countries.

It was a matter of profit and strategic convenience that the communist boss of Soviet Khazakstan, Nursultan Nazerbayev, sold three nuclear warheads to the Islamic leaders in Tehran. The price was supposedly $7.5 billion. This story has been confirmed by other sources, and has remained a closely guarded secret of the Israeli and American governments. Obviously, the Iranians could use the acquired Soviet nukes as models for making their own weapons. Furthermore, it may only be a matter of time before they initiate a nuclear war against Israel and the United States on their own timetable (in coordination with their Chinese, North Korean, Syrian and Russian allies).

A strategic sequence logically follows from the thinking of Iran’s leadership, which may be summarized by the oft-heard cry of “death to Israel, death to America.”

© 2006 Jeffrey R. Nyquist

And here comes his other Jew handle HL Shancken to pile more bullshit on the heap.

It is moving that way. But that wouldn't likely happen until everyone is flying from a box on the ground. And realistically, planes need xxx amount of hours in the hangar… so running them non-stop over 24 hour periods (we're talking high-end fighters here) in highly unadvisable.



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That will go nicely with the advanced missile and defense systems they have bought from China and Russia.

The IDF may find Iran more difficult than shooting kids throwing rocks.

Imagine what the world would like if even half the money that gets spent on death toys and war would be spent on useful stuff like schools, hospitals, roads, clean drinking water, solar power, and stuff like that instead.

Now DEBKAfile is reporting this story, with a twist.

[link to www.debka.com]

DEBKA Reports: Iran buys 250 long-distance Sukhoi fighter-bombers, 20 fuel tankers, from Russia

Tehran and the Russian Rosoboronexport arms group are about to sign a mammoth arms deal running into tens of billions of dollars for the sale to Tehran of 250 Su-30MKM warplanes and 20 IL-78 MKI fuel tankers. DEBKAfile’s military sources report Iran has stipulated delivery of the first aircraft before the end of 2007.

The transaction, Russia’s largest arms deal in 30 years, will endow Iran with a long-range aerial assault capability. The Sukhoi can sustain a four-and-a-half hour raid at its maximum range of 3,000 km against long-distance, marine and low-lying ground targets across the Persian Gulf and Middle East, including Israel and Lebanon.

The fuel tankers extends the Su-30MKM’s assault sustainability to 10 hours and its range to 8,000 km at altitudes of 11-13 km. The closest comparable plane in the West is the American F-15E fighter bomber. Iran’s acquisition of an exceptionally large fleet of the Russian fighter-bomber will elevate its air force to one of the two largest and most advanced in the region, alongside the Israeli Air Force.

Iranian air crews are already training on the new Sukhoi aircraft, ready to start flying them early next year with only a short delay after delivery. DEBKAfile’s sources report that Moscow is selling Tehran the same Sukhoi model as India received earlier this year. The Iranians leaned hard on New Delhi to let them have the Israeli avionics and electronics the Indian Air Force had installed in the Russian craft. India refused.

Russia began delivering the same craft in June to Malaysia, which also sought Israeli avionics without success. The Su-20MKM has won the nickname of “Islamic Version of Sukhoi.”

Its two-member crew shares the workload. The first pilot flies the aircraft, controls weapons and maneuvers the plane in a dogfight. The co-pilot employs BVR air-to-air and air-to-ground guided weapons in long-range engagements, sweeps the arena for enemy craft or missiles and performs as command-and-control in group missions.

Some of the plane’s systems are products of the French Thales Airborne Systems company. Moscow’s contract with Tehran for the sale of the Su-30MKM must therefore be cleared with Paris.

There is no decision in Jerusalem about asking Paris to withhold its consent to a deal which would substantially upgrade the long-range air assault capabilities of the Islamic Republic whose leaders want to wipe Israel off the map. However, President Nicolas Sarkozy is in mid-momentum of a diplomatic drive in the Arab and Muslim world and unlikely to be receptive to an Israeli approach. The only chance of aborting the Russian sale would be to route the approach through Washington.

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I've gotta be honest, the very fact that DEBKAfile is reporting this now, drops its credibility rating with me ;)

more of Iran's wealth going down the toilet

when are the Iranian people going to revolt ???

voice of sanity

You know, the sale of 20 IL-78 tankers would be almost as significant as the fighters. 20 is a huge number for such an important 'force multiplier' platform. Russia only has about 20 themselves. Just one of these tankers can refuel 3 aircraft simultaneously, allowing them much greater range and bombload.

Ever increasing raise of the ante by Russia.

Interesting.

easier to reach europe, happy to live so north that they can't reach me

Guess it's time for the US to install those defensive missile shields in Europe...

And who is responsible for your stupidity? ALLAH?