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The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force

 
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History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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Doomed by the materiel superiority of the US, the manpower superiority of the USSR, and the stupidity to move deep into old Russia during the winter.
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History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions.
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Doomed by the materiel superiority of the US, the manpower superiority of the USSR, and the stupidity to move deep into old Russia during the winter.
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This is true. Germany's greatest enemy during the war was Hitler himself, a fact that Rommel and other German patriots realized only too late. But this does not change the fact that the Germans were the best of the best and were only defeated with the combined might of two superpowers.
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History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions.
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why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west.
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History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions.
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why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west.
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and the mongols run west ended at german territory.
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Your life would be a million times better if those men had won.

Instead your g0y!m being used and tossed away.
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History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions.
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why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west.
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Battle of the Teutoburg Forest:

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They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads.
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They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads.
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They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads.
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There is some truth to that, but it is largely a myth. Yes, the Nazis studied and experimented with meth and other enhancers (as did every nation involved with the war). But the fact remains: these drugs (like all drugs) degrade, not enhance, a soldiers performance. I remember encountering insurgents in Fallujah who were jacked on similar cocktails: yes, they did not feel the pain and took multiple shots to neutralize but, no, they did not perform better or make better decisions in combat. In fact the opposite was true.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth tounge

The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war.

The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth tounge

The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war.

The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong.
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They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy:

Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
The title should read:
"The most easily MANIPULATED and lacking in morals fighting force of WW2"


German soldiers were on board lock stock and barrel with expanding out from Germany not just to take over other people's lands /countries but to also kill not only foreign Soldiers but all Civilians who got in their way, and to do that killing with NO remorse.

The murdering of Civilians on the Eastern Font during the invasion of first Eastern Europe and then Ukraine and Russia itself was unparalleled in modern times, and the German Soldiers had no problem with that. When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper.

I am 1/2 German, but there is something in the German psychic that CRAVES being part of a large organized group that kills others in a very organized manner. It is still there to this day in fact (imo), which is why Margaret Thatcher was very vocal that she was NOT in favor of German Reunification in the event that East Germany would collapse.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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Also, try the Athenians, Spartans and Macedonians who fought and won battles vastly outnumbered. Oh yeah, these guys won that's why Greek was the 1st lingua franca. German was never a lingua franca (Latin and English being the other 2) and these guys lost. Stone cold losers really.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads.
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There is some truth to that, but it is largely a myth. Yes, the Nazis studied and experimented with meth and other enhancers (as did every nation involved with the war). But the fact remains: these drugs (like all drugs) degrade, not enhance, a soldiers performance. I remember encountering insurgents in Fallujah who were jacked on similar cocktails: yes, they did not feel the pain and took multiple shots to neutralize but, no, they did not perform better or make better decisions in combat. In fact the opposite was true.
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meth is still put in pilots survival kit.
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Burt, what did Eli ask Tyree?
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions.
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Also, try the Athenians, Spartans and Macedonians who fought and won battles vastly outnumbered. Oh yeah, these guys won that's why Greek was the 1st lingua franca. German was never a lingua franca (Latin and English being the other 2) and these guys lost. Stone cold losers really.
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English comes from GERMAN. ANGLEland England.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth tounge

The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war.

The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong.
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Finland lost the winter war. How much land did you give up to end it?
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper.
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Germany was decimated by the allies and soviets.
The Soviets sent 3 million German war prisoners to Siberia that never returned. Worked(or froze) to death.
The German women(and girls) were systematically raped and beaten.
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Well Burt, what kind of child is Tyree raising?

I sure hope it is not another Arizona, I do not have enough weed for that.


Keep up the good work, whatever that is. stoner
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
The title should read:
"The most easily MANIPULATED and lacking in morals fighting force of WW2"


German soldiers were on board lock stock and barrel with expanding out from Germany not just to take over other people's lands /countries but to also kill not only foreign Soldiers but all Civilians who got in their way, and to do that killing with NO remorse.

The murdering of Civilians on the Eastern Font during the invasion of first Eastern Europe and then Ukraine and Russia itself was unparalleled in modern times, and the German Soldiers had no problem with that. When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper.

I am 1/2 German, but there is something in the German psychic that CRAVES being part of a large organized group that kills others in a very organized manner. It is still there to this day in fact (imo), which is why Margaret Thatcher was very vocal that she was NOT in favor of German Reunification in the event that East Germany would collapse.
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LMAO russian soldiers "refrained" from brutal payback?
you getting $3.50 for that post? Paid by the propaganda minister?
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germany was a great country and Nazism destroyed it
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Some of them were excellent soldiers, but for the most part the Germans had average soldiers with an excellent leadership.

Also having a huge industrial base really helped, as invading unprepared weaker countries.



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For some reason the "industrial" argument is often used to explain why the South lost the U.S. Civil War, but the same argument is often absent as to why explaining the Germans defeating a bunch of smaller and much poorer countries.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
The Whermacht was the greatest fighting force the world had ever seen. The German war doctrine, to this day, is still adopted by many of the world's militaries. They were far ahead of their time, using methods never before implemented, equipped with technology never before experienced on the scale that would be the battlegrounds of World War 2. There was reason to be overconfident, no one could stop them, and took the combined force of three world powers to bring them to a kneel, even then the German people would not surrender, even at the brink of defeat. Many proud and brave men fought, as well as died in those times, but a remnant always lives on. The German armies were honorable, and courageous soldiers. May their legacy live on forever. Our honor is loyalty. God with us. And just for the record, the German high command, as well as the average everyday civilian never wanted a war with America. It was the British that can be thanked for that!
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Some of them were excellent soldiers, but for the most part the Germans had average soldiers with an excellent leadership.

Also having a huge industrial base really helped, as invading unprepared weaker countries.



[link to michalw.narod.ru]




For some reason the "industrial" argument is often used to explain why the South lost the U.S. Civil War, but the same argument is often absent as to why explaining the Germans defeating a bunch of smaller and much poorer countries.
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France was prepared, ready ( maginot line, and had the top army at the time. They also even got the plans for the german invasion in Jan of 1940 (mechelen incident, see link below). And they still got rolled.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth tounge

The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war.

The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong.
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They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy:

Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II
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The best soldier of WWII was a native Siberian sniper who served in the Red Army.

He probably killed over 1 000 Axis troops, but officially he was credited with around 450 confirmed kills (sorry, I no longer remember the precise number).

One Man Army, a single guy killing over 1 000 with a rifle.
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I will deal with Sean and his million dollar skank after a smoke break.
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Re: The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force
Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth tounge

The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war.

The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong.
 Quoting: Draugen


They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy:

Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II
 Quoting: Malu nli



The best soldier of WWII was a native Siberian sniper who served in the Red Army.

He probably killed over 1 000 Axis troops, but officially he was credited with around 450 confirmed kills (sorry, I no longer remember the precise number).

One Man Army, a single guy killing over 1 000 with a rifle.
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That’s what you get with a country boy. Carlos Hathcock was another example. One man one rifle , big balls





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