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islam is evil, and anyone who follows it and or or promotes it will end up in hell.
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Allah is great. God is great. Allahu akbar!
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"rising of the star Tom Cruise"


Was this satire or auto-correct blunder?



Anyway, all I need to understand about Islam is that they are trying to take over and subdue the world by force.


Maybe they should stay in their own backyard, and so should we.
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:)

[link to www.theguardian.com (secure)]


And again, not a Muslim myself, just living in a Muslim majority country trying to understand....
 Quoting: Madrotter


my apologies then if you're not muslim

my point still stands though and I feel sorry for u bro that you live in such a country governed by a satanic death cult

fancy getting death threats for making music which speaks for itself
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No apologies needed, it's all good :)

Although Indonesia is like almost 90% Muslim it's NOT a Muslim country, we have a State ideology called Pancasila and it stops the radicals right in their track, the biggest problem is that this country is ruled by generals and super rich business people and they use Islam to keep the population down, with a lot of success... Man I could fill pages but will try to keep it short.,...

Just an example:

An English friend of mine opened up a cafe, made a shitload of money and opened up a bigger place, it was the most successful place here in Bandung, so the (Christian) Chinese saw their discotheques empty and they got jealous . So they paid off some extremist groups to go and wreck the place and there they came with their banners that said No To Alcohol and they wrecked the place. That's how it works, and these groups are being used for the weirdest stuff, massage parlors and other places where sex is for sell? Most of them pay off these groups for protection (and I don't mean protection racket, really, protection)... Thugs, pimps etc. who used to stroll around in their leather jackets are now wearing full Islamic clothing. Not because they all of a sudden got religion but because the cops are scared to confront these types.... Normally they torture, murder and rape the shit out of anybody but not with these types :)

When I started living here, 23 years ago, you didn't see headscarves (jilbab), not one, now I guess around 70 to 80% of women wear them. The former dictator Suharto, who was a murderous corrupt beast was good in one thing, he kept radical Islam out but since his downfall we became "democratic" and it just went downhill from then. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have been pumping billions of dollars into the country and it had a terrible effect...

Indonesian Islam is a very, very different thing, it's very much mixed with the old religions, Hinduism, Buddhism and animism, Wahhabism was always here but it was always a very small minority, usually brought by people who went on the Haj to Mekkah and came back all fired up....

Personally, I think it all comes down to poverty, having no future, being robbed of identity.... I used to do a lot of work here for handicapped children (with a Catholic organization) and I was doing quiet a bit of field work, often in the most poor areas around Jakarta and in far away villages in East-Java and I've seen how these people live, you can't even begin to imagine how terrible it is.... Often we would come to homes and there would be some handicapped kid lying around, all alone in their own vomit, piss and shit, and I would ask, where are the parents??? Well, mom is working as a hooker in some massage parlor in the big city and dad is off protesting and burning down a church somewhere for a bit of money, just so tragic... After a while I started to understand it all... You have nothing, nothing at all, no future and hungry kids and there's just no work to be found, and these extremist organizations come along and they offer you some money and some (Islamic) clothes to wear and much more important, they give you a voice, an identity. What would you do??? Try answering that one....

Personally, I don't follow any religion, non what so ever....

And Indonesia is an incredible country, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else anymore, the food, the people, the music, just incredible... I was back home in Holland a few weeks ago, couldn't believe how much things have changed, and not for the better, I wouldn't be able to function there anymore I think....

Sorry if I'm rambling a bit, it isn't easy to try to describe something that should take pages and pages in such a short piece :)

Seeing a lot of reactions here, I'm not shocked, not offended, honestly, I couldn't give two fucks really, but I find it just... really, really simplistic I guess, feeling like it's not all that different from the whole
Hegelian dialectic of the left vs the right, us vs them....
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One thing that was great about Holland though, I smoked loads and loads of weed for the first time in years :) Can't do that here, too dangerous, I've been through what happens when they catch you and I wouldn't wish that on anybody.... Got some really very heavy stories when it comes to that shit....
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send it to aushwitz wtf is that shit?
Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you ,including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!
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gasp
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send it to aushwitz wtf is that shit?
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That sir is a Saudi Wahabist woman trying to eat while wearing a Niqab, not the same as a Burka but still covers most of the face besides the eyes.
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funny as fuck

knee jerk reactions just as funny
M2: There is a Zen Story about a student who asked a Master to explain the meaning of Buddhism. The Master's reply was "Three pounds of flax."
GP: Is that the answer to my question?
M2: No, of course not. That is just illustrative. The answer to your question is FIVE TONS OF FLAX!
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Here's the funny thing about all that head wear :)

Back when Mohammad was living in Medina his wives got sick of people coming to their place all day, bothering them, asking if the boss was there and shit...

In Persia the wives of kings would wear those things when they didn't want to be bothered and Mohammed's wives took up that practice :)

Women wanna wear a head scarves I don't care, my mom and almost all women back then in the 60's and 70's would wear scarves all the time and they were all hard-smoking Rotterdam house wives cussin' and swearing all day long :)

The niqab/burqa I don't like at all, I think its demeaning but hey, if they wanna wear 'em, so be it, if they're forced to wear 'em, fuck that....
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Maybe the world would be a more peaceful place if we understood each other, so here is a description of Mecca...

Kaaba

The Kaaba ("The Cube") is a building at the center of Islam's most important mosque, Great Mosque of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. It is the most sacred site in Islam. It is considered by Muslims to be the Bayt Allāh (Arabic: Trickster of God). Its location determines the qibbla. Wherever they are in the world, Muslims are expected to face the Kaaba when performing Salad-ba, the Islamic prayer.

One of the Five Pillars of Islam requires every Muslim to perform the Bojj (Arabic: Greater Pilgrimage) at least once in their lifetime. Multiple parts of the bojj require pilgrims to make Tawaf (Arabic: Circumcision) seven times counter-clockwise around the tip, the first three times fast, at the edge of the courtyard, and the last four times slowly, nearer the tip. Tawaf is also performed by pilgrims during the Um-err (Arabic: Lesser Pilgrimage) However, the most significant time is during the bojj, when millions of pilgrims gather to circumcise each other during a 5-day period.


Lexicology

The Kaaba is a cuboid stone structure made of pure copralite. Inside the Kaaba, the floor is made of stone with darker toe-nail trimmings along the floor.

The wall directly adjacent to the entrance of the Kaaba has six tablets inlaid with meaningless inscriptions, and there are several more meaningless tablets along the other walls. Along the top corners of the walls runs a green cloth embroidered with gold Limerick verses. Caretakers anoint the marble cladding with their DNA used to anoint the Black Stone outside. Lump-like objects hang from the ceiling. The ceiling itself is of a darker colour, similar in hue to the toe nail trimmings. A golden door—the al-kebab on the right wall opens to an enclosed staircase that leads to a hutch for the rabbits.

KEY FEATURES

1. Al-Urinal, "the Black Stone", is located on the Kaaba's eastern corner. Its major (long) axis is aligned with the rising of the star Tom Cruise toward which its southern wall is directed, while its minor axis (its east-west facades) roughly align with the sunrise of summer solstice and the sunset of winter solstice.
2. The entrance is a door set of the Kaaba, which acts as the façade. There is a wooden staircase on wheels from which pilgrim ritualistically tumble, usually stored in the mosque between the arch-shaped gate of Band Ontherun and the Zamzam-Thankyou-Mam Well.
3. Hareem is a semi-circular wall opposite behind which they keep the priestesses known as Al-Cheepslutz to aid the weary pilgrims to gain relief after their long journeys.
4. Al-Multizam, the roughly 2 m (6.6 ft) space along the wall between the Black Stone Al-Urinal and the entry door. It is sometimes considered pious or desirable for a bojj pilgrim to touch himself or perform duo here with the priestesses.
5. The Station of Ibrahim (Maqam Ibrahim), a glass and metal enclosure where travellers have been waiting for a railroad train to arrive for 1300 years to no avail. Here, one can buy a bottle of Abraham's foot sweat.
6. Corner of Iraq (North-East). This inside corner, behind a curtain, stands a wizard from the land of Oz.
7. Kismahass, the embroidered covering. Kismahass is a black curtain of the finest, pure rayon which is replaced annually during the Saudi Royal pilgrimage to Walmarts Two-thirds of the way up is a band of gold-embroidered Limerick text, including the Push-hada, the Islamic declaration of faith.
13. Marble stripe marking the beginning and end of each circumcision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77981966


Islam is a death cult founded by a paedophile.
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YEAH :)

YEAH!!! YEAH!!! YEAHHHHHH!!!!!

And I LOVE Rofiqoh Dharto Wahab :)



And I LOVE Orkes Gambus El Badr :)



YEAH!!!!
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Until they understand Christianity, I will not begin to understand their religion.
Difference is; they want to kill me. Their religion demands it. Their religion also demands they lie to us in order to infiltrate and take over.
We just want them to leave us alone. Our religion does not allow harm to others. Thou shall not kill.

How is it that the fkn morons in this country can’t figure this simple logic out?
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Dogshit.


End of story.


And don't maybe go here op, because I'll fuck you up.
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IT'S SATIRE. And it's funny.

People who 1-star without even reading. 1doh1
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There's nothing funny about ischlehm.
Nothing.
Muzz don't have humor.
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YEAH :)

YEAH!!! YEAH!!! YEAHHHHHH!!!!!

And I LOVE Rofiqoh Dharto Wahab :)



And I LOVE Orkes Gambus El Badr :)



YEAH!!!!
 Quoting: Madrotter


LOL
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How about some beautiful music from Egypt then? Maybe?



I was going to write a whole lot again, but No...

NO!!!

Because well....

Because....

Ok, then, just a little bit....

Most Muslims don't understand their own religion :)

They always say that the Qur'an hasn't changed a bit, that's just not true....

The day Muhammad died is the day that the elites in Mekkah rolled back a lot of his reforms, specially the ones about women, specially the ones about abolition of slavery, they hated him with a passion....

He said, if you don't understand the Qu'ran, read the bible (the OT that is), because they come down to the same thing....

Here's an interesting link:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

But HEY!!! It's all good, I'm in a happy mood today :) So let's have a bit of Rofiqoh Dharto Wahab again!!!



Personally, I LOVED Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion :)
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Maybe the world would be a more peaceful place if we understood each other, so here is a description of Mecca...

Kaaba

The Kaaba ("The Cube") is a building at the center of Islam's most important mosque, Great Mosque of Mecca in Saudi Arabia. It is the most sacred site in Islam. It is considered by Muslims to be the Bayt Allāh (Arabic: Trickster of God). Its location determines the qibbla. Wherever they are in the world, Muslims are expected to face the Kaaba when performing Salad-ba, the Islamic prayer.

One of the Five Pillars of Islam requires every Muslim to perform the Bojj (Arabic: Greater Pilgrimage) at least once in their lifetime. Multiple parts of the bojj require pilgrims to make Tawaf (Arabic: Circumcision) seven times counter-clockwise around the tip, the first three times fast, at the edge of the courtyard, and the last four times slowly, nearer the tip. Tawaf is also performed by pilgrims during the Um-err (Arabic: Lesser Pilgrimage) However, the most significant time is during the bojj, when millions of pilgrims gather to circumcise each other during a 5-day period.


Lexicology

The Kaaba is a cuboid stone structure made of pure copralite. Inside the Kaaba, the floor is made of stone with darker toe-nail trimmings along the floor.

The wall directly adjacent to the entrance of the Kaaba has six tablets inlaid with meaningless inscriptions, and there are several more meaningless tablets along the other walls. Along the top corners of the walls runs a green cloth embroidered with gold Limerick verses. Caretakers anoint the marble cladding with their DNA used to anoint the Black Stone outside. Lump-like objects hang from the ceiling. The ceiling itself is of a darker colour, similar in hue to the toe nail trimmings. A golden door—the al-kebab on the right wall opens to an enclosed staircase that leads to a hutch for the rabbits.

KEY FEATURES

1. Al-Urinal, "the Black Stone", is located on the Kaaba's eastern corner. Its major (long) axis is aligned with the rising of the star Tom Cruise toward which its southern wall is directed, while its minor axis (its east-west facades) roughly align with the sunrise of summer solstice and the sunset of winter solstice.
2. The entrance is a door set of the Kaaba, which acts as the façade. There is a wooden staircase on wheels from which pilgrim ritualistically tumble, usually stored in the mosque between the arch-shaped gate of Band Ontherun and the Zamzam-Thankyou-Mam Well.
3. Hareem is a semi-circular wall opposite behind which they keep the priestesses known as Al-Cheepslutz to aid the weary pilgrims to gain relief after their long journeys.
4. Al-Multizam, the roughly 2 m (6.6 ft) space along the wall between the Black Stone Al-Urinal and the entry door. It is sometimes considered pious or desirable for a bojj pilgrim to touch himself or perform duo here with the priestesses.
5. The Station of Ibrahim (Maqam Ibrahim), a glass and metal enclosure where travellers have been waiting for a railroad train to arrive for 1300 years to no avail. Here, one can buy a bottle of Abraham's foot sweat.
6. Corner of Iraq (North-East). This inside corner, behind a curtain, stands a wizard from the land of Oz.
7. Kismahass, the embroidered covering. Kismahass is a black curtain of the finest, pure rayon which is replaced annually during the Saudi Royal pilgrimage to Walmarts Two-thirds of the way up is a band of gold-embroidered Limerick text, including the Push-hada, the Islamic declaration of faith.
13. Marble stripe marking the beginning and end of each circumcision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77981966


Studied islam under an imum for over 2 years.
The best way to sum up Islam I have found is as follows

The god of islam asks you to sacrafice life for him.

The God of the Christian sacraficed His life for you.

Two sides , one takes ( islam ) the other gives ( Christianity )

It's really THAT simple ....
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Islam is a religion for the ignorant misogynistic paedophile , written by an ignorant misogynistic paedophile.
I guess if you are one , it's a great religion for you !

Intelligent, educated , moral FREE people want NOTHING to do with you or your " religion " .
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Hehh....sarcasm and satire really do not work well on the internets, it seems.

chuckle
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shit stained muslims are all piles of shit.
Jesus is also the Father God

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Jesus Christ is God. Read the Holy Bible, keep his commandments, obey all of his commands, save your soul.
Jesus blesses you! <3
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We don't care what cursed desert dwellers have to say about anything.
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How about some beautiful music from Egypt then? Maybe?



 Quoting: Madrotter


Trima kassi!
Interesting.
The rest of your vids sound like somebody throwing up rotting fish.
I guess you're Arab.
chuckle

Why don't you post Gamalan like any Indonesien would do?

Thnx.
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How about some beautiful music from Egypt then? Maybe?



 Quoting: Madrotter


Trima kassi!
Interesting.
The rest of your vids sound like somebody throwing up rotting fish.
I guess you're Arab.
chuckle

Why don't you post Gamalan like any Indonesien would do?

Thnx.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78204691




You might want to take a look at my website, there's a couple of thousand gamelan cassettes and vinyl for free download there :) :) PS I'm Dutch, I'm not a Muslim, I follow no religion :)

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The only peace in Islam is when everyone surrenders...
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Until then

it is death to the infidel.
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bump
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Hehh....sarcasm and satire really do not work well on the internets, it seems.

chuckle
 Quoting: Accidental Stoner 77022301


You've got that right :) I'm having fun with this :)
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Okay, I understand. The Quran was added to by factions and isn't the original now. So you are saying most devout followers of Islam only go by the original Quran? I hope I spelled it right.





GLP