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Proof that faith in Jesus alone, and belief in Him as the Son of God, can save you.

 
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In both renditions (Mark & Luke) of a woman healed by Jesus, Jesus didn't actively, or directly address the woman to make her be healed. In fact He didn't even know who touched Him, He just knew that healing power had left Him.

So it was the woman's belief in Jesus alone, and faith in Him as the Son of God, that healed her.


Mark 5:30-34

(30) And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, "Who touched My clothes?" (31) But His disciples said to Him, "You see the multitude thronging You, and You say, "Who touched Me?"" (32) And He looked around to see her who had done this thing. (33) But the woman, fearing and trembling, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth. (34) And He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction."

Luke 8:45-48

(45) And Jesus said, "Who touched Me?" When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, "Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, "Who touched Me?"" (46) But Jesus said, "Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me." (47) Now when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling; and falling down before Him, she declared to Him in the presence of all the people the reason she had touched Him and how she was healed immediately. (48) And He said to her, "Daughter, be of good cheer; your faith has made you well. Go in peace."
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He did know. He only asked the question for the purpose of teaching, just like He asked lots of questions that He already knew the answer to.

"All His works are known to Him from the beginning."
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
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2 wolves. 1 choice/rule.
When the one great scorer comes to write against your name, he writes not that you won or lost but how you played the game.

The stance and stare of a wolf you find yourself alone with will tell you that he is prepared to treat you as you would treat him. Whether that comforts or frightens you, he has told you all you need know about both.
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Re: Proof that faith in Jesus alone, and belief in Him as the Son of God, can save you.
In both renditions (Mark & Luke) of a woman healed by Jesus, Jesus didn't actively, or directly address the woman to make her be healed. In fact He didn't even know who touched Him, He just knew that healing power had left Him.

So it was the woman's belief in Jesus alone, and faith in Him as the Son of God, that healed her.


Mark 5:30-34

(30) And Jesus, immediately knowing in Himself that power had gone out of Him, turned around in the crowd and said, "Who touched My clothes?" (31) But His disciples said to Him, "You see the multitude thronging You, and You say, "Who touched Me?"" (32) And He looked around to see her who had done this thing. (33) But the woman, fearing and trembling, knowing what had happened to her, came and fell down before Him and told Him the whole truth. (34) And He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well. Go in peace, and be healed of your affliction."

Luke 8:45-48

(45) And Jesus said, "Who touched Me?" When all denied it, Peter and those with him said, "Master, the multitudes throng and press You, and You say, "Who touched Me?"" (46) But Jesus said, "Somebody touched Me, for I perceived power going out from Me." (47) Now when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling; and falling down before Him, she declared to Him in the presence of all the people the reason she had touched Him and how she was healed immediately. (48) And He said to her, "Daughter, be of good cheer; your faith has made you well. Go in peace."
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Heres some more proof for you.

No one cares about your dogmatic ideals.

Stop pushing them on other people, for a start.

Just stfu.


K?

K.
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Oh and btw.

Nine of the bullshit you posted is "truth."

Copy and pasting scriptures means nothing.


I can copy and paste anything I read.

Doesn't mean it's TRUE.



But you are a true Christian right?


So you can never do wrong.


Lmao.



You religious people are fucking hilarious.
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Dogmatic brainwashed morons.
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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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Ah so believing in someone you've never met guarantees you a place in heaven?


Im so glad I dont know you in real life.

Cause I would talk circles around you and your shitty beliefs.


God damn retard.
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Your argument is circular. It's like using the Koran to prove the validity of Islam. Dumb.
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Re: Proof that faith in Jesus alone, and belief in Him as the Son of God, can save you.
There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
 Quoting: Eyem 13877125


Actually, it's you, who is the retard.

You THINK you know who Yeshua despises, and yet, you totally deny what Yeshua said HIMSELF, about those who believe and are saved, verses those who do not believe, and are condemned.

Best of luck, with your Hindu "deity".
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Your argument is circular. It's like using the Koran to prove the validity of Islam. Dumb.
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Re: Proof that faith in Jesus alone, and belief in Him as the Son of God, can save you.
There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
 Quoting: Eyem 13877125


The wisdom of this world is foolishness....and you prove that with your post.

The man who starts of his rebuttal with a person "is great by their works" is already in denial of the whole Christian gospel - that we are saved by grace through faith, not of works lest any man should BOAST

You literally can't see it.
So tell the world then upon WHAT basis should we all be judged? Come on now, tell us. You will say by his works. And in that case we would ALL BE DEAD MEN WALKING
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Re: Proof that faith in Jesus alone, and belief in Him as the Son of God, can save you.
There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
 Quoting: Eyem 13877125


Actually, it's you, who is the retard.

You THINK you know who Yeshua despises, and yet, you totally deny what Yeshua said HIMSELF, about those who believe and are saved, verses those who do not believe, and are condemned.

Best of luck, with your Hindu "deity".
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Why is a Hindu diety any less real than your Christian deity?
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There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
 Quoting: Eyem 13877125


Actually, it's you, who is the retard.

You THINK you know who Yeshua despises, and yet, you totally deny what Yeshua said HIMSELF, about those who believe and are saved, verses those who do not believe, and are condemned.

Best of luck, with your Hindu "deity".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78135120

Exactly. Simple as that. Jesus said HIMSELF what grant you salvation. What is to debate here? Paul also few times repeats words of Jesus. Jesus revealed HIMSELF to Paul.

And yeah, I am Christian, I am sinner but I don't rape or kill... We are saved by grace through Faith in Jesus. Amen.
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The Hebrew messiah could not have been any polytheist, stupid pagans!

It is either the Old Testament God or none.


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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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SAVED FROM WHAT? Why is it that no one can answer that question?
"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change"
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Exactly. Simple as that. Jesus said HIMSELF what grant you salvation. What is to debate here? Paul also few times repeats words of Jesus. Jesus revealed HIMSELF to Paul.

And yeah, I am Christian, I am sinner but I don't rape or kill... We are saved by grace through Faith in Jesus. Amen.
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And you really believe that you have to be dead to be rewarded?? Seriously?!? “Oh, wait until you die! Then you’ll be rewarded! Trust me!” Oh, my aching sides
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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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SAVED FROM WHAT? Why is it that no one can answer that question?
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Saved from eternal death.
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Oh and btw.

Nine of the bullshit you posted is "truth."

Copy and pasting scriptures means nothing.


I can copy and paste anything I read.

Doesn't mean it's TRUE.



But you are a true Christian right?


So you can never do wrong.


Lmao.



You religious people are fucking hilarious.
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If you think they're wrong, why do you hate on them? You should feel sorry for them, instead, and try to enlighten them to your "real" truth.
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don't need saving, . .
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There is a special place for you Christians...


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Indeed, in Church!
A public forum is not a Church.
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NO faith in something more in the creation is what saves YOU..... There for for Christ's sake 5.6 trillion worlds with humans on them... Christ is NOT 2nd person Trinity and this is the only planet he was incarnated on.

IT IS YOUR OWN BUDDING FAITH THAT SAVES YOU..... and nOTHING Else.

Christ Jesus is the Creator and organizer of this LOCAL SECTOR of the creation called Nebadon. You must after you save yourself.. go thru his universal schools.. which will transform you from animal into a spirit being. And you don't take these suit of combustible meat with you.

This garbage preached in Christianity... is a huge cause of war and unrest on this world. You are not special just because you belong to a mind controlled organization. All of FAITH are special.

And the TRUTH is ever so much more glorious and you have been denied it... that the propaganda. paarticularly the satanic blood propaganda... you are not covered in his blood.. but his SPIRIT OF TRUTH. Which was poured out of all flesh.. there was not Christian flesh yet. I am being IN YOUR FACES FOR A REASOn.. because you ones while many do have faith are missing the boat otherwise.

Muslims.. buddhists.... and those with no religion as just as saved when Faith develops. Eternal LIFE is a choice. Eternity is a huge portion of FAITH... when you have Faith you have ponder eternity.Keep Calm.. Ask

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Pray for the SAFETY of TRUMP and Family going forward

HELL FIRE is a good thing... it means

HavingEverLastingLIFE... FieryIntelligenceReasonatingETERNALLY.

Now this is the age where people will remain copy cat followers who DO NOT REASON.. or they will be begin finding the eternal Fiery intelligence...

The choice of remaining IGNORANT or growing your mind is before you. Growing your minds is eternal. Ignorance leads to dead ends.


111:1.6 (1217.1) Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good—actually great—in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being. [link to www.urantia.org (secure)]


Our Father, You who have dwelt within us in this incarnation, we give Thee thanks for Your perpetual presence and the continuous guidance of Your Light within, even in those times when we could not see or know. How we bless this our experience acknowledging that where we are now is a credit to the extent that we allowed you to manifest within and through our lives. We glorify in the sanctuary of our inner light as we take these last steps that will gain us entry into our new world. Be with us even and ever more that our inner awareness may assume a greater dimension of knowing and purpose as we transcend and transition into new grounds that will earn us and offer us opportunities to further bridge the divide between physical and spiritual. As we bid goodbye, we do so in love and gratitude and we look forward to creating spiritual sentiments going forward, that which last eternally. From AA Uriel
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For all the nay sayers

Your choise to not believe

Is based on as much faith

As those that do believe

At least take that into your considerations
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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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Don’t live by that rule and don’t mislead people with it. It’s not productive.
You need to remember the bait and switch warning that is in the Bible:
Matthew 25:31-40
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For all the nay sayers

Your choise to not believe

Is based on as much faith

As those that do believe

At least take that into your considerations
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76594256


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Pray for the SAFETY of TRUMP and Family going forward

HELL FIRE is a good thing... it means

HavingEverLastingLIFE... FieryIntelligenceReasonatingETERNALLY.

Now this is the age where people will remain copy cat followers who DO NOT REASON.. or they will be begin finding the eternal Fiery intelligence...

The choice of remaining IGNORANT or growing your mind is before you. Growing your minds is eternal. Ignorance leads to dead ends.


111:1.6 (1217.1) Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good—actually great—in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being. [link to www.urantia.org (secure)]


Our Father, You who have dwelt within us in this incarnation, we give Thee thanks for Your perpetual presence and the continuous guidance of Your Light within, even in those times when we could not see or know. How we bless this our experience acknowledging that where we are now is a credit to the extent that we allowed you to manifest within and through our lives. We glorify in the sanctuary of our inner light as we take these last steps that will gain us entry into our new world. Be with us even and ever more that our inner awareness may assume a greater dimension of knowing and purpose as we transcend and transition into new grounds that will earn us and offer us opportunities to further bridge the divide between physical and spiritual. As we bid goodbye, we do so in love and gratitude and we look forward to creating spiritual sentiments going forward, that which last eternally. From AA Uriel
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For all the nay sayers

Your choise to not believe

Is based on as much faith

As those that do believe

At least take that into your considerations
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 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


It takes faith to believe

It takes faith to not believe

If you are a fence sitter like Tomas was

Reading the book helps bring faith
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There is a special place for you Christians...

Be a terrible person by your works, kill, rape, whatever but along as you believe in Christ you are saved???

Be a great person by your works and you believe in a Hindu deity so you are going to hell?

You Christians are spiritually the dumb of the dumb. Yeshua despises your lack of logic, love and ignorance!
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Christ spoke in parables so the damned wouldn't understand. I'm not going to explain how and why you are wrong because based on your comments, it appears that you may be damned.

You'll have eternity to figure out how you got played
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Anyway, we are saved by Faith in Christ. Not by works. Works is pointless for God.
Anyone who believes in Christ will be saved. Period.
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SAVED FROM WHAT? Why is it that no one can answer that question?
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From eternal death
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Oh and btw.

Nine of the bullshit you posted is "truth."

Copy and pasting scriptures means nothing.


I can copy and paste anything I read.

Doesn't mean it's TRUE.



But you are a true Christian right?


So you can never do wrong.


Lmao.



You religious people are fucking hilarious.
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If you think they're wrong, why do you hate on them? You should feel sorry for them, instead, and try to enlighten them to your "real" truth.
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You don't dictate how I should "feel", nor whom I interact with and on what level, you filthy commie fascist.

Your reality is yours.
My reality is mine.
His reality is his.
Got it?

Now FUCK OFF with your lame ape speetch.
You're nothing better than a libtard.
You're worse.
Far worse.
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My post was simply to point out that IN Jesus Christ HIMSELF, is salvation and life. And to reach out to Him with real belief and faith, is all that it takes to receive Him.

The woman in the story in Mark and Luke did exactly that, and she received healing. She reached out and touched Him with real belief and faith and she was healed.

I believe that happened like that for a reason. E.g. God was telling/showing/teaching us through that story, something deeper.

That's it, I'm not trying to push my beliefs on anyone. I was just reading those passages and saw that, and it jumped out to me. So I just thought I'd share it.

Blessings for whomever felt comforted by it.





GLP