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Breaking: Trump Responds to at least 10 women and children with Utah ties killed, Cartel Style, in Mexico

 
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This whole thing is fucked up on a zillion levels.
You have American women and children killed by drug cartels that are not only out of control, but are apparently armed to the hilt and have become as formidable a para military force as the actual real Mexican Military.

Then you have some bizzarro mormans living in an out of control mexican state that is pretty much run by the cartels pumping out litters of kids and living like the stepford wives.

The whole thing is just fucked up.
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I seriously doubt it was a case of mistaken identity.

As if white women with kids can't be involved in the drug trade and other insidious activities.

Kids were just a casualty of war. Where are their husbands and fathers at?!
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What in the fuck are Americans doing in Mexico?

Geez. Some people never learn.

It's like those idiots that were hiking in North Korea or was it Iran? And they got caught.
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They are dual citizens
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This story sounds so fucked up, Yeah what the fuck were they doing in Meheeko?? Dual Citizenshit?? Shitloadd of kids? Caught in middle of two cartels. Nothing seems innocent about this story.
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Go back in this thread, read-up, get educated. Some of you assume the “Mormons bad “ immediately. These are respectable people, WOMEN AND CHILDREN SLAUGHTERED, and some people are here to question them.
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What husband, or father would send those precious to them unattended on a road trip into Mexico?????
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I seriously doubt it was a case of mistaken identity.

As if white women with kids can't be involved in the drug trade and other insidious activities.

Kids were just a casualty of war. Where are their husbands and fathers at?!
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killing the whole Family is a major Terrorism tactic.
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I seriously doubt it was a case of mistaken identity.

As if white women with kids can't be involved in the drug trade and other insidious activities.

Kids were just a casualty of war. Where are their husbands and fathers at?!
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I seriously doubt it was a case of mistaken identity.

As if white women with kids can't be involved in the drug trade and other insidious activities.

Kids were just a casualty of war. Where are their husbands and fathers at?!
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Working? I can’t be with my wife and kids all the time because I’m WORKING!!!!!
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I think these idiot Mexicans finally just fucked themselves. With this one atrocious act, you've not only vindicated what Trump has said about you, but you've also vindicated any Military action that may come of it. You know that once we get going Militarily, it doesn't stop for a long long time. It's that serious what you've just done.
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I Am picturing a million heavily armed men in white shirts and black ties marching south to find the missing. Trump needs to do something quickly or Mormans are coming to clean house.
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Why so many children?
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Mormons. Probably fundamentalist ones, too, considering they were part of a breakaway group that moved to Mexico.
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That’s interesting. They moved to Mexico cuz nobody would bother them and they will do their thing freely, no questions at all.
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Yup. When Mormons leave Utah, that’s usually the reason. There’s a fundamentalist Mormon town in Arizona, I think, that was built to escape Utah’s anti-polygamy laws. For whatever reason, Arizona leaves them alone.
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Well then the ones that live in Mexico should move there...
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In 2010, two members of the Chihuahua Mormon community, including one from the LeBaron family, were killed in apparent revenge after security forces tracked drug gang members.

The Mormons had suffered widespread kidnappings before that.



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That CULT is a whole nother worm hole

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God only knows..
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I’m looking into why this “cult” was feuding with the cartel
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More like a drug or money or deal gone bad b/t a husband and the cartel. They were targets and likely punishment or revenge
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Yeah you're a real fuckin IP expert.
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As much as you or anyone else in here. I employed a high school kid years ago who’s parents were both in the cartel, also work with a guy from time to time that once had ongoing dealings with the cartel and spent 4 years in Mexico in hiding from an American gang. I

I’m no “IP” expert, but I did stay in a holiday inn express once.

Just telling it how it looks to me, don’t believe it was accidental or the wrong targets
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The left and the young, assume people are as dumb/ignorant as they are. But actually, IP was invented by White pipo and experts in the subject of Internet Protocol do exist, and it has nothing to do really with model layers.
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Two separate execution style killings in two different areas against the same group





Rhonita Miller was on her way to a shopping trip in Arizona with her family when they were attacked, while the others were going to Chihuahua to visit relatives, Miller said.





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What in the fuck are Americans doing in Mexico?

Geez. Some people never learn.

It's like those idiots that were hiking in North Korea or was it Iran? And they got caught.
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polygamy
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THROUPLES
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I think these idiot Mexicans finally just fucked themselves. With this one atrocious act, you've not only vindicated what Trump has said about you, but you've also vindicated any Military action that may come of it. You know that once we get going Militarily, it doesn't stop for a long long time. It's that serious what you've just done.
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Imagine the ties that may be uncovered from this.....

This may bring disgraced Holder back in the light
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The laser pointer Trump used, aka a tweet, brought world attention to this...thinking exactly that
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I think these idiot Mexicans finally just fucked themselves. With this one atrocious act, you've not only vindicated what Trump has said about you, but you've also vindicated any Military action that may come of it. You know that once we get going Militarily, it doesn't stop for a long long time. It's that serious what you've just done.
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Imagine the ties that may be uncovered from this.....

This may bring disgraced Holder back in the light
 Quoting: ~kpm~


The laser pointer Trump used, aka a tweet, brought world attention to this...thinking exactly that
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This would be awesome, if uncovered
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Mormons. Probably fundamentalist ones, too, considering they were part of a breakaway group that moved to Mexico.
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That’s interesting. They moved to Mexico cuz nobody would bother them and they will do their thing freely, no questions at all.
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Yup. When Mormons leave Utah, that’s usually the reason. There’s a fundamentalist Mormon town in Arizona, I think, that was built to escape Utah’s anti-polygamy laws. For whatever reason, Arizona leaves them alone.
 Quoting: Deplorable Revbo™


Yeah, that’s why there’re so many children.
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At least some of us are breeding
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Trump Tweet........



President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter:

“A wonderful family and friends from Utah got caught between two vicious drug cartels, who were shooting at each other, with the result being many great American people killed, including young children, and some missing.

If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively.

The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!”

He added, “This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth. We merely await a call from your great new president!”





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At least nine people—including six children—who lived in a religious community of U.S. citizens in northern Mexico were killed Monday in what could be a case of mistaken identity after drug trafficking rivals got into a shootout with cartel gunmen, according to family.



The victims were said to be members of the LeBaron family, linked to a breakaway Mormon community which settled in Mexico several decades ago.


Rhonita Maria LeBaron—and her four children-- twin 6-month-olds and two others aged 8 and 10—were reportedly found outside the town of Bavispe

43-year-old Dawna Ray Langford and 31-year-old Christina Marie Langford—were found in a separate location later Monday. A third relative said a 4-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy were also killed, bringing the death toll to at least 9.


According to Langford Jr.’s Facebook post, one of the older boys in the group managed to escape with six of his siblings from the ongoing shootout and run back to his home at La Mora settlement, which is located about 70 miles south of Douglas, Ariz.

He said he left other children who were injured hidden on the side of the road.

It was unclear how many children were ultimately rescued as of Monday evening.



The man said a convoy of three vehicles had set out Monday from La Mora — a decades-old settlement founded as part of an offshoot of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — but were attacked by cartel gunmen in what he said may have been a case of mistaken identity.

Two of the three vehicles believed to be carrying two women and 13 children were still missing.




The families lived in La Mora, about 70 miles (110 kilometers) south of Douglas, Arizona.

Many of the church’s members were born in Mexico and thus have dual citizenship.



family member says 17 of his family were in the three-vehicle convoy when it came under attack.

He said nine were killed, six wounded, and two left unharmed.


Fox is saying they got in the middle of two fighting Cartels now


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Black Jack Pershing—100 years ago. Smedley Butler was in that fight as well, history repeating itself.

Poncho Villa

Now it will be infinitely harder, and much more deadly, as the cartels are infiltrated across our country

No matter

Wipe them out Mr. President. Hunt them all down like dogs. Sicario, Sir.
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Actually Mexico is beautiful. We have subhumans making shitholes in all countries.
Please tell me one country without a corrupted government.
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^^ Defends gang shitholes

Not appropriate at this time.
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Reading comprehension much?
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Trump Tweet........



President Donald Trump wrote on Twitter:

“A wonderful family and friends from Utah got caught between two vicious drug cartels, who were shooting at each other, with the result being many great American people killed, including young children, and some missing.

If Mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively.

The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!”

He added, “This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth. We merely await a call from your great new president!”





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At least nine people—including six children—who lived in a religious community of U.S. citizens in northern Mexico were killed Monday in what could be a case of mistaken identity after drug trafficking rivals got into a shootout with cartel gunmen, according to family.



The victims were said to be members of the LeBaron family, linked to a breakaway Mormon community which settled in Mexico several decades ago.


Rhonita Maria LeBaron—and her four children-- twin 6-month-olds and two others aged 8 and 10—were reportedly found outside the town of Bavispe

43-year-old Dawna Ray Langford and 31-year-old Christina Marie Langford—were found in a separate location later Monday. A third relative said a 4-year-old girl and a 6-year-old boy were also killed, bringing the death toll to at least 9.


According to Langford Jr.’s Facebook post, one of the older boys in the group managed to escape with six of his siblings from the ongoing shootout and run back to his home at La Mora settlement, which is located about 70 miles south of Douglas, Ariz.

He said he left other children who were injured hidden on the side of the road.

It was unclear how many children were ultimately rescued as of Monday evening.



The man said a convoy of three vehicles had set out Monday from La Mora — a decades-old settlement founded as part of an offshoot of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints — but were attacked by cartel gunmen in what he said may have been a case of mistaken identity.

Two of the three vehicles believed to be carrying two women and 13 children were still missing.




The families lived in La Mora, about 70 miles (110 kilometers) south of Douglas, Arizona.

Many of the church’s members were born in Mexico and thus have dual citizenship.



family member says 17 of his family were in the three-vehicle convoy when it came under attack.

He said nine were killed, six wounded, and two left unharmed.


Fox is saying they got in the middle of two fighting Cartels now


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 Quoting: ~kpm~


Black Jack Pershing—100 years ago. Smedley Butler was in that fight as well, history repeating itself.

Poncho Villa

Now it will be infinitely harder, and much more deadly, as the cartels are infiltrated across our country

No matter

Wipe them out Mr. President. Hunt them all down like dogs. Sicario, Sir.
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Fast and furiously !
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I watched the Vice video which carefully explained the long-standing turf war that has existed between the Mormons and the Cartels. This just seems to be an extension of this feud? Or a case of mistaken identity surely?
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They are dual citizens
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And your point is?

I'm Hispanic and you'll never see my kids, wife and I anywhere near that Shit hole country.
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Actually Mexico is beautiful. We have subhumans making shitholes in all countries.
Please tell me one country without a corrupted government.
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That's not the point. No one saying it's not a beautiful country. It's RUN BY THE DRUG CARTELS and they are some of the most vicious criminals on earth and we should be eliminating all of them. Just drop a few bombs on the fuckers. We know where they are. Mexico will never be free until we join with them to get rid of the cartels.
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I think the cartels are a bigger issue than isis
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What in the fuck are Americans doing in Mexico?

Geez. Some people never learn.

It's like those idiots that were hiking in North Korea or was it Iran? And they got caught.
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you're an idiot
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Last year, Mexico witnessed its highest number of homicides -- 33,000.

And 2019 is on course to break that record.



wtf



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I watched the Vice video which carefully explained the long-standing turf war that has existed between the Mormons and the Cartels. This just seems to be an extension of this feud? Or a case of mistaken identity surely?
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I think it’s a turf war

They were targeted and in two different spots
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I don’t think is was a case of mistaken identity. I feel like one or some of the men related to the women were involved with the cartel in some manner. They clearly had plenty of money looking at the photos, had a previous run in with the cartels, some had dual citizenship, and killing the women and children would have been the ultimate punishment in the cartel’s mind, also these were close up murders and killing in road ditches , not mistakes.

Just my 2 cents
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There were 3 vehicles found in two different spots

I don’t think they were just caught in cross fire either

There is more to this story

It appears they were a target
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Because they are Americans? Or possibly Mormons more specifically?
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Trump tweet


This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth.

We merely await a call from your great new president!



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What in the fuck are Americans doing in Mexico?

Geez. Some people never learn.

It's like those idiots that were hiking in North Korea or was it Iran? And they got caught.
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They are dual citizens
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This story sounds so fucked up, Yeah what the fuck were they doing in Meheeko?? Dual Citizenshit?? Shitloadd of kids? Caught in middle of two cartels. Nothing seems innocent about this story.
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that's not the point. The Point Is, we're next unless we Strike.
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OK not the point but a point nontheless. Basically what this means is we will go to war with Mexico. Take it any way you want but thats what it is. The Cartel is vast with extreme holdings and influence on most of the population, They own the country, its peoples and the law. This will be war with Nexico. Mexico as it exists in its present state. And just think we are at war within our own borders also. Just takes one match and the shit will get real ugly.
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They apparently were part of a polygamous Mormon cult. They seemed more Mexican than "American," as they lived in Mexico.
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So they are Mexican cultist, not American Mormons? Tell us more...
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9 US citizens slaughtered in Mexico ambush, family says


Three women and six of their children, all with ties to Utah, were slaughtered Monday in Mexico.


The women and their kids are all dual Mexican and U.S. citizens and were traveling back to the U.S, when family members say they were ambushed by cartels.


It happened near Bavispe, in Sonora, about 100 miles south of Mexico’s border with Arizona.




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yeahsure dual Mexican and U.S. Citizens wtf That is an abomination!

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They apparently were part of a polygamous Mormon cult. They seemed more Mexican than "American," as they lived in Mexico.
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So they are Mexican cultist, not American Mormons? Tell us more...
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What is your point?

Women and children were viciously killed

They were dual US/Mexican citizens who were Mormon
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They are dual citizens
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This story sounds so fucked up, Yeah what the fuck were they doing in Meheeko?? Dual Citizenshit?? Shitloadd of kids? Caught in middle of two cartels. Nothing seems innocent about this story.
GM
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that's not the point. The Point Is, we're next unless we Strike.
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OK not the point but a point nontheless. Basically what this means is we will go to war with Mexico. Take it any way you want but thats what it is. The Cartel is vast with extreme holdings and influence on most of the population, They own the country, its peoples and the law. This will be war with Nexico. Mexico as it exists in its present state. And just think we are at war within our own borders also. Just takes one match and the shit will get real ugly.
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and, they have already infiltrated the U.S. to a frightening extent.





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