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Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?

 
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Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I'm curious because i have a buseniss plan here that basically guarantees a 20% return on each $10 invested on let's say a minimal total budget of atleast 50k. I'm wondering since alot of capitalists are on this forum so is that an attractive offer if you consider investing in a start-up?

If not what is it that you are looking for in an investment and what can i do to make it more desirable when i actually decide to go for it?
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Yeah. I would.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor

Last Edited by 589 on 11/07/2019 07:41 PM
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77731266


Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok since the practice is unclear in the law as it is
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The risk/ reward is off balance....
So no.
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11/07/2019 07:42 PM
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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11/07/2019 07:46 PM

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sounds too good to be true. So it must be too good to be true.
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That's good though, that means i can probably offer less return on investment.

Is 10% considered too good to be true? What is reasonable, what does the average investor expect?

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Hell no it ain't too much. My question would be how soon am I getting my money back.
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11/07/2019 07:48 PM
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
No such thing as a startup with a guaranteed return
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11/07/2019 08:07 PM

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Hell no it ain't too much. My question would be how soon am I getting my money back.
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The returns would be each quarter and i would integrate the option in the contract to pull-out the entire investment each 6 months.

So that's a really good deal right?
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11/07/2019 08:17 PM

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I had invested in something which gave me 50 % return.Then again in same thing and 150 % return. :) Should I spill the beans and tell you what was that investment ?
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11/07/2019 08:20 PM

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
are you from the netherlands? Or a nigerian prince that wants me to open a bank account so they can send me all their money?
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
are you from the netherlands? Or a nigerian prince that wants me to open a bank account so they can send me all their money?
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Lol, no don't worry i'm not after your money really looking for advice only. Besides i would be looking for an investor here in the Netherlands not the USA. It would complicate things way to much.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
do you have to pay 20% tax on those profits?...
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I had invested in something which gave me 50 % return.Then again in same thing and 150 % return. :) Should I spill the beans and tell you what was that investment ?
 Quoting: Gaude Mater Polonia


Let me take a wild guess, crypto.
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11/07/2019 08:33 PM
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sure but there’s plenty of stocks that have guaranteed return of 5% -8.5%

We just have to double our investment
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
If you can get a 10% return you should have offered a 6-8% return and kept the extra for yourself...you never offer a round number..
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Sure but there’s plenty of stocks that have guaranteed return of 5% -8.5%

We just have to double our investment
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If you're really good with the stock market power to you, but my guess is that for most people it doesn't bring continious income like a buseniss can

If you can get a 10% return you should have offered a 6-8% return and kept the extra for yourself...you never offer a round number..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78099988


That's the type of advice i'm looking for. I need to be prepared and know what i am doing and not appear like a rookie. Any other advice or know any books?

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I had invested in something which gave me 50 % return.Then again in same thing and 150 % return. :) Should I spill the beans and tell you what was that investment ?
 Quoting: Gaude Mater Polonia


Let me take a wild guess, crypto.
 Quoting: 589


Nope.Gemstones mostly in rough form.I didn't sell all my gems .I have 2300 carats left from 3100 tanzania gemstones.Now I bought sapphires and I'm taking them at the gem show on November 9th :) It takes time and skills to sell them but reward is amazing :)
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
I had invested in something which gave me 50 % return.Then again in same thing and 150 % return. :) Should I spill the beans and tell you what was that investment ?
 Quoting: Gaude Mater Polonia


Let me take a wild guess, crypto.
 Quoting: 589


Nope.Gemstones mostly in rough form.I didn't sell all my gems .I have 2300 carats left from 3100 tanzania gemstones.Now I bought sapphires and I'm taking them at the gem show on November 9th :) It takes time and skills to sell them but reward is amazing :)
 Quoting: Gaude Mater Polonia


I didnt see that coming lol. Don't worry i will not be trading gems now that you shared your secret. Hats off to you man
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11/07/2019 09:11 PM
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
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40% annually? It is a scam. Not possible to guarantee a return that is remotely close to that.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77731266


Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
 Quoting: 589


40% annually? It is a scam. Not possible to guarantee a return that is remotely close to that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77137727


Op might want to look up the definition of, "guarantee"
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
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Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
 Quoting: 589


40% annually? It is a scam. Not possible to guarantee a return that is remotely close to that.
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I'll be eager to prove you wrong but i need green light from the ministry of finance here first
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11/07/2019 09:58 PM

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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
WTF....

Why is this even on GLP?


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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
Madoff and Enron had better guarantees than 10%.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77731266


Each 3 months i would be able to guarantee a 10% return on each $10 invested. So that's a guaranteed (minimal) 5k on a 50k investment each quarter. I dont think it's that bad but at the same time 50k is real money and an investor might expect more than that..

But the expectations are much more than that when i show the market research/target audience. The above is a minimal expectation.

Im still waiting for the government to give me an ok though since the practice is unclear in the law as it is. But just anxious to know what a desirable offer is for an investor
 Quoting: 589


Sure, but I wouldn't invest in most businesses that "guarantee" a return unless its like an annuity or something government backed or money is in cash assets to cover the guarantee. That's a dangerous word, don't use it in your Offering Memorandum to avoid a lawsuit.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
WTF....

Why is this even on GLP?


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Lots of people on glp are into buseniss and money

Sure, but I wouldn't invest in most businesses that "guarantee" a return unless its like an annuity or something government backed or money is in cash assets to cover the guarantee. That's a dangerous word, don't use it in your Offering Memorandum to avoid a lawsuit.
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Again exactly what im looking for, i need all the advice i can get. Im a sponge
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do you have to pay 20% tax on those profits?...
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28%
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
WTF....

Why is this even on GLP?


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Lots of people on glp are into buseniss and money

Sure, but I wouldn't invest in most businesses that "guarantee" a return unless its like an annuity or something government backed or money is in cash assets to cover the guarantee. That's a dangerous word, don't use it in your Offering Memorandum to avoid a lawsuit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73347240


Again exactly what im looking for, i need all the advice i can get. Im a sponge
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spoonge or not, gl with the offering.
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Re: Capitalists, would you invest in something with a guaranteed 10% return?
OP,

The true answer depends upon the risk. If there is high risk, hell no. If low risk, I'd look seriously at it.

My folks in the US think they will be getting rich selling legal Weed - I've been offered several partnerships. Risk was too high and, in my opinion, the expected returns were over optimistic.

risk is the important factor.





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