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Angels are the messengers of God, not dead human beings. The Bible makes this clear. No one there "tested the spirit" as the Bible commands you to do in such a situation. Not one word was mentioned about the apparition stating to them "I'm a messenger of God" as the Bible clearly states they do upon arrival. The apparition never stated "Jesus Christ has came in the flesh", as the Bible mentions as a test of the spirits, as demonic spirits are not able to utter such words.

Looks like clear demonic deception to me. Maybe I should go ask some Earthly man to absolve me of my sins (Since that's how Catholics roll, which renders Jesus completely useless) and follow his orders to light candles and send up a prayer to a dead female human though, just in case I'm wrong. I'll make sure I do this in front of a giant, idolatrous statue of her and wait for the Vicar of Christ (In place of Christ) aka The Pope, to tell me what to think, because reading Gods Word to man is useless, only the Vicar of Christ speaks for God.

Or maybe....I'll just see it for it obviously is. Clear demonic deception.
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OK, well I kind of doubt Satan would want to stress folks getting back to God (specifically Jesus), go to confession and pray without ceasing. If this is Satan masquerading in Medjugorje, he has utterly failed. Thousands upon thousands have been awakened in their faith and I don’t mean Allah. By the way, do your homework: these kids/adults have tested the spirit of Mary for years now. Sigh.
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This is me with Maria and Vicka in Medjugorje back in ‘87. As you can see, I had them mostly to myself to ask whatever I wanted. What a tremendous opportunity to really figure out what was going on there.
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This whole "Virgin Mary" nonsense is leading people astray at an alarming rate.

They pray to Mary, not God.
They worship Mary, not God.
They ask Mary to pray for the souls of the dead, when they should know the Bible clearly states to not pray for the dead because once you are dead, God is in complete control of your soul then, not you or not some other dead person that can veto or overwrite God....
And more and more and more.....

It's all part of this "Feminine spirit" uprising. Some people call it the Jezzabel spirit, probably a bad name for it since it encompasses way more than what we knew about Jezzy.

We are seeing it unfold right in front of our eyes, as the "Virgin Mary" appears, we see the rise of radical, crazed "feminists", that are not feminist at all. We see the blurring of the lines between "male and female" just like this "apparition" appearing as a female when it is obviously not.
We see the demolition of demonstrable and provable scientific data showing the differences between male and female and are brainwashed into believing "Men can have babies too, and there is no difference between men and women, you can be whatever you want!"...........

All while the "Virgin Mary" makes herself known and more of this follows..it's so obvious a blind man could see it....

and the list goes on and on and on....but those with eyes to see and ears to hear know whats going on, and those Catholics that were brainwashed will just argue and argue against it without putting any thought into it at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70317017


You are obviously retarded and misinformed

Catholics don't worship Mary or pray to her. They ask her to pray for us which is biblical. Saints and angels in heaven pray for us

She also is Jesus mother and he said she is now our mother. You can talk to your mother and ask her about anything

You are misinformed and angry
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Great post.

Pax vobiscum.




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...

You still offer no proof of your assertion, and I have replied to you twice.
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The proof is in verse 25.
It's right there in that verse - He knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son.

It's throughout the bible.

In Genesis, Adam knew his wife, and she conceived (gen 4:1)
Cain knew his wife, and she conceived (17)
Adam knew his wife again (25)


In Judges there is this: But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go.

When the bible speaks of knowing a woman (or a man, as in the case of Lot), it's speaking of sex.

And there is nothing at all wrong with Joseph and Mary having sex. They were married.
 Quoting: ljsikes

You are inferring that Joseph “knew” Mary after the birth of Jesus, and that is not stated whatsoever. The scripture passage you reference simply discounts any possibility of Joseph having been the biolological father of Jesus, that’s all.

You are right that there would have been nothing wrong with Joseph and Mary having intercourse, since they were husband and wife, but there was simply no reason for them to have such a relationship. According to Church tradition (largely discarded by Protestants) both Mary and Joseph were consecrated virgins, and married only to cooperate with God’s will to provide Jesus with an earthly Family. People automatically think in carnal terms, but the fact is that not everyone those urges, and some with high callings are given the gift (yes, gift) of celibacy.
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I'm not inferring. It comes down to how that particular passage should be interpreted. Is it in harmony with other such passages? What was the intent of the passage?
Just as you say there was no reason for them to have a relationship like that, I say there is an actual verse in the bible that indicates they did. Church tradition may state one thing, but where is that tradition backed up or validated in God's word?

And it's not just a Roman Catholic thing, so please don't think I'm attacking you or your church. Many churches have traditions which aren't supported by scripture.

I'll also add that whether or not Joseph and Mary actually had a relationship like that doesn't really matter. It doesn't change the fact that Mary was blessed. And it doesn't change anything regarding our Lord.
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The fact is, nowhere are the details of Mary and Joseph’s marital relationship explicitly stated anywhere. It is good to discuss differences in a mutually respectful manner.

In the Catholic Church, Sacred Tradition is on equal footing with Sacred Scripture, so we understand that not everything there is to know about the Faith is mentioned in the Bible, and cannot possibly be contained in the Bible. Scripture itself tells us as much. We rely on the Magisterium (teaching body of the Church) to definitively interpret Sacred Scripture; this does not mean that Catholics are not to read the Bible on their own, because they are encouraged to do so, but we rely on the authorities to make definitive interpretations.

The Church established by Christ is 2,000 years old, and is rich with extra-biblical teachings and writings, experiences of saints and mystics, rituals, sacramentals, etc., that enrich the Faith. Contrast this with the post-Reformation denominations that subscribe to the un-biblical practice of Sola Scriptura, and whose churches are less than 600 years old and have mostly abandoned the great traditions that all Christians once enjoyed. The disparity of church histories, primarily the non-Catholic Christian rejection of Sacred Tradition and central authority, is at the root of most of the disagreements.
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Fuck her she has nothing to do with God!
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I'd read Luke's gospel if I were you.
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These people are so insane and so stupid to ignore that it is demonic to worship people.

Mary was a specialy lady, chosen to give birth to Jesus in a human form. She was a righteous woman. But she was a person. She is not a saint, she is not God, she is not the mother of God. She should not be worshipped and she does not appear to people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78072502


These people are so insane and so stupid to ignore that it is demonic to worship people.

Mary was a specialy lady, chosen to give birth to Jesus in a human form. She was a righteous woman. But she was a person. She is not a saint, she is not God, she is not the mother of God. She should not be worshipped and she does not appear to people.
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Well since Jesus is God then technically she is the mother of God.
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These people are so insane and so stupid to ignore that it is demonic to worship people.

Mary was a specialy lady, chosen to give birth to Jesus in a human form. She was a righteous woman. But she was a person. She is not a saint, she is not God, she is not the mother of God. She should not be worshipped and she does not appear to people.
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Well since Jesus is God then technically she is the mother of God.
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Jesus is the SON OF God.

Father God wasn't born.

dumbass
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Why does she always appear in that unpronounceable fucking place?
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Angels are the messengers of God, not dead human beings. The Bible makes this clear. No one there "tested the spirit" as the Bible commands you to do in such a situation. Not one word was mentioned about the apparition stating to them "I'm a messenger of God" as the Bible clearly states they do upon arrival. The apparition never stated "Jesus Christ has came in the flesh", as the Bible mentions as a test of the spirits, as demonic spirits are not able to utter such words.

Looks like clear demonic deception to me. Maybe I should go ask some Earthly man to absolve me of my sins (Since that's how Catholics roll, which renders Jesus completely useless) and follow his orders to light candles and send up a prayer to a dead female human though, just in case I'm wrong. I'll make sure I do this in front of a giant, idolatrous statue of her and wait for the Vicar of Christ (In place of Christ) aka The Pope, to tell me what to think, because reading Gods Word to man is useless, only the Vicar of Christ speaks for God.

Or maybe....I'll just see it for it obviously is. Clear demonic deception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70356508


OK, well I kind of doubt Satan would want to stress folks getting back to God (specifically Jesus), go to confession and pray without ceasing. If this is Satan masquerading in Medjugorje, he has utterly failed. Thousands upon thousands have been awakened in their faith and I don’t mean Allah. By the way, do your homework: these kids/adults have tested the spirit of Mary for years now. Sigh.
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So the "Virgin Mary" got people to go back to confessing their sins to a MAN (not God/Jesus), and got them to go ask a MAN (not God/Jesus) for absolution for their sins. Gets them to pray to Mary (not God), and Satan is doing a horrible job of deception?

I don't know, to get all these people to do exactly what the scriptures tell them explicitly NOT to do while others defend it sounds like a pretty great job to me.

Also, I have done my homework. There is not one single account of a "Virgin Mary" apparition ever being tested like the Bible orders you to do. Just many accounts of people oogling over something supernatural because it lifted them out of their mundane existence and showed them the spiritual world is real so they did not question anything else about it, but were absolutely fascinated instead. Sounds like the perfect targets for a deception to me.
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Actually, good question. Probably because appearing on Rideo Drive it Central Park would be even less credible. All 6 kids (ages 9-16 at the time, 1981) came from different families. The local priest (Fr Jozo) didn’t believe them at first but he soon heard a voice at the back of his church (St James) to “protect the children”. He later spent time in prison for supporting them. There’s something very huge happening spiritually in this little village. Oh sure the gypsies from Mostar now ply their plastic madonnas kn every street corner snd the little town has expanded. I’m just glad I went in ‘87 without a “pilgrimage” mindset. Medjugorje is a continuation of Lourdes and Fatima. The fact that these apparitions have continued daily for these many, many years should raise some atheist eyebrows. She’s here for a reason. There will always be frauds and copycats and schizophrenics. This is different. It bears good fruit.
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Satan is more than happy to provide apparitions to mislead followers of Christ. This is one of primary dangers of Catholicism where even true believers can be led astray.
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Mary represents everything that is good. There are countless of witnessed miracles when a figure of a woman in white robe appears. Whether she is “Mary” or some other entity it is real.
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Rodeo Drive or Central Park, just love autocorrect!
But to the above comment, you have no personal information about how these kids tested the lady appearing to them. They most certainly used holy water, said prayers and anything else recommended by their priest to verify this was NOT demonic. Try to research this phenomenon more thoroughly. You get a D- so far In your homework. And before you scoff at Catholic holy water, why do you think pastors from all denominations come to a Catholic exorcist to get rid of demons??
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These people are so insane and so stupid to ignore that it is demonic to worship people.

Mary was a specialy lady, chosen to give birth to Jesus in a human form. She was a righteous woman. But she was a person. She is not a saint, she is not God, she is not the mother of God. She should not be worshipped and she does not appear to people.
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Well since Jesus is God then technically she is the mother of God.
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Jesus is the SON OF God.

Father God wasn't born.

dumbass
 Quoting: TheLordsServant

No one here claimed that Mary was the Mother of God the Father; that would be ridiculous. She is the daughter of the Father, Mother of the Son (in His earthly Incarnation), and Spouse of the Holy Spirit.
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According to Saint Padre Pio, you can test if an apparition is good or evil by how it makes you feel. If you feel peace when it's with you and when it's gone, then it is good. If it makes you happy, but then makes you sad when it's gone, it is evil.
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Angels are the messengers of God, not dead human beings. The Bible makes this clear. No one there "tested the spirit" as the Bible commands you to do in such a situation. Not one word was mentioned about the apparition stating to them "I'm a messenger of God" as the Bible clearly states they do upon arrival. The apparition never stated "Jesus Christ has came in the flesh", as the Bible mentions as a test of the spirits, as demonic spirits are not able to utter such words.

Looks like clear demonic deception to me. Maybe I should go ask some Earthly man to absolve me of my sins (Since that's how Catholics roll, which renders Jesus completely useless) and follow his orders to light candles and send up a prayer to a dead female human though, just in case I'm wrong. I'll make sure I do this in front of a giant, idolatrous statue of her and wait for the Vicar of Christ (In place of Christ) aka The Pope, to tell me what to think, because reading Gods Word to man is useless, only the Vicar of Christ speaks for God.

Or maybe....I'll just see it for it obviously is. Clear demonic deception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70356508


OK, well I kind of doubt Satan would want to stress folks getting back to God (specifically Jesus), go to confession and pray without ceasing. If this is Satan masquerading in Medjugorje, he has utterly failed. Thousands upon thousands have been awakened in their faith and I don’t mean Allah. By the way, do your homework: these kids/adults have tested the spirit of Mary for years now. Sigh.
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So the "Virgin Mary" got people to go back to confessing their sins to a MAN (not God/Jesus), and got them to go ask a MAN (not God/Jesus) for absolution for their sins. Gets them to pray to Mary (not God), and Satan is doing a horrible job of deception?

I don't know, to get all these people to do exactly what the scriptures tell them explicitly NOT to do while others defend it sounds like a pretty great job to me.

Also, I have done my homework. There is not one single account of a "Virgin Mary" apparition ever being tested like the Bible orders you to do. Just many accounts of people oogling over something supernatural because it lifted them out of their mundane existence and showed them the spiritual world is real so they did not question anything else about it, but were absolutely fascinated instead. Sounds like the perfect targets for a deception to me.
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Christ Himself instituted the Sacrament of Reconciliation when, after instituting the priesthood at the Last Supper, and upon giving Peter the keys to the kingdom, He told Peter that the sins he forgave would be forgiven, and the sins he retained would be retained. Even if you reject that, Protestants do, since we are biblically exhorted to confess to one another, why not confess to a priest...even if you don’t believe he is qualified to hear confessions and absolve sins in persona Christi.

If you did your homework, as you assert, you would know that the Medjugorge visionaries have been exhaustively tested, as have all visionaries and locutionists deemed worthy of investigation by the Catholic Church; there are multiple references available online, including a long YouTube video. Authentic visionaries also protect themselves personally from deception with prayer, discernment, the use of sacramentals, and the support of a spiritual director; they are also protected by the sacramental life of the Church.
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Wait. I must have missed the part where Mary appears. All I see are some people mumbling and an older blonde lady with a rosary looking upwards and mumbling too. Where’s the appearance of Mary again?
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Wait. I must have missed the part where Mary appears. All I see are some people mumbling and an older blonde lady with a rosary looking upwards and mumbling too. Where’s the appearance of Mary again?
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And why didn’t any of the other mumblers act as though they saw Mary? Mary only “appears” to one person? And no one gets it on video? Yeah, seems legit
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I hear she plans on running agaist Trump.
Too spare us the horror of Hillary.
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Why does she always appear in that unpronounceable fucking place?
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It's pronounced

Midge U Goria

And why? Nobody knows....
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Wait. I must have missed the part where Mary appears. All I see are some people mumbling and an older blonde lady with a rosary looking upwards and mumbling too. Where’s the appearance of Mary again?
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And why didn’t any of the other mumblers act as though they saw Mary? Mary only “appears” to one person? And no one gets it on video? Yeah, seems legit
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The message is simple....pray....pray for your soul, pray for your enemies, pray for strength to forgive your enemies. That's all.....

No send a donation to the following, or send 5 dollars to this po box...or buy our holy water....they aren't soliciting anything....

So Colombo what's the scam here?
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and, one of my Cheetos, too!!!!
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Fuck her she has nothing to do with God!
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Mind your manners dirt bag.
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Somebody ask her if she is the Mother Of God OR the Mother of the son of God.
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she supposedly said:

" MY Children"
We are NOT her children we are GOD'S

"Apostles of MY love"
We are not Apostles of her love.. only Christs!

" Read the book of the gospel it binds you to my Son"
Well Faith in Christ alone and what he did on the cross "BINDS YOU TO HIM"

False message!
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Wait. I must have missed the part where Mary appears. All I see are some people mumbling and an older blonde lady with a rosary looking upwards and mumbling too. Where’s the appearance of Mary again?
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And why didn’t any of the other mumblers act as though they saw Mary? Mary only “appears” to one person? And no one gets it on video? Yeah, seems legit
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The message is simple....pray....pray for your soul, pray for your enemies, pray for strength to forgive your enemies. That's all.....

No send a donation to the following, or send 5 dollars to this po box...or buy our holy water....they aren't soliciting anything....

So Colombo what's the scam here?
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The title of this post says "Virgin Mary has just appeared in Medjugorje" and there's an embedded video. The video doesn't show nay apparition, it shows a woman looking up and other people milling about. So where's the apparition? If I want to see people looking up I can go to NYC and watch people marvel at the skyline. If someone says Mary is there, show it. And apparently no one else in the crowd saw anything either, otherwise they'd react. But they didn't.

And the "scam" is the boatloads of tourist dollars that pour into the town from the misguided "faithful" to watch a woman look upward.

Clear enough for you?
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When believers die they go down into the earth, into Abraham's Bosom where they sleep and await the resurrection and judgment on the last day. That's where Mary is. Satan is the ruler of this world and the air. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is dead. She did not ascend to heaven, she died, and is awaiting her Savior, King and God Jesus. If she is seeing anything it is the power of Satan manifesting.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God




Wow! That degenerated rather quickly...
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When believers die they go down into the earth, into Abraham's Bosom where they sleep and await the resurrection and judgment on the last day. That's where Mary is. Satan is the ruler of this world and the air. Mary, the mother of Jesus, is dead. She did not ascend to heaven, she died, and is awaiting her Savior, King and God Jesus. If she is seeing anything it is the power of Satan manifesting.

2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 Quoting: Jesus is also the Father God




Wow! That degenerated rather quickly...
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Especially since Jesus himself told the thief crucified next to him that they would both be in paradise that day.





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