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Virgin Mary has just appeared in Medjugorje

 
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Let's think about this logically.

If the Virgin Mary was a human, a pure innocent lady that was chosen to be the mother of Jesus by immaculate conception....then she was still a human. She was not divine.

So if she was still a human and not a deity, she has no capability of appearing after she died according to the rest of the Bible, she is resting in "Abrahams bosoom" which makes the Bible full of contradictions and misinformation if she is appearing.

So if she is appearing, it means the Bible is inaccurate and no one should believe anything in it, which would also mean that you should not believe Jesus was born to a virgin, or possibly never born at all, which means Mary would not be appearing to begin with.

Use your God given discernment here. You can't have it both ways. If Mary is appearing to people, then the Bible is inaccurate and you shouldn't believe it at all, which means you shouldn't believe it's Mary to begin with. The other option is that it is demonic deception appearing the form of Mary to confuse people and lead astray.

It has to be one way or the other, and only one way makes sense.
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"The other option is that it is demonic deception appearing the form of Mary to confuse people and lead astray."

Praying to anyone other than Jesus (God) is an abomination! Satan loves these deceptions.
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venerating and praying are two different things
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Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
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Let's think about this logically.

If the Virgin Mary was a human, a pure innocent lady that was chosen to be the mother of Jesus by immaculate conception....then she was still a human. She was not divine.

So if she was still a human and not a deity, she has no capability of appearing after she died according to the rest of the Bible, she is resting in "Abrahams bosoom" which makes the Bible full of contradictions and misinformation if she is appearing.

So if she is appearing, it means the Bible is inaccurate and no one should believe anything in it, which would also mean that you should not believe Jesus was born to a virgin, or possibly never born at all, which means Mary would not be appearing to begin with.

Use your God given discernment here. You can't have it both ways. If Mary is appearing to people, then the Bible is inaccurate and you shouldn't believe it at all, which means you shouldn't believe it's Mary to begin with. The other option is that it is demonic deception appearing the form of Mary to confuse people and lead astray.

It has to be one way or the other, and only one way makes sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70336455


"The other option is that it is demonic deception appearing the form of Mary to confuse people and lead astray."

Praying to anyone other than Jesus (God) is an abomination! Satan loves these deceptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


venerating and praying are two different things
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Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
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I am familiar with what they are doing yes and they are venerating not praying...
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I hope I cleared that up for you...

whether or not they are seeing Mary is not the point
the point is that you should not judge that which you are not certain of
it only hurts your own spirit and soul no one else
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We should reserve judgment of Benny Hinn as the bodies hit the floor then too?

Puhleese.
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I hope I cleared that up for you...

whether or not they are seeing Mary is not the point
the point is that you should not judge that which you are not certain of
it only hurts your own spirit and soul no one else
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We should reserve judgment of Benny Hinn as the bodies hit the floor then too?

Puhleese.
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I dont give money to preachers I give money to people in need so I dont know much about him
Im orthodox christian

puhlease yourself
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"The other option is that it is demonic deception appearing the form of Mary to confuse people and lead astray."

Praying to anyone other than Jesus (God) is an abomination! Satan loves these deceptions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


venerating and praying are two different things
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


I am familiar with what they are doing yes and they are venerating not praying...

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"Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen"

That's not veneration, anyway you try to spin it!
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venerating and praying are two different things
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


I am familiar with what they are doing yes and they are venerating not praying...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


"Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen"

That's not veneration, anyway you try to spin it!
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yes pray for US not we pray for for you...she is praying for us for God and Christ to answer and hear our prayers...
there is a difference
God answers ...we ask God to answer
Mary does not answer our prays she helps life them up
youre not that bright
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venerating and praying are two different things
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


I am familiar with what they are doing yes and they are venerating not praying...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


"Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen"

That's not veneration, anyway you try to spin it!
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Asking Her to pray for us sinners...
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Make sure you donate for those big buildings Jesus loves so much on the way out!

No praying in the closet where God rewards in secret! No, we're going to have a big show every week with cameras on this woman and Mary regularly comes to put on a show for everyone!

I could believe kids had something supernatural happen to them but then Mary puts on a show with them on a regular basis just like Disneyland?

lol
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Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the rosary. And also unfamiliar with Catholic teachings that encourage Mary's intersession when dealing with Jesus. If you can't see the deception here, then satan has done his job!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


I am familiar with what they are doing yes and they are venerating not praying...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77349451


"Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death Amen"

That's not veneration, anyway you try to spin it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77755236


yes pray for US not we pray for for you...she is praying for us for God and Christ to answer and hear our prayers...
there is a difference
God answers ...we ask God to answer
Mary does not answer our prays she helps life them up
youre not that bright
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Mary is another dead body. She is not divine. Any reason you cannot pray directly to Jesus? He needs a gatekeeper? Too busy to be bothered?
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Probably on the Popes pay rolls.
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"Judge no one."

Sounds like something that would appeal to Bergoglio.
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Judge No one, and Forgive thy Debtors....

I don't know quite what the last part means but I said it in a dream.
I don't know what I believe in in this point in my life, but I do believe in one thing.
The Creator.
Everything does not arrive from Nowhere.
All is from Eternity.
Illusion is separation. "Male, female" are really together in one body...the illusion is that we are apart.
The Creator is One, encompassed with an eternity of itself.
body is the universe.
Just as their is a ritual in human form for Marriage
their is a celebration in the all for completion.
It is when we can let go of the Darkness of the Illusion of being alone, that we are married to the spirit of forever with the creation in Oneness.

what I am confused still most in my life, is how can we have done this in just one lifetime...I think there have been many. and I wonder about things of my past lives, that I still can remember.
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right

"Martha, Martha," the Lord answered, "you are worried and upset about many things, but only one thing is needed. Mary has chosen what is better, and it will not be taken away from her."
LAYTON

(114) Simon Peter said to them, "Mary should leave us, for females are not worthy of life." Jesus said, "See, I am going to attract her to make her male so that she too might become a living spirit that resembles you males. For every female (element) that makes itself male will enter the kingdom of heaven."

what Christ means here is that we regardless of gender and our roles seek theKingdom of Heaven above all else abandon all else for the kingdom of God and all things iwll be given to us and rewarded 10 times over in heaven

yes...what gender we are is not the important thing the important thing is how we live and seek God
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I dreamt of once being a woman with a man inside of my body, and being a man, with a woman inside my body. Both times I was stumbling around searching for answers and when I was stumbling about I could not decipher what I truly was, because I felt both equally. The only thing I was concerned with was finding the word of God.
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Make sure you donate for those big buildings Jesus loves so much on the way out!

No praying in the closet where God rewards in secret! No, we're going to have a big show every week with cameras on this woman and Mary regularly comes to put on a show for everyone!

I could believe kids had something supernatural happen to them but then Mary puts on a show with them on a regular basis just like Disneyland?

lol
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Mary has been monetized.

Sad.
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Make sure you donate for those big buildings Jesus loves so much on the way out!

No praying in the closet where God rewards in secret! No, we're going to have a big show every week with cameras on this woman and Mary regularly comes to put on a show for everyone!

I could believe kids had something supernatural happen to them but then Mary puts on a show with them on a regular basis just like Disneyland?

lol
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Mary has been monetized.

Sad.
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Human nature will always try to make a buck. But like I said, that’s why it’s fo great I traveled there in the “early” days (1987) before your basic ABC CatholicsRUs travel agency started organizing old, gullible ladies etc over to Bosnia. I was there in the mud, the blood and the beer so to speak when there were no tourist gift shops, plastic Madonna for sake etc etc. Ehen I went back in 1998, there was a lot of commercialism but that was from the surrounding countryside goodies, mostly. The 6 visionaries have never taken a thin “dinar” (dime) from this and never will. Again, they don’t take it personally if you choose to not believe them. They are seeing Mary and it should be a warning to you.
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Brainwashed simps...
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Countryside gypsies. Stupid autocorrect, lol
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Brainwashed simps...
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Why would I bother to check it out in the early days as a skeptical investigative journalist if I was so “brainwashed”? Really??
Bebe
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Get a sharp stick.
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Medigore, where the Blessed Mother repeatedly tells Catholics things that defy Church dogmas. That is precisely the same sort of thing JPII taught via the Assisi prayer meetings and it all came about right at the same time. Convenient. Ratzinger was his right hand man too. Exercising power on his behalf.

I find it interesting how all these signs and wonders accompanied JPII's time especially considering his blatant apostasy from the faith and how he became the center of focus for the third secret of Fatima and it was case closed afterward so far as the vatican was concerned.

Since he is a "saint" now "Catholics" of the VII cult are bound to venerate him on pain of separation from the VII church.
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Mary stands in-between passion and faith.
She is allowed to because she will never choose one over the other, both are fulfillment, and not a wavering.
Mary is the heart of living life, and climbing the stairs to Heaven at the same time.

If people really truly used their common sense and listened to their hearts they would know that Nothing that is absolute LOVE would ever create that which wasn't apart of a plan, and do you think that the plan is to create evil so your creation can purposely fall?
I believe in my heart that the separation was intentional and over eternity creates oneness that is innumerable.
what we go through here on earth is the dark night of the soul where we are tested over and over. Allowed over, and over to create amongst ourselves and make decisions
that will lead to chaos sometimes, and other times golden ages.

There is no such thing as death.
it is but the biggest lie, to keep us from reaching our potential and we do it to ourselves. We created that lie.
by believing that it was true.

for the record this is just what I believe. Just as with life, things change and feeling's change, this is just what I believe right now..and it feels right.
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Make sure you donate for those big buildings Jesus loves so much on the way out!

No praying in the closet where God rewards in secret! No, we're going to have a big show every week with cameras on this woman and Mary regularly comes to put on a show for everyone!

I could believe kids had something supernatural happen to them but then Mary puts on a show with them on a regular basis just like Disneyland?

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76861653


Mary has been monetized.

Sad.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76861653


Human nature will always try to make a buck. But like I said, that’s why it’s fo great I traveled there in the “early” days (1987) before your basic ABC CatholicsRUs travel agency started organizing old, gullible ladies etc over to Bosnia. I was there in the mud, the blood and the beer so to speak when there were no tourist gift shops, plastic Madonna for sake etc etc. Ehen I went back in 1998, there was a lot of commercialism but that was from the surrounding countryside goodies, mostly. The 6 visionaries have never taken a thin “dinar” (dime) from this and never will. Again, they don’t take it personally if you choose to not believe them. They are seeing Mary and it should be a warning to you.
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I seriously doubt Mary would say something that was not in agreement with God.

God does not listen to all his children. He tunes them out if he wants to and it says that in the bible.

And here she is giving out goody two shoes pablum and saying it's from Mary.
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All this is whoring goddess worship!
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All this is whoring goddess worship!
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Do you not believe that the Woman is the glory, the brightnes beautifulness, of Man?
Just as is man the strength, the power, the authority of a woman?

If at peace, and one with each other, both sides are equal and they can put everything they are with each other, and all attributes of themselves are ONE.
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When both are united, it is..
Harmony, abundance, and love.
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All this is whoring goddess worship!
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Do you not believe that the Woman is the glory, the brightnes beautifulness, of Man?
Just as is man the strength, the power, the authority of a woman?

If at peace, and one with each other, both sides are equal and they can put everything they are with each other, and all attributes of themselves are ONE.
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as written in the word in the kingdom man is like the angels
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All this is whoring goddess worship!
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Do you not believe that the Woman is the glory, the brightnes beautifulness, of Man?
Just as is man the strength, the power, the authority of a woman?

If at peace, and one with each other, both sides are equal and they can put everything they are with each other, and all attributes of themselves are ONE.
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PLEASE do NOT bring your New Age psycho babble about the equality of sexes into this discussion. In the CONTRARY: The Blessed Mother is the first to deny herself, she is the epitome of humility. Kiss off, SATAN.
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Medigore, where the Blessed Mother repeatedly tells Catholics things that defy Church dogmas. That is precisely the same sort of thing JPII taught via the Assisi prayer meetings and it all came about right at the same time. Convenient. Ratzinger was his right hand man too. Exercising power on his behalf.

I find it interesting how all these signs and wonders accompanied JPII's time especially considering his blatant apostasy from the faith and how he became the center of focus for the third secret of Fatima and it was case closed afterward so far as the vatican was concerned.

Since he is a "saint" now "Catholics" of the VII cult are bound to venerate him on pain of separation from the VII church.
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Shut up, Satan. John Paul II is a GIANT of a saint and is probably praying for your sorry soul as we speak. There is no “pain of separation” from the Church if one chooses not to venerate a saint. We’re not Mormons, you nimbicile!!
Bebe
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PLEASE do NOT bring your New Age psycho babble about the equality of sexes into this discussion. In the CONTRARY: The Blessed Mother is the first to deny herself, she is the epitome of humility. Kiss off, SATAN.
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Shut up, Satan. John Paul II is a GIANT of a saint and is probably praying for your sorry soul as we speak. There is no “pain of separation” from the Church if one chooses not to venerate a saint. We’re not Mormons, you nimbicile!!
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Don’t judge conversations are always humorous.

chuckle
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Hardy har har. Like I said, the pit is calling you back, Satan. Be running along now like the coward you are.
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All this is whoring goddess worship!
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Do you not believe that the Woman is the glory, the brightnes beautifulness, of Man?
Just as is man the strength, the power, the authority of a woman?

If at peace, and one with each other, both sides are equal and they can put everything they are with each other, and all attributes of themselves are ONE.
 Quoting: m 77401566


PLEASE do NOT bring your New Age psycho babble about the equality of sexes into this discussion. In the CONTRARY: The Blessed Mother is the first to deny herself, she is the epitome of humility. Kiss off, SATAN.
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do you store up fruit for yourself, knowing that others are hungry?
If someone is considered Blessed, don't you think that they believe that this blessedness could to be the same for everyone?
why would all of eternity be revolved around one person that did something that was considered a miracle..?
if we all listen to the voice of god, and adhere would we not also be considered just as blessed?
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Hardy har har. Like I said, the pit is calling you back, Satan. Be running along now like the coward you are.
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HOW DARE YOU!!!

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