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Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.

 
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Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
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why do you come here to ask what you could read first hand for yourself?

piss off
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God did no such thing.

You’re seriously confused.

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I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
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Man's sin is what separates him from God.

You will not be able to see God face to face until we are transformed into our new glorified bodies, free from corruption.

When Christ returns, the wicked will be destroyed by His brightness, because sin is flammable.

You cannot look upon God and survive, unless you are covered by the blood of the Lamb of God.
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
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I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
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Because you can't see yourself how he sees you. I've asked that questions many times and I got the answer. Because he is a part of you and you are a part of him. It is more deeper than that but it will lead you in the right direction, Hopefully.
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God did no such thing.

You’re seriously confused.

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You are seriously lost.

But hey... Good luck.
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Because you can't see yourself how he sees you. I've asked that questions many times and I got the answer. Because he is a part of you and you are a part of him. It is more deeper than that but it will lead you in the right direction, Hopefully.
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God is sovereign. God is separate from His creation.

We need Him, but He does not need us.

What you teach is a doctrine of devils, that we are "part of God", which is a form of pantheism.

I notice that you do not even bother to capitalize "He" and "Him".

Show some reverence, for crying out loud. That is... IF... you actually reverence God.
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Because you can't see yourself how he sees you. I've asked that questions many times and I got the answer. Because he is a part of you and you are a part of him. It is more deeper than that but it will lead you in the right direction, Hopefully.
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Thanks!

peace
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I don’t think the poster meant bad intent.

And Jesus did say lift up a rock I am there . So God is everywhere.
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
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I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


OP, you seem like a sincere soul.

And THAT is the most important thing of all.

Do not ever depend on your own works and performance to save you.

Have faith in Christ, that what HE did, can (and will) save you.

You will be trapped in a corrupted body of flesh until the day you perish. You are not ABLE to live the kind of perfect life that pleases God. That is why it's important fpor you to have faith in His Son, so that God the Farther looks at you THROUGH Christ, your One and ONLY Mediator.

I sense you are on the right track.

Blessings to you.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
God did no such thing.

You’re seriously confused.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258


I have studied so many religions . I am more of an agnostic right now. But I do believe in Jesus and his teachings . If you don’t believe the man , at least see his works and teachings. If everyone forgave their brother and loved their neighbor and lived with compassion and mercy , the world would be a better place . Remember jesus said to the woman caught in adultery,”’neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more”.

We need to sin no more.
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I don’t think the poster meant bad intent.

And Jesus did say lift up a rock I am there . So God is everywhere.
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God's spirit is everywhere, which is why Christ said He would send it to us, as our Comforter.

But don't make the mistake of getting caught up in this DECEPTION that we are God and God is us, or that God IS His creation, or even PART of his creation.

GOD IS SOVEREIGN from His creation.

Do not worship the creature, but ONLY the Creator.

The original lie from the Garden of Eden was:

"Ye shall be like God!" - Satan
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
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I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


OP, you seem like a sincere soul.

And THAT is the most important thing of all.

Do not ever depend on your own works and performance to save you.

Have faith in Christ, that what HE did, can (and will) save you.

You will be trapped in a corrupted body of flesh until the day you perish. You are not ABLE to live the kind of perfect life that pleases God. That is why it's important fpor you to have faith in His Son, so that God the Farther looks at you THROUGH Christ, your One and ONLY Mediator.

I sense you are on the right track.

Blessings to you.
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Thanks for the encouragement.

Seriously.

But I want to point out that In the gospels Jesus said that we must strive to be Perfect as our Father In Heaven is perfect.

He also said a lot to people go and sin no more.

So as I do see what you mean about being trapped in the flesh, we still can be Perfect according to Jesus. And it’s for Gods glory, not our own.

Blessings !

hf
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The same reason I'd die for my wife and child. They're not perfect, but I love them like nothing else.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
God did no such thing.

You’re seriously confused.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258


I have studied so many religions . I am more of an agnostic right now. But I do believe in Jesus and his teachings . If you don’t believe the man , at least see his works and teachings. If everyone forgave their brother and loved their neighbor and lived with compassion and mercy , the world would be a better place . Remember jesus said to the woman caught in adultery,”’neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more”.

We need to sin no more.
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But the point is... You WILL sin again.

And again.

You need to understand that even a Godly man like Paul, sinned until the day he died. He made that more than clear inhis writings.

He also made clear (and thanked) the REMEDY, in the Redeemer.

Show me ONE Christian who does not EVER sin, and I will show you a liar. The truth is not in him.

The wisest (mortal) man who ever lived said:

"For there is not a just man on earth who does good
And does not sin." Ecclesiastes 7:20
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God did no such thing.

You’re seriously confused.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77432258


I have studied so many religions . I am more of an agnostic right now. But I do believe in Jesus and his teachings . If you don’t believe the man , at least see his works and teachings. If everyone forgave their brother and loved their neighbor and lived with compassion and mercy , the world would be a better place . Remember jesus said to the woman caught in adultery,”’neither do I condemn you. Go and sin no more”.

We need to sin no more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


But the point is... You WILL sin again.

And again.

You need to understand that even a Godly man like Paul, sinned until the day he died. He made that more than clear inhis writings.

He also made clear (and thanked) the REMEDY, in the Redeemer.

Show me ONE Christian who does not EVER sin, and I will show you a liar. The truth is not in him.

The wisest (mortal) man who ever lived said:

"For there is not a just man on earth who does good
And does not sin." Ecclesiastes 7:20
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78209994


Thanks.

It makes me think of Jesus when one man said good rabbi and he said why do you call me good there is one good and hat is God.

So that sticks to scripture .

But Jesus did say to be Perfect as Father I’m Heaven is.

So we can strive to have a strong mind and live according to his plan.
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so I can sin as much as I like!
jesus paid for it all, great.
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so I can sin as much as I like!
jesus paid for it all, great.
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The more we become like Jesus, the less we sin. But as another poster said being human is dwelling in sin pretty much he didn’t use those words but that’s what it means. But we should try to do things that uplift and encourage . Not tear down and destroy.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
For crying out loud. Has it ever occurred beyond your comprehension that we are more than we think we are? And believe I Love My Father. But here comes Wisdom why would the Creator put on Flesh and die on a Cross if there was nothing to us. Little one there is more going on than you can imagine. I'll give you a parable and yet you will not understand but those that have ears to hear will comprehend.
If there is a tree, and this tree bears fruit, within the tree lies a seed. What happens once the the fruit touches fertile soil and the seed begins to grow. Would it not become as the tree that gave it fruit. This parable is not meant for your mind but your heart and soul. You will understand it sooner or later. We are a part of him and he is a part of us.
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
 Quoting: Follower of Jesus


I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


OP, you seem like a sincere soul.

And THAT is the most important thing of all.

Do not ever depend on your own works and performance to save you.

Have faith in Christ, that what HE did, can (and will) save you.

You will be trapped in a corrupted body of flesh until the day you perish. You are not ABLE to live the kind of perfect life that pleases God. That is why it's important fpor you to have faith in His Son, so that God the Farther looks at you THROUGH Christ, your One and ONLY Mediator.

I sense you are on the right track.

Blessings to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78209994


Thanks for the encouragement.

Seriously.

But I want to point out that In the gospels Jesus said that we must strive to be Perfect as our Father In Heaven is perfect.

He also said a lot to people go and sin no more.

So as I do see what you mean about being trapped in the flesh, we still can be Perfect according to Jesus. And it’s for Gods glory, not our own.

Blessings !

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991




You are taking verses out of context. Of course Yeshua told the woman (caught in adultery) to "go and sin no more". God will NEVER tell someone that it's "OK" to sin.

But the question becomes... Did she never sin again?

Surely, you know the answer to that.

People who teach the "Perfection Doctrine" are SINNERS, who tell YOU not to sin, while they sin in thought, word, deed, or by omission, ever day of their life, in one way (form) or another.

You get yourself caught up in this FALSE gospel of salvation by works (performance) and you are setting yourself up to:

1) Become a sinful hypocritical Pharisee

2) Give up in despair and give up the Gospel altogether

3) Commit suicide


Listen carefully... OK

The Gospel is NOT getting saved by faith, but then keeping (or maintaining) your salvation by works.

You do not gain sdalvation by fatih, and keep it by the very thing that was NOT able to gain you salvation to begin with.

Do you understand that the people who Yeshua will say "I never knew you" to, will be people who THOUGHT they were saved by their works and deeds, but who had no REAL relationship with Christ, through FAITH.

If you are still depending on your OWN works (and not Christs finished work on the cross) to "save" you, then you are following a "works based" gospel, which is a doctrine of demons hatched by the Roman Catholic church, and promulgated by her many "Protestant" daughters.

You can take or leave what I am saying, but be warned, you will be going down a long and dark path to nowhere, which I traveled myself, for MANY years. And I was as lost as lost can be.

I'm trying to help keep you from learning the hard way.

When Yeshua told you to be perfect, it is because that is the GOAL.

The question is... WILL you be "perfect"? And the answer is... NO... You will not.

And if you WERE "Perfect", you wouldn't even need Christ to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Solomon's dad, David (a man after God's own heart) said this:

"Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?" Proverbs 20:9


Be VERY careful about claiming to be without sin:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
For crying out loud. Has it ever occurred beyond your comprehension that we are more than we think we are? And believe I Love My Father. But here comes Wisdom why would the Creator put on Flesh and die on a Cross if there was nothing to us. Little one there is more going on than you can imagine. I'll give you a parable and yet you will not understand but those that have ears to hear will comprehend.
If there is a tree, and this tree bears fruit, within the tree lies a seed. What happens once the the fruit touches fertile soil and the seed begins to grow. Would it not become as the tree that gave it fruit. This parable is not meant for your mind but your heart and soul. You will understand it sooner or later. We are a part of him and he is a part of us.
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I just think God loves humans. And you are right there things going on that most are not aware of. I believe there exist vampires and aliens and reptile people. We don’t need to discuss it here but I have seen some crazy stuff.
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I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
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Well just so ya know Jesus didn't just die for you, He died for us all - the ones that accept Him and what He did for us. You are not automatically 'clean' until you stop willfully sinning and turn to Him and Him only. The choice is yours.
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I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


OP, you seem like a sincere soul.

And THAT is the most important thing of all.

Do not ever depend on your own works and performance to save you.

Have faith in Christ, that what HE did, can (and will) save you.

You will be trapped in a corrupted body of flesh until the day you perish. You are not ABLE to live the kind of perfect life that pleases God. That is why it's important fpor you to have faith in His Son, so that God the Farther looks at you THROUGH Christ, your One and ONLY Mediator.

I sense you are on the right track.

Blessings to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78209994


Thanks for the encouragement.

Seriously.

But I want to point out that In the gospels Jesus said that we must strive to be Perfect as our Father In Heaven is perfect.

He also said a lot to people go and sin no more.

So as I do see what you mean about being trapped in the flesh, we still can be Perfect according to Jesus. And it’s for Gods glory, not our own.

Blessings !

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991




You are taking verses out of context. Of course Yeshua told the woman (caught in adultery) to "go and sin no more". God will NEVER tell someone that it's "OK" to sin.

But the question becomes... Did she never sin again?

Surely, you know the answer to that.

People who teach the "Perfection Doctrine" are SINNERS, who tell YOU not to sin, while they sin in thought, word, deed, or by omission, ever day of their life, in one way (form) or another.

You get yourself caught up in this FALSE gospel of salvation by works (performance) and you are setting yourself up to:

1) Become a sinful hypocritical Pharisee

2) Give up in despair and give up the Gospel altogether

3) Commit suicide


Listen carefully... OK

The Gospel is NOT getting saved by faith, but then keeping (or maintaining) your salvation by works.

You do not gain sdalvation by fatih, and keep it by the very thing that was NOT able to gain you salvation to begin with.

Do you understand that the people who Yeshua will say "I never knew you" to, will be people who THOUGHT they were saved by their works and deeds, but who had no REAL relationship with Christ, through FAITH.

If you are still depending on your OWN works (and not Christs finished work on the cross) to "save" you, then you are following a "works based" gospel, which is a doctrine of demons hatched by the Roman Catholic church, and promulgated by her many "Protestant" daughters.

You can take or leave what I am saying, but be warned, you will be going down a long and dark path to nowhere, which I traveled myself, for MANY years. And I was as lost as lost can be.

I'm trying to help keep you from learning the hard way.

When Yeshua told you to be perfect, it is because that is the GOAL.

The question is... WILL you be "perfect"? And the answer is... NO... You will not.

And if you WERE "Perfect", you wouldn't even need Christ to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Solomon's dad, David (a man after God's own heart) said this:

"Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?" Proverbs 20:9


Be VERY careful about claiming to be without sin:

"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78209994


Thanks for posting scripture. I never ever said I am without sin . All I said was Jesus did tell us to be Perfect. It is not out of context. But of course one wouldn’t flaunt this. If they did they wouldn’t be perfect. It isn’t for ego or self purpose it’s for God. To glorify him in all things, every second of the way.
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I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
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Read II Corinthians 5:21.

Then read Romans 10:9.

There are no "pure saints", as you put it. What you have to realize is that ONLY Jesus Christ can bring us to the level of purity that we need to be at in order to be considered righteous to Father God.

Here I'll put it another way: what you consider pure, and what God considers pure, are entirely different. What Jesus did for you, had to be done, to make you "God's righteous".

God the Father sent Jesus because of love for us, and Jesus accepted coming on our behalf, out of love for us and obedience to His Father.

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in Him, should not perish but have everlasting life.

Believe God raised Him from the dead, confess Him as Lord, accept the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
Etch this into your mind and your being:

It is faith in Christ that keeps us sinless in the eyes of God.

Your own works and "obedience" is as filthy rags, unto God.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
I could see dying for some pure saint sure but me? ME? And then you tell me live with hope and faith and truth. But I get down in despair and I become bitter and I lie. It’s like every blessing God gives me I use my free will to turn it into a curse. I hate being of the flesh. I hate sinning. I hate that I escape reality because I can’t handle it. I smoke cigarettes and I love to gamble. I usually make 20-30 dollars last for hours. But I do it to escape. If God appeared instantly to me I would stop all gambling and hurting my body. But I question if he is truly there . Because I beg and beg and beg to hear his voice and all there is is silence. It breaks my heart. But I still believe. Even if I don’t fully understand. Deep down I want to be a disciple. Not for myself or my own glory but for building up the kingdom and for the Glory of God and the recognition of his reedeeming power of salvation. It’s all for him . But in no way do I feel worthy. I am dirty. Yet God says because of Jesus you are clean . How do I accept that ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75103991


Read II Corinthians 5:21.

Then read Romans 10:9.

There are no "pure saints", as you put it. What you have to realize is that ONLY Jesus Christ can bring us to the level of purity that we need to be at in order to be considered righteous to Father God.

Here I'll put it another way: what you consider pure, and what God considers pure, are entirely different. What Jesus did for you, had to be done, to make you "God's righteous".

God the Father sent Jesus because of love for us, and Jesus accepted coming on our behalf, out of love for us and obedience to His Father.

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believe in Him, should not perish but have everlasting life.

Believe God raised Him from the dead, confess Him as Lord, accept the gift of salvation through Jesus Christ.
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This brother (or sister) Speaketh the Way, the Truth, and the Life.
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Take the gift and do the best you can!!!
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I just hate failing God.

I want to do the right thing always.

I know Paul talked about the sin of the flesh and I recall him saying that he does the things he doesn’t want to do and doesn’t do what he wants to do. He is struggling out loud the spirit vs the flesh. I want to live by the Spirit. Not the flesh.
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God didn't die for you. Father God CAN NOT DIE.

John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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we can go into those topics I don't mind look. Iv'e come across alot of stuff the reptiles that you speak of are serpents. As far as the rest nephilim spirits or spirits of the offsprings of the fallen angels which are known as demons. Then you have all creation that is vast with multiple creatures that know of the war. Many have sided with Lucifer whothey know is an actual entity. And many have sided with God. Your talking about a creation that has existed beyond when humans were created. A war that has taken place for ages. Some are for God others are against. Vast creatures exist before we ever existed. And the war has existed for a long time. we are just stuck in the middle of it.
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Re: Christians tell me Jesus died for my sins. Why? Why God would you die for me? I am filthy wrags. I don’t deserve such a thing.
Jesus didn't serve the rich. He served the poor, the sinner, the sick, the broken. There is a reason his friends and followers were fisherman, tax collectors, a prostitute. It is because he loved the sinner, which is why he laid down his life for them.
Repent and pay it forward. Serve others. It feels like nothing else.





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