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Symptoms of the Kali Yuga

 
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How many of these ring true?

From the Sanskrit texts the Vishnu Purana and the Linga Purana:

* Thieves will become kings, and kings will be the thieves.
* Rulers will confiscate property and use it badly. They will cease to protect the people.
* Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning (without having the virtues necessary for its use) will be esteemed as sages.
* There will be many displaced persons, wandering from one country to another.
* Predatory animals will be more violent.
* Fetuses will be killed in the wombs of their mothers.
* People will prefer to choose false ideas.
* No one will be able to trust anyone else.
* People will be envious.
* There will be many children born whose life expectancy is no more than 16 years.
* People suffering from hunger and fear will take refuge in underground shelters.
* Young girls will do trade in their virginity.
* The god of clouds will be inconsistent in the distribution of the rains.
* Shopkeepers will run dishonest businesses.
* There will be many beggars and unemployed people.
* Everyone will use hard and vulgar language.
* Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power.
* The state leaders will no longer protect the people but, through taxes, will appropriate all wealth.
* Water will be lacking.
* Pre-cooked food will be readily available!

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I need to see a copy of this from no later than the 19th century.

Otherwise, this was written in modern times and attributed to texts we'll never have access to in any conceivable way.
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The problem with Vedic literature is that it is elastic, and tends to be whatever anyone wants it to be...ascribing all sorts of mysticism to books whose language is mostly lost to time.

Have you read the Dhanarad Migistra? It contains this verse:

Humans will travel to and fro in metal birds
Young men will devote entire lives to images on a screen
Leaders will become boastful and arrogant


It was from 9000BC but wasn't written down until 812AD!

You will believe this and never check.

Now you will think the Vedas are all powerful and we should all become Hindu and go practice all manner of new-ageism that is packaged for westerners as "Mystical Ancient Hinduism"
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Now you will think the Vedas are all powerful and we should all become Hindu and go practice all manner of new-ageism that is packaged for westerners as "Mystical Ancient Hinduism"
 Quoting: The_Meridian

The ancient Sanskrit texts do not equal Hindusim. Hindusim is loosely based on them, buy you're conflating the two.

At the same time, no one is asking you to think one way or the other. No one is knocking on your door, or threatening violence against you for your beliefs.

There also isn't anything "New Age" about this. The ancient Greeks, the Norse, the Hopi, etc. all recognized the cycle of the ages, along with the Vedic culture.

Another strange phenomenon of the Kali Yuga is the externalization of faith to such an extreme that people became obsessed and crazed with their individual belief systems. For 1000s of years now human beings have, in the name of their various interpretations of God, inflicted endless stupid destructive wars on each other – mass murder, torture, theft, and slavery all in the name of God!

When you realize that God is within each and every man woman & child, the idea of forcing any religion upon another is the height of absurdity!
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Re: Symptoms of the Kali Yuga
yes to all of that

But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of fake things attributed to those texts, seemingly including your opening post.

As for Hindu/Veda/Rama

Yes, I'm aware, but shorthand to get to a point.
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But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of fake things attributed to those texts, seemingly including your opening post.
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I haven't come across anything that claims these translations are fake?
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But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of fake things attributed to those texts, seemingly including your opening post.
 Quoting: The_Meridian

I haven't come across anything that claims these translations are fake?
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Can you source them, then?
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I doubt "precooked food" point was in the original texts.
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I doubt "precooked food" point was in the original texts.
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That's how you know it's fake, too many "on-the-nose" specifics.
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USA year 2020
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Demonness Kali is now gone


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ENDING THE KALI Yuga Year September 2020
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5* thread great work OP!!!!
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Theosophy is good too.... Blavatsky was a visionary
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blah blah blah

thread hijacked by pink elephant ...

and next?

also it's basically all happening and the proof is out there ...

so now what??

are you going to spend your time on GLP or actually do something?
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But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of fake things attributed to those texts, seemingly including your opening post.
 Quoting: The_Meridian

I haven't come across anything that claims these translations are fake?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78198515


Can you source them, then?
 Quoting: The_Meridian

Here is the first English translation of the Vishnu Purana from 1864. HH Wilson, Professor of Sanskrit, Oxford.
(link won't post, it's on archive dot org)

It has a pretty detailed description of the Kali Yuga ending with:

When the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of the divine being shall descend on earth, and will be born as Kalki. By his irresistible might, he will destroy all the Mleohhas and thieves. He will then re-establish righteousness upon earth. The men who are thus changed shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, or age of purity.

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Demonness Kali is now gone


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ENDING THE KALI Yuga Year September 2020
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Gd help u lol
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for ur symptoms chuckle

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Now you will think the Vedas are all powerful and we should all become Hindu and go practice all manner of new-ageism that is packaged for westerners as "Mystical Ancient Hinduism"
 Quoting: The_Meridian

The ancient Sanskrit texts do not equal Hindusim. Hindusim is loosely based on them, buy you're conflating the two.

At the same time, no one is asking you to think one way or the other. No one is knocking on your door, or threatening violence against you for your beliefs.

There also isn't anything "New Age" about this. The ancient Greeks, the Norse, the Hopi, etc. all recognized the cycle of the ages, along with the Vedic culture.

Another strange phenomenon of the Kali Yuga is the externalization of faith to such an extreme that people became obsessed and crazed with their individual belief systems. For 1000s of years now human beings have, in the name of their various interpretations of God, inflicted endless stupid destructive wars on each other – mass murder, torture, theft, and slavery all in the name of God!

When you realize that God is within each and every man woman & child, the idea of forcing any religion upon another is the height of absurdity!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78198515




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Do you have small dolls or carvings you carry around that are your gods? Do you think a cow is god? If so, your eligible for hinduism, the vedas are babylonian garbage, that stuff comes from the heathen mystery religion of babylon Nimrod/Tammuz/Dummuzi/Osiris is who the hindus call shiva
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Do you have small dolls or carvings you carry around that are your gods? Do you think a cow is god? If so, your eligible for hinduism, the vedas are babylonian garbage, that stuff comes from the heathen mystery religion of babylon Nimrod/Tammuz/Dummuzi/Osiris is who the hindus call shiva
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Do you have small dolls or carvings you carry around that are your gods? Do you think a cow is god? If so, your eligible for hinduism, the vedas are babylonian garbage, that stuff comes from the heathen mystery religion of babylon Nimrod/Tammuz/Dummuzi/Osiris is who the hindus call shiva
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bullshit so nice it had to post twice
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Do you have small dolls or carvings you carry around that are your gods? Do you think a cow is god? If so, your eligible for hinduism, the vedas are babylonian garbage, that stuff comes from the heathen mystery religion of babylon Nimrod/Tammuz/Dummuzi/Osiris is who the hindus call shiva
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Babylon. Lol.

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Babylon. Lol.

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cool!
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The problem with Vedic literature is that it is elastic, and tends to be whatever anyone wants it to be...ascribing all sorts of mysticism to books whose language is mostly lost to time.

Have you read the Dhanarad Migistra? It contains this verse:

Humans will travel to and fro in metal birds
Young men will devote entire lives to images on a screen
Leaders will become boastful and arrogant


It was from 9000BC but wasn't written down until 812AD!

You will believe this and never check.

Now you will think the Vedas are all powerful and we should all become Hindu and go practice all manner of new-ageism that is packaged for westerners as "Mystical Ancient Hinduism"
 Quoting: The_Meridian


This is a very envious mentality and you are mocking the Vedic scriptures, ie committing blasphemy.

Kind of hard to understand spiritual knowledge when you approach it with a snarky Reddit teenage girl attitude.
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the modern astronomical calculation of one full precession of the equinox, takes 25,772 years.

According to the Laws of Manu, one of the earliest known texts describing the yugas, the lengths are approximately 4800 years + 3600 years + 2400 years + 1200 years, for a total of 12,000 years for one arc, or 24,000 years to complete the cycle, which is approximately one precession of the equinox. These 4 yugas follow a timeline ratio of (4:3:2:1).

If we follow the chart of the saptarishis, that also indicates the same as mentioned in the article with a 300 yr transitional period in between every yuga.

Swami Sri Yukteswar, Yogananda's guru, among others, have disputed about what is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam saying that it is a miscalculation by the people who deciphered it and said that we are living in "Dwapara Yuga" as per the Vedas.
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How many of these ring true?

From the Sanskrit texts the Vishnu Purana and the Linga Purana:

* Thieves will become kings, and kings will be the thieves.
* Rulers will confiscate property and use it badly. They will cease to protect the people.
* Base men who have gained a certain amount of learning (without having the virtues necessary for its use) will be esteemed as sages.
* There will be many displaced persons, wandering from one country to another.
* Predatory animals will be more violent.
* Fetuses will be killed in the wombs of their mothers.
* People will prefer to choose false ideas.
* No one will be able to trust anyone else.
* People will be envious.
* There will be many children born whose life expectancy is no more than 16 years.
* People suffering from hunger and fear will take refuge in underground shelters.
* Young girls will do trade in their virginity.
* The god of clouds will be inconsistent in the distribution of the rains.
* Shopkeepers will run dishonest businesses.
* There will be many beggars and unemployed people.
* Everyone will use hard and vulgar language.
* Men will devote themselves to earning money; the richest will hold power.
* The state leaders will no longer protect the people but, through taxes, will appropriate all wealth.
* Water will be lacking.
* Pre-cooked food will be readily available!

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But what I'm saying is that there are a lot of fake things attributed to those texts, seemingly including your opening post.
 Quoting: The_Meridian

I haven't come across anything that claims these translations are fake?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78198515


Can you source them, then?
 Quoting: The_Meridian

Here is the first English translation of the Vishnu Purana from 1864. HH Wilson, Professor of Sanskrit, Oxford.
(link won't post, it's on archive dot org)

It has a pretty detailed description of the Kali Yuga ending with:

When the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of the divine being shall descend on earth, and will be born as Kalki. By his irresistible might, he will destroy all the Mleohhas and thieves. He will then re-establish righteousness upon earth. The men who are thus changed shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, or age of purity.

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That's very interesting. I'm not sure how anyone, in this day and age where we all have easy access to ancient religious/philosophical scripture, can't plainly see that all religions are ultimately talking about the same thing. This reads exactly like any end times Biblical scripture.

What are the Mleohhas, though?
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