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Why Conservatism is DOOMED in America (A Sobering Truth)

 
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Why Conservatism is DOOMED in America (A Sobering Truth)
Why Conservatives Are Doomed

"The United States was built by Europeans. If conservatives hope to conserve anything that they claim to love – the Constitution, liberty, limited government, gun rights – they will have to conserve a people. Conservatives tell us “America is an idea, not a race.” No nation can be “an idea.” If it is not a flesh-and-blood people with a common heritage, it is not a nation. It is a rabble."

I hope this guy is wrong, but he's probably right:



Trump might be the last breath of conservatism in the USA.
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It is doomed because neocons control the republican party. If you dont worship israel then the "conservatives" dont want you around.

Basically the 2 party system has ruined conservatism because they make you send money to israel and support their wars or they kick you to the curb.

Political parties need to be abolished. They are controlled by israel.
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Is America based on an ideal or a race?

Considering that the founding fathers thought only land-owning white men should have the right to vote, it seems pretty clear to me that they intended for America be run by white, European men. I have nothing against other racial groups, but I believe white men should run America, just as I believe that Japanese men should run Japan, or Kenyan men should run Kenya.

For those who think an increasingly "diverse" America can survive, I will just have you view the charts posted below for a sobering glimpse of reality:

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Communist propaganda, op is a shill.
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Communist propaganda, op is a shill.
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^ He obviously didn't watch the video.
If the racial demographics continue as is, then America will become increasingly socialist. Non-whites often think of "conservatism" as a white thing and they tend to be overly dependent on government handouts. I would exclude Asians though, since they have an economic contribution that is similar to whites.
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It is doomed because neocons control the republican party. If you dont worship israel then the "conservatives" dont want you around.

Basically the 2 party system has ruined conservatism because they make you send money to israel and support their wars or they kick you to the curb.

Political parties need to be abolished. They are controlled by israel.
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That's basically true, and the end result will be that America will get its first woman President ever.


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The Conservative Party in the US has suicided -count on it, I am a good analyst -better than Karl Rove.
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Communist propaganda, op is a shill.
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Is this a real poster or a bot?

This isn't communist propaganda.
The commies are the one's who promote mass immigration and racial diversity, both of which have weakened the conservative party in America.
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Patriots have no skin color.
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Communist propaganda, op is a shill.
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Is this a real poster or a bot?

This isn't communist propaganda.
The commies are the one's who promote mass immigration and racial diversity, both of which have weakened the conservative party in America.
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I agree, we need to stop labelling and thinking for ourselves.
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Patriots have no skin color.
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All the founding fathers of America were white, literally 100% white. And they all agreed that only land-owning white men should be allowed to vote.

The majority of non-white Americans support gun control legislation (anti 2nd amendment). The majorty of white Americans don't.

The majority of non-white Americans support some restrictions on free-speech (e.g. hate speech laws). The majorty of white Americans don't.

Increrasing diversity will pretty much spell the end for America, the Constitution, and Liberty.
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Big corporate businesses and banks override the people.

Driven to poverty for easy credit and national security the people cry for more security even the fake "conservative".
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Big corporate businesses and banks override the people.

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Big corporations and banks also support mass immigration for the cheap labor. Cheaper labor = higher corporate profits for the big wigs in charge.
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Big corporate businesses and banks override the people.

Driven to poverty for easy credit and national security the people cry for more security even the fake "conservative".
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Yes indeed, they do, and that is why we need to hold those morons accountable.

One more point: For some bizarre reason, conservatives compete for what they perceive to be "cultural advantages" and denounce anybody who does not join their crusade. They further insist that all progressives are social engineers and focus on the peculiar idea of a single individual to falsely assert that all progressives share this dangerous zeal to undermine individual rights.

Today's Conservatives are simple too weird.
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Conservatism is doomed because it doesn't align with agenda 21 and agenda 30. Trump is helping woo you stupid fucks with tweets, failed promises and untrue facts. He is not being straight up about anything. That should be a tell he is not what you think he is. The liberals are worse I understand. But following a false prophet because he "says" this and "says" that. come on.

He can't fix anything ever because if would out the things and powers that allowed him to get where he is. Now you have other billionaires saying he is oh so great. This is clearly a class war. They put top wealth in the seat to protect the upper class you dumb fucks.

Nothing but crumbs will happen for the people as always. Unless it is more rights for lgbt and illegals.
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Now high ranking people including his pastor call him god.
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One star thread..
Bad or missing keyboard. Press F1 to continue....
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Then there is this thing going around about how hard he works. lol. Any true American not in the upper upper class would have went in like a bull and not golfed tweeted and made false claims. Can't you see how he talks. Like a fucking dictator. ME this I did that. Great great great.
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Conservatism is doomed because it doesn't align with agenda 21 and agenda 30.
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Americans are a powerful enough nation to stand up to the U.N. or the rest of the world.

But we're too distracted by the mass immigration, diversity, LGBT, and pop-cultural idiocy to take our nation back from the insular elitists who want the world for theirselves.
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It's already here. Coming from the left and the right. The train has left the station.
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It is doomed because neocons control the republican party. If you dont worship israel then the "conservatives" dont want you around.

Basically the 2 party system has ruined conservatism because they make you send money to israel and support their wars or they kick you to the curb.

Political parties need to be abolished. They are controlled by israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75892499


That's basically true, and the end result will be that America will get its first woman President ever.


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The Conservative Party in the US has suicided -count on it, I am a good analyst -better than Karl Rove.
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I can't believe the traction Warren is getting. Even David Weissman who was an enthusiastic Trump supporter, has embraced Elizabeth Warren. According to Weissman;

"In 2016, I was a conservative Trump supporter — but I'm backing Elizabeth Warren in 2020. It’s been over a year since I decided to stop supporting President Trump and join the Democratic Party. I have also decided to support Elizabeth Warren in the Democratic primaries. To this day, I am still asked why I made the transition — and I feel that I need to explain why.

I was a conservative activist and writer for a couple of years prior to the 2016 election. I decided to do this because I felt threatened by Democrats, and I believed that they wanted to take our rights away — rights like freedom of religion, and speech. I believed Islam was a religion of terror. I believed Democrats wanted to destroy the sanctity of marriage. I had a myopic view of the second amendment, without seeing its full context. I condemned socialism and abortion. I wanted a wall to stop immigrants from “invading” America.

I was originally a Ted Cruz supporter, but when the conservative media I consumed started teaching me to hate Hillary Clinton, I decided to vote for Donald Trump. At the time, I didn’t realize who Trump really was.

Trump wanted the same things I wanted, so I thought he was an easy choice for President of the United States. I really believed Trump was a patriotic, successful businessman, who cared about all Americans, and that sold me on voting for him. I was aware he wasn’t a saint, but I felt no one is perfect and anyway, conservative news networks kept calling Hillary a criminal.

So how did I end up changing my mind?

After a couple of years of defending Trump and calling media that portrayed him in a bad light “fake news” — which was a thing before Trump — I had a conversation that changed my approach on social media. I realized I had always been aggressive and mean. I wanted to force my views on people. There was never a debate — I used insults and ad hominem attacks.

These tactics didn’t get me anywhere. Comedian Sarah Silverman actually reached out to me after I attacked her comedy online. Sarah used kindness, which was not expected, and she got my attention. I asked why she didn’t like Trump and she told me why without any arguments. I felt that if this progressive, very liberal celebrity is willing to talk to me about Trump, maybe I can find out why liberals believe in the things they do.

As I began conversing with Silverman, other people began reaching out to me. I started learning more about Democratic values and people. In many ways, it was shocking.

As this was going on, Trump supporters who knew me saw this and called me out, saying I was a traitor, a sellout, a Dem plant, a fraud — which surprised me because I thought they were friends. People I had once connected with ended up blocking me.

The insults continue to this day, but when it happened during that initial learning period, it snapped me out of my MAGA trance. I saw how Trump thrives on this behavior, and that’s when I decided to no longer be part of MAGA."

Weissman supports Warren even though he disagrees with her, in particular;

"Do I agree with all of her policies? Absolutely not. For example, I don’t agree with Medicare-for-All. I believe people should have the right to choose their provider and to choose if they want to be insured or not. But even with my disagreements, I believe she is the most put-together candidate to move our country forward."
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It's already here. Coming from the left and the right. The train has left the station.
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Yes the best to hope for conservatives is the local train with multiple stops.

The socialist express train wants to make no stops.

Of course the express may derail going to fast on a mountain curve.

Maybe that’s the best outcome.
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Patriots have no skin color.
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All the founding fathers of America were white, literally 100% white. And they all agreed that only land-owning white men should be allowed to vote.

The majority of non-white Americans support gun control legislation (anti 2nd amendment). The majorty of white Americans don't.

The majority of non-white Americans support some restrictions on free-speech (e.g. hate speech laws). The majorty of white Americans don't.

Increrasing diversity will pretty much spell the end for America, the Constitution, and Liberty.
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There is no stopping the inevitable. We are headed for WWIII. What comes out of the Ashes remains to be seen. Somehow I imagine it will look like this though.

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The very most troubling hint we have that America is done is that the military is going leftist. The patriots remaining in the US could defeat the deep state and the rest should it come to that but not against the military turned on them. This country is close to cooked.
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Reformation (break-up of theocratic control) and rise of "capitalism" - making high-side 3-sigma males the drivers of society.

US Republic - codifying high-side 3-sigma males as drivers of society - liberty (freedom to act/do, i.e., "pursuit of happiness", and drive society).

Decline of Republic (decline of high-side 3-sigma males driving society) - rise of "central bankers" of that other nation, growth of central government (reduction of freedom), political participation of groups clustered about or below the mean, i.e., anti-high-side 3-sigma males (e.g, females, etc.).
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It's doomed because of the evil left and it's biblical. It must get very dark before the light of Christ returns
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Multiculturalism really really sucks buckets.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Multiculturalism really really sucks buckets.
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The very most troubling hint we have that America is done is that the military is going leftist. The patriots remaining in the US could defeat the deep state and the rest should it come to that but not against the military turned on them. This country is close to cooked.
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that's the nature of fiat money.

more and more people convince themselves that debt isn't real and doesn't matter

and when that belief reaches a critical mass... boom, good-bye currency. we're pretty close.
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Re: Why Conservatism is DOOMED in America (A Sobering Truth)
It is doomed because neocons control the republican party. If you dont worship israel then the "conservatives" dont want you around.

Basically the 2 party system has ruined conservatism because they make you send money to israel and support their wars or they kick you to the curb.

Political parties need to be abolished. They are controlled by israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75892499


That's basically true, and the end result will be that America will get its first woman President ever.


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The Conservative Party in the US has suicided -count on it, I am a good analyst -better than Karl Rove.
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This is true. And bizarre. How cucked must you be to worship a country who fucking hats you.





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