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My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.

 
Fossy  (OP)

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11/02/2019 01:45 PM

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Oh how sad! I love persimmons and you had free range of them! But you got even more lucky and found more! What part of the USA do they grow wild like that? I've never seen any in Ohio.
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It’s too bad they’re not shippable. I would send you some.
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that's very thoughtful of you! I meant I've never seen them grow wild in Ohio. I do buy them at Asian markets when they are in season!
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Oh I gotcha, I didn’t read the post well, :)
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Makes wonderful persimmon pudding. Fond memories from youth.
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Do you remember how they were prepared to deal with the seeds? The fruit clings to the seed and I couldn’t get it to come loose easily. I ended scraping it off individually and vowed I would never do that again. chuckle
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Are Quince and Persimmon the same thing?
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surprise surprise fruit trees die.

some last 4 years, some 10, some 20, some 40...but eventually they die and if no one did replaved them on time..it's over.

not grafted persimmons trees usually give very low quality fruits.
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Look for tiny ants around the base of the trees that are still alive.....i bet tiny ants....they suck the juice out of the trees and kill them
They are killing my trees and even one huge banyan tree that was like 50 ft tall and just as wide!
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Are Quince and Persimmon the same thing?
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no, quince is like a big apple with very starcy flesh. They are subtropicals and beside fruiting in vold climates they never ripe becsuse they need very long time to ripe.
So they usually need to be cooked. They are quite aromatic with wonderful fragrance but other than that they need to be processed to be edible.


Persimmons are also subtropicals and there are many varieties. From small round ones,to black ones, to "vanilla" and parsimmon apples.

those usually sold in stores are the last ones because tgey can be shipped as they are firm and with thick skin. In japan they peel them and let them dry to the airand sell them packaged as dry fruit.

but the good ones are actually those who are jelly like...hardly commercialized as they are too fragile.
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Look for tiny ants around the base of the trees that are still alive.....i bet tiny ants....they suck the juice out of the trees and kill them
They are killing my trees and even one huge banyan tree that was like 50 ft tall and just as wide!
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Oh no! Little bastages! Here in Tx. The ants drive you crazy. Not just fire ants but all the little teensy biters. I can’t sit in the grass like I used to in the Ozarks. If I didn’t have chickens I’d kill them all!!!!! Lol
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Are Quince and Persimmon the same thing?
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no, quince is like a big apple with very starcy flesh. They are subtropicals and beside fruiting in vold climates they never ripe becsuse they need very long time to ripe.
So they usually need to be cooked. They are quite aromatic with wonderful fragrance but other than that they need to be processed to be edible.


Persimmons are also subtropicals and there are many varieties. From small round ones,to black ones, to "vanilla" and parsimmon apples.

those usually sold in stores are the last ones because tgey can be shipped as they are firm and with thick skin. In japan they peel them and let them dry to the airand sell them packaged as dry fruit.

but the good ones are actually those who are jelly like...hardly commercialized as they are too fragile.
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Yes! The new stand I found this year have fruits that are the biggest I’ve ever seen. They’re on a downslope towards the lake, maybe they get more water. They’re so good. I’m taking my hubby with me today though because it’s really isolated and wild there. I’m normally not creeped out by the wild but it was dusk and I started thinking of Dogman and freaked myself out. chuckle
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Re: My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.
surprise surprise fruit trees die.

some last 4 years, some 10, some 20, some 40...but eventually they die and if no one did replaved them on time..it's over.

not grafted persimmons trees usually give very low quality fruits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77766058


These are wild. Diospyros virginiana, never needed to be grafted as far as I know. I know fruit trees die. But even the young one died and this was only it’s second fruiting. Branches are broken. It looks wrong.
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Are Quince and Persimmon the same thing?
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no, quince is like a big apple with very starcy flesh. They are subtropicals and beside fruiting in vold climates they never ripe becsuse they need very long time to ripe.
So they usually need to be cooked. They are quite aromatic with wonderful fragrance but other than that they need to be processed to be edible.


Persimmons are also subtropicals and there are many varieties. From small round ones,to black ones, to "vanilla" and parsimmon apples.

those usually sold in stores are the last ones because tgey can be shipped as they are firm and with thick skin. In japan they peel them and let them dry to the airand sell them packaged as dry fruit.

but the good ones are actually those who are jelly like...hardly commercialized as they are too fragile.
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Thank you for taking the time to type out such a good answer.
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I never seen those before. They look like tomatoes kinda...what do they taste like?
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Where do you live bleep? I bet you have some around and have just not noticed them.
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Illinoise, outside Chicago. I never even heard of em before.
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Makes wonderful persimmon pudding. Fond memories from youth.
 Quoting: CK722


Do you remember how they were prepared to deal with the seeds? The fruit clings to the seed and I couldn’t get it to come loose easily. I ended scraping it off individually and vowed I would never do that again. chuckle
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I made a "squeeze bag" from woven material with about 1/8" holes. Do not know what the material is called or used for. I think I bought it at a cloth store. I sewed it in the shape of a sock. Place very ripe persimmons 2/3rd full and squeeze by hand. The sauce oozes out of the holes. A cup or so is used to make pudding in an 8"x8" pan. Google for receipts.

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Re: My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.
Don't grow where I live; more of a southern fruit.

To be tasty, they need to remain on the tree until fully ripe. A little frost probably helps them ripen.

When they are getting soft, you can just cut a hole around the stem end and suck them right out. I really liked them. I was picking off a tree between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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gypsy moth or some other pest may have done them in. Animals have a knack for finding the fruit before humans and deer and raccoons don't seem to mind them a bit unripe. That's truly a bummer but if the trees are dead the wood is extremely good for woodworking and carving.
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If you eat them before they are ripe, your entire gums will feel dry and as if they got robbed of all moisture, within 20-30 seconds.

It's a very odd feeling, but it's because of the tannins that these fruit are packed with.

I went and got two from the local park and the tree there looks AWESOME! The pruned the lower branches, but the entire thing looks like a magnificent orange tree.

I could only knock off 2 pieces with a fallen branch and they both were still a little firm, just starting to soften and about the size of a small to medium sized tomato.

Took a photo, for comparison and will.upload when I get on my computer next.

Going back with a long pole to grab some and then let them sit in the kitchen to ripen. Again, eat too soon and it's pucker city! Also, with that pucker is a chalky sensation and it made me think of what might happen if you were to suck on an Alum stick, those things you use to stop bleeding when shaving.
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It’s not my property, just a stand of about 10 trees I visit every year and pick up Persimmons. I’m so sad! Been visiting for about 20 yrs. and the young one across the road from them was loaded last year and half dead this year. All the other trees are fine.

It’s been a good year for other trees. I found a different stand last night and those persimmons are whoppers! It’s just kind if odd, I was wondering if anyone else had this happen or know why.
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My cherry trees all died this year. They were great, in their 4th year, and then they never leafed this spring. So sad....heirlooms and montmorency.
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It’s not my property, just a stand of about 10 trees I visit every year and pick up Persimmons. I’m so sad! Been visiting for about 20 yrs. and the young one across the road from them was loaded last year and half dead this year. All the other trees are fine.

It’s been a good year for other trees. I found a different stand last night and those persimmons are whoppers! It’s just kind if odd, I was wondering if anyone else had this happen or know why.
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My cherry trees all died this year. They were great, in their 4th year, and then they never leafed this spring. So sad....heirlooms and montmorency.
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Oh no! You have every right yo be so very, very upset! I’m so sorry!!
Fruit trees are special. I have room enough for any tree and I never planted one. My dog did but in all the wrong places. Lol

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Who TF cares?
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Re: My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.
gypsy moth or some other pest may have done them in. Animals have a knack for finding the fruit before humans and deer and raccoons don't seem to mind them a bit unripe. That's truly a bummer but if the trees are dead the wood is extremely good for woodworking and carving.
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The limbs are broken and they didn’t fruit. Next time a storm takes out a limb. I’m going to keep it. I guess you need to let it dry or age before you try carving? That sounds fun. I like to try new things. Crafty wise.
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Who TF cares?
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Not you
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Makes wonderful persimmon pudding. Fond memories from youth.
 Quoting: CK722


Do you remember how they were prepared to deal with the seeds? The fruit clings to the seed and I couldn’t get it to come loose easily. I ended scraping it off individually and vowed I would never do that again. chuckle
 Quoting: Fossy


I made a "squeeze bag" from woven material with about 1/8" holes. Do not know what the material is called or used for. I think I bought it at a cloth store. I sewed it in the shape of a sock. Place very ripe persimmons 2/3rd full and squeeze by hand. The sauce oozes out of the holes. A cup or so is used to make pudding in an 8"x8" pan. Google for receipts.

hf
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Ok, I’m getting the idea, I tried using a mesh strainer and a spoon. But this way sounds better as you can massage the pulp off the seeds. THANK YOU! I will try it. Wouldn’t persimmon preserves be awesome on Christmas morning? hugs
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Re: My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.
Diospyros means ‘food of the gods’ in greek.
What do you know! It’s a member of the Ebony family. The wood is sometimes black. Now I’m really interested. I still have a few sticks. I’m going to peel them and see what it looks like. Probably too small to tell.
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I never seen those before. They look like tomatoes kinda...what do they taste like?
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Where do you live bleep? I bet you have some around and have just not noticed them.
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Illinoise, outside Chicago. I never even heard of em before.
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Hey bleep! :) I read they are very common in southern Illinois. Now is a good time to look! EDIT* you are very far north. :(

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It’s the Beatles?

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Deer love persimmons.
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I never seen those before. They look like tomatoes kinda...what do they taste like?
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Where do you live bleep? I bet you have some around and have just not noticed them.
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Illinoise, outside Chicago. I never even heard of em before.
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Hey bleep! :) I read they are very common in southern Illinois. Now is a good time to look! EDIT* you are very far north. :(
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That’s good to know. Bucket list hf
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Re: My stand of Persimmon trees all died this year.
I bought a bunch of persimmon's from an Asian market yesterday and I asked my kids to describe the flavor and I think they nailed it, cantaloupe.
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