The German Soldier of WWII: history's most formidable fighting force | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78153520 United States 11/09/2019 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doomed by the materiel superiority of the US, the manpower superiority of the USSR, and the stupidity to move deep into old Russia during the winter. This is true. Germany's greatest enemy during the war was Hitler himself, a fact that Rommel and other German patriots realized only too late. But this does not change the fact that the Germans were the best of the best and were only defeated with the combined might of two superpowers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77797825 The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions. why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77797825 The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions. why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west. and the mongols run west ended at german territory. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78153520 United States 11/09/2019 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77797825 The Germans fought with the Roman legions on many occasions. A German cohort was particularly influential in 70AD, fighting with distinction alongside Titus' Roman legions. why german isn't a romance language? Because tribal germans kicked the shit out of the romans. Then in the end, took all of roman territory in the west. Battle of the Teutoburg Forest: [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78153520 United States 11/09/2019 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958201 There is some truth to that, but it is largely a myth. Yes, the Nazis studied and experimented with meth and other enhancers (as did every nation involved with the war). But the fact remains: these drugs (like all drugs) degrade, not enhance, a soldiers performance. I remember encountering insurgents in Fallujah who were jacked on similar cocktails: yes, they did not feel the pain and took multiple shots to neutralize but, no, they did not perform better or make better decisions in combat. In fact the opposite was true. |
Draugen User ID: 45204259 Norway 11/09/2019 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war. The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong. |
Malu nli User ID: 78152858 United States 11/09/2019 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth Quoting: Draugen The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war. The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong. They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy: Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77556714 United States 11/09/2019 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The title should read: "The most easily MANIPULATED and lacking in morals fighting force of WW2" German soldiers were on board lock stock and barrel with expanding out from Germany not just to take over other people's lands /countries but to also kill not only foreign Soldiers but all Civilians who got in their way, and to do that killing with NO remorse. The murdering of Civilians on the Eastern Font during the invasion of first Eastern Europe and then Ukraine and Russia itself was unparalleled in modern times, and the German Soldiers had no problem with that. When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper. I am 1/2 German, but there is something in the German psychic that CRAVES being part of a large organized group that kills others in a very organized manner. It is still there to this day in fact (imo), which is why Margaret Thatcher was very vocal that she was NOT in favor of German Reunification in the event that East Germany would collapse. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They were fueled by methamphetamine. The bliztkrieg was successful because meth kept them awake for days so they could plow through without rest. These soldiers were meth heads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75958201 There is some truth to that, but it is largely a myth. Yes, the Nazis studied and experimented with meth and other enhancers (as did every nation involved with the war). But the fact remains: these drugs (like all drugs) degrade, not enhance, a soldiers performance. I remember encountering insurgents in Fallujah who were jacked on similar cocktails: yes, they did not feel the pain and took multiple shots to neutralize but, no, they did not perform better or make better decisions in combat. In fact the opposite was true. meth is still put in pilots survival kit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History's most formidable fighting force? Lmfao. Try the Mongols or the Roman legions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77797825 English comes from GERMAN. ANGLEland England. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth Quoting: Draugen The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war. The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong. Finland lost the winter war. How much land did you give up to end it? |
Draugen User ID: 45204259 Norway 11/09/2019 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77556714 Germany was decimated by the allies and soviets. The Soviets sent 3 million German war prisoners to Siberia that never returned. Worked(or froze) to death. The German women(and girls) were systematically raped and beaten. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The title should read: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77556714 "The most easily MANIPULATED and lacking in morals fighting force of WW2" German soldiers were on board lock stock and barrel with expanding out from Germany not just to take over other people's lands /countries but to also kill not only foreign Soldiers but all Civilians who got in their way, and to do that killing with NO remorse. The murdering of Civilians on the Eastern Font during the invasion of first Eastern Europe and then Ukraine and Russia itself was unparalleled in modern times, and the German Soldiers had no problem with that. When you look at what the Germans did to everyday Russians it is amazing that Russian soldiers refrained from engaging in a brutal "payback" revenge killing spree once they finally entered Germany proper. I am 1/2 German, but there is something in the German psychic that CRAVES being part of a large organized group that kills others in a very organized manner. It is still there to this day in fact (imo), which is why Margaret Thatcher was very vocal that she was NOT in favor of German Reunification in the event that East Germany would collapse. LMAO russian soldiers "refrained" from brutal payback? you getting $3.50 for that post? Paid by the propaganda minister? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77835495 Canada 11/09/2019 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of them were excellent soldiers, but for the most part the Germans had average soldiers with an excellent leadership. Also having a huge industrial base really helped, as invading unprepared weaker countries. [link to michalw.narod.ru] For some reason the "industrial" argument is often used to explain why the South lost the U.S. Civil War, but the same argument is often absent as to why explaining the Germans defeating a bunch of smaller and much poorer countries. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78152174 United States 11/09/2019 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of them were excellent soldiers, but for the most part the Germans had average soldiers with an excellent leadership. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77835495 Also having a huge industrial base really helped, as invading unprepared weaker countries. [link to michalw.narod.ru] For some reason the "industrial" argument is often used to explain why the South lost the U.S. Civil War, but the same argument is often absent as to why explaining the Germans defeating a bunch of smaller and much poorer countries. France was prepared, ready ( maginot line, and had the top army at the time. They also even got the plans for the german invasion in Jan of 1940 (mechelen incident, see link below). And they still got rolled. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77835495 Canada 11/09/2019 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth Quoting: Draugen The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war. The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong. They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy: Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II The best soldier of WWII was a native Siberian sniper who served in the Red Army. He probably killed over 1 000 Axis troops, but officially he was credited with around 450 confirmed kills (sorry, I no longer remember the precise number). One Man Army, a single guy killing over 1 000 with a rifle. |
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Malu nli User ID: 78152858 United States 11/09/2019 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Germans? Meh. Everyone knows the Finns during the Winter War were the most badass fighting force ever to walk this Earth Quoting: Draugen The tiny country singlehandedly grinded the Soviet war machine to a halt in a brutal defensive war. The result of the Winter War was probably the reason Hitler decided that attacking Russia would be easy. Boy was he wrong. They had the top women snipers in the world and this guy: Simo Hayha. Simo Häyhä, also known as “The White Death” is widely regarded as the most skilled and successful sniper there ever was, with over 500 kills to his name. He helped defend Finland from the Soviets during World War II The best soldier of WWII was a native Siberian sniper who served in the Red Army. He probably killed over 1 000 Axis troops, but officially he was credited with around 450 confirmed kills (sorry, I no longer remember the precise number). One Man Army, a single guy killing over 1 000 with a rifle. That’s what you get with a country boy. Carlos Hathcock was another example. One man one rifle , big balls |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77835495 Canada 11/09/2019 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some of them were excellent soldiers, but for the most part the Germans had average soldiers with an excellent leadership. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77835495 Also having a huge industrial base really helped, as invading unprepared weaker countries. [link to michalw.narod.ru] For some reason the "industrial" argument is often used to explain why the South lost the U.S. Civil War, but the same argument is often absent as to why explaining the Germans defeating a bunch of smaller and much poorer countries. France was prepared, ready ( maginot line, and had the top army at the time. They also even got the plans for the german invasion in Jan of 1940 (mechelen incident, see link below). And they still got rolled. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Only you forgot to mention that the Maginot Line did not cover the border with Belgium, and the Germans got really lucky bypassing it in the Ardennes. But I partially agree, the German victory against France was the only very impressive Wehrmacht accomplishment of the Second World War. One could also make arguments in favor of the German military being impressive for its conquests of Norway and Crete, due to these being logistically difficult. By the way, conquest of Norway was apparently Hitler's idea, and his generals were mostly against it. I guess he was not entirely a bad military strategist. |