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NEW: Lt. Col. Vindman's Testimony - WH transcript of Trump's Ukraine call omitted crucial words & phrases
Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman, the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, told House impeachment investigators on Tuesday that the White House transcript of a July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president omitted crucial words and phrases, and that his attempts to include them failed.

Colonel Vindman’s account offered a hint to solving a mystery surrounding the conversation: what Mr. Trump’s aides left out of the transcript in places where ellipses indicated dropped words.

The omissions, Colonel Vindman said, included Mr. Trump’s assertion that there were recordings of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. discussing Ukraine corruption, and an explicit mention by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, of Burisma Holdings, the energy company whose board employed Mr. Biden’s son Hunter.

Colonel Vindman did not testify to a motive behind the editing process. But his testimony is likely to drive investigators to ask further questions about how officials handled the call, including changes to the transcript and the decision to put it into the White House’s most classified computer system — and whether those moves were meant to conceal the conversation’s most controversial aspects.

In hours of questioning on Tuesday by Democrats and Republicans, Colonel Vindman recounted his alarm at the July 25 call, saying he “did not think it was proper” for Mr. Trump to have asked Mr. Zelensky to investigate a political rival, and how White House officials struggled to deal with the fallout from a conversation he and others considered problematic.

His testimony about the reconstructed transcript, the aftermath of the call and a shadow foreign policy being run outside the National Security Council came as Democrats unveiled plans for a more public phase of the impeachment process.

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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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The dems are in a bit of a pickle... what will they do?

Every time they do something, it is countered and exposed with a simple thing:

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Note that the subject "transcript" was not a verbatim transcript. A footnote in the five-page momorandum says it is not verbatim, and its text contains ellipses.

The footnote to the memorandum said:

CAUTION: A Memorandum of a Telephone Conversation (TELCON) is not a verbatim transcript of a discussion. The text in this document records the notes and recollections of Situation Room Duty "Officers and-NSC policy staff assigned to listen.and memorialize the conversation in written form as the conversation takes place.

Lt. Col. testified that crucial words and phrases were omitted in the edited memorandum, and that his attempts to include them failed.

So the White House memorandum was doctored and incomplete.

Why would that be?
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Look at the last sentence of the Memorandum's footnote:

"Voice recognition software was used in preparing the “memorandum of telephone conversation,” which included long, direct quotations."

Using voice recognition software probably means that the call was recorded. There might be White House tapes. Are we witnessing a rerun of the Alexander Butterfield moment?

Butterfield was the White House staffer who revealed that Richard Nixon was secretly recording conversations. The revelation came about entirely by chance.

If that is the case with Trump's call and he is hiding a tape, it could be a rerun of Nixon too.
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
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Look at the last sentence of the Memorandum's footnote:

"Voice recognition software was used in preparing the “memorandum of telephone conversation,” which included long, direct quotations."

Using voice recognition software probably means that the call was recorded. There might be White House tapes. Are we witnessing a rerun of the Alexander Butterfield moment?

Butterfield was the White House staffer who revealed that Richard Nixon was secretly recording conversations. The revelation came about entirely by chance.

If that is the case with Trump's call and he is hiding a tape, it could be a rerun of Nixon too.
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Impeaching a president for investigating the corruption of a government official. Great plan!
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Impeaching a president for investigating the corruption of a government official. Great plan!
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Then why the coverup by omitting parts of the call in the transcript memorandum?
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Impeaching a president for investigating the corruption of a government official. Great plan!
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Then why the coverup by omitting parts of the call in the transcript memorandum?
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There is no coverup. And even if there was, it doesn't change the fact that Trump was investigating the corruption of Biden. And you're going to impeach him for that. Good luck.
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Impeaching a president for investigating the corruption of a government official. Great plan!
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Then why the coverup by omitting parts of the call in the transcript memorandum?
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There is no coverup. And even if there was, it doesn't change the fact that Trump was investigating the corruption of Biden. And you're going to impeach him for that. Good luck.
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The White House White House memorandum of that July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president was doctored to omit crucial words and phrases.

Nixon's tapes contained gaps.

Coverups.
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
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His initial statement said investigating bursura or whatever would undermine national security. Which it would because putting all the dems in jail would cause a stir. Now he says that parts were omitted about criminal investigations...about biden being under investigation. That is a totally lawful redaction but the dems are going to force it into the light in open testimony. Check mate.

They are setting it up to look like trump deleted trump stuff but it was biden stuff. Bait and switch.
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When the MSM calls out the enemy.

NYT reports that Vindman, who likely leaked secret information to the anti-Trump whistleblower, tried and failed to alter WH call records to fit his Ukraine narrative.
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76148856


His initial statement said investigating bursura or whatever would undermine national security. Which it would because putting all the dems in jail would cause a stir. Now he says that parts were omitted about criminal investigations...about biden being under investigation. That is a totally lawful redaction but the dems are going to force it into the light in open testimony. Check mate.

They are setting it up to look like trump deleted trump stuff but it was biden stuff. Bait and switch.
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Why do you suppose the White House would have edited and omitted anything from the transcript and released a doctored and incomplete memorandum?
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Nothing critical about it, he is a low level clerk

of which there are over 4ooo in the us Military.


and it's none of his business nor is he qualified to

comment on The President's foreign policy.


Another Schiff Nothingburger..
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76148856


His initial statement said investigating bursura or whatever would undermine national security. Which it would because putting all the dems in jail would cause a stir. Now he says that parts were omitted about criminal investigations...about biden being under investigation. That is a totally lawful redaction but the dems are going to force it into the light in open testimony. Check mate.

They are setting it up to look like trump deleted trump stuff but it was biden stuff. Bait and switch.
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Impeaching a president for investigating the corruption of a government official. Great plan!
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Then why the coverup by omitting parts of the call in the transcript memorandum?
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There is no coverup. And even if there was, it doesn't change the fact that Trump was investigating the corruption of Biden. And you're going to impeach him for that. Good luck.
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The White House White House memorandum of that July call between President Trump and Ukraine’s president was doctored to omit crucial words and phrases.

Nixon's tapes contained gaps.

Coverups.
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No high crime was committed. The Senate will surely dismiss this non impeachable phone call...

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Vindman.....You mean the Foreign Agent that was working on behalf of a foreign country?
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His testimony is going to force the dems to expose the dems. This is amazing
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76148856


His initial statement said investigating bursura or whatever would undermine national security. Which it would because putting all the dems in jail would cause a stir. Now he says that parts were omitted about criminal investigations...about biden being under investigation. That is a totally lawful redaction but the dems are going to force it into the light in open testimony. Check mate.

They are setting it up to look like trump deleted trump stuff but it was biden stuff. Bait and switch.
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Why do you suppose the White House would have edited and omitted anything from the transcript and released a doctored and incomplete memorandum?
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Because you can't transcribe information related to an active criminal case, by law. Hence required redaction.
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Vindman was diverting nato weapons for piglose
You all are being played for fools
He is a fiona hill spy
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Ok, so LTC Vindman's testimony states that the memorandum omitted parts of Trump's call and he tried to get them included in the "transcript" but failed. So the memorandum was doctored and is incomplete.

And how does this "orce the dems to expose the dems"??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76148856


His initial statement said investigating bursura or whatever would undermine national security. Which it would because putting all the dems in jail would cause a stir. Now he says that parts were omitted about criminal investigations...about biden being under investigation. That is a totally lawful redaction but the dems are going to force it into the light in open testimony. Check mate.

They are setting it up to look like trump deleted trump stuff but it was biden stuff. Bait and switch.
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Why do you suppose the White House would have edited and omitted anything from the transcript and released a doctored and incomplete memorandum?
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Because you can't transcribe information related to an active criminal case, by law. Hence required redaction.
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Was that too clear for you? Thats the hook it had to be redacted by law so as not to compromise the biden criminal investigation. Get it yet?
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After avoiding service in Vietnam by getting a “bone spurs” note from his father’s doctor friend, POTUS now goes after a decorated war veteran who volunteered to risk his life for our country? Who represents the America we want to be?
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Shes gonna get the gitmo express to hell too.
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Nothing critical about it, he is a low level clerk

of which there are over 4ooo in the us Military.


and it's none of his business nor is he qualified to

comment on The President's foreign policy.


Another Schiff Nothingburger..
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You represent the America we don't want to be. Get that thru you're head. It's over for you. We are moving on. You are going to jail. Or you can die bloody.
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The same Sally Yates that was convinced that POTUS was guilty of collusion with Russia... putin
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Absolute BULL SHIT.. More of the wrap-up smear campaign working hand in hand with lawfare.

What we are witnessing is the wrap-up smear followed by the use of Lawfare, dirty COMMUNIST tactics.

Let me describe the exact process the corrupt psychopaths use in the campaign called the Wrap-Up Smear. .
The WRAP-UP SMEAR step-by-step recipe:
1) Demonize somebody with lies and all manner of falsehoods
2) Get the press to report on those falsehoods.
3) Then use those press reports as validation of the smear.




link above is Nancy Pelosi describing the process and how she LOVES being in the Frey..

Lawfare: . Exploit lawfare, which is a form of war consisting of the use of the legal system against an enemy, such as by damaging or delegitimizing them, tying up their time or winning a public relations victory.

These are the exact tools THEY used against Joseph McCarty who was later vindicated. Sen. McCarthy WAS a true national hero who tried to warn us that the enemy was indeed within. McCarthy was totally vindicated by the release of the Venona Papers, which verified and identified the communists within our government, academia and media.

They are using Propaganda and the media once again in this WAR EFFORT, turn it off, starve that beast.
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So if you are running for election, you are exempt from investigation?

What utter bull and the twisting and shouting of these reprobate beasts continue.

Anyone who does not have the brains to see what is being orchestrated in this hidden procedure with selective leaks and the breathless reporting by more reprobate beasts, is also another reprobate beast.

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