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Can Roman Catholics point to scripture where it states that I must pray to Mary?

 
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I'll tell you what: show me the place in Scripture where it says all religious beliefs should be based on Scripture, and then I'll show you the Scriptural basis for prayers to the saints, including (and especially) Mary.
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The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).
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All activities and spiritual direction should be in harmony with Sacred Scripture, yes. But nowhere in the Bible does it say that Scripture is the only rule of law. The Church gave the world the Bible (in 397 A.D.), not vice versa.

John 21:25. There are also many other things that Jesus did, but if these were to be described individually, I do not think the whole world would contain the books that would be written.

1 Corinthians 11:2. “Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me: and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you."
(referring to verbal, not written, direction)

John 16:8-9, 12-13. “I still have many things to say to you but they would be too much for you now. But when the Spirit comes He will lead you to the complete truth…All He tells you will be taken from what is mine.”

I Timothy 3:15. But if I should be delayed, you should know how to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of truth. (The Bible refers to the Church, and not the Bible, as the "pillar and foundation of the truth”)
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Can you kindly
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Roman Catholics are how we know the Bible is a holy book.
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they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
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A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
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Can you kindly
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Roman Catholics are how we know the Bible is a holy book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13225500


they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
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catholic church took bible away from people in 1000s. and said that pope is god, and people should listen to pope not the bible. anyone who disagreed was killed. inquisition killed millions of people. whore catholic church started to control all religions, invented mary worshiping, candles and donations for spots in heaven . bible was not changed by monks, because God would not let them. people need to study history of first christians. apostles were killed by catholic-satanic "church". Peter was killed in rome by satanic "church".
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sorry we dont play by Bible only rules like the non-catholics
lots more that happened hidden from your view
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Dude, this is literally the explanations catholic teachers give on why they ask Mary to "intercede" - because the water to wine incident shows that Jesus will always hear her out no matter what.

Bottom line:

If you feel Jesus will answer your prayer on its own merits, you can ask him directly.

But if you know deep inside your prayer is unworthy of being answered, you must ask Mary to bugger Jesus about it.

It's kind of pathetic IMO, but to each his own.
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she has Christ as King of her soul
and Christ has enveloped her soul
and She is Queen of Heaven
and aligns her will perfectly with the Fathers will
and is not our Judge
can be our friend At Judgement
praying to Mary is only a problem for people who dont understand
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Did Jesus ever prayed to her? you catholics are fully brainwashed by pedo religion. she is not a queen, she is a human. and you are idol worshipers and satanists. we know who you queen is, its satan. thats why you have so many pagan images in your satanic "churches". thats why your religious leaders are wearing clowns/satanic clothing. and they are destroying lives.
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Denigrate the Mother of Jesus Christ and the Church He instituted at your own peril. But consider what will you will say for yourself when you stand before the Son of Mary and have to give an accounting for your disgraceful actions. Oh, and good luck with that salvation you think is a lock because you are “born again” and once accepted Christ as your “personal Lord and Savior”. You might then find yourself very thankful that there is a place called Purgatory, as opposed to its alternative.
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Roman Catholics are how we know the Bible is a holy book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13225500


they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70175159


catholic church took bible away from people in 1000s. and said that pope is god, and people should listen to pope not the bible. anyone who disagreed was killed. inquisition killed millions of people. whore catholic church started to control all religions, invented mary worshiping, candles and donations for spots in heaven . bible was not changed by monks, because God would not let them. people need to study history of first christians. apostles were killed by catholic-satanic "church". Peter was killed in rome by satanic "church".
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong,
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Roman Catholics are how we know the Bible is a holy book.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13225500


they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70175159


catholic church took bible away from people in 1000s. and said that pope is god, and people should listen to pope not the bible. anyone who disagreed was killed. inquisition killed millions of people. whore catholic church started to control all religions, invented mary worshiping, candles and donations for spots in heaven . bible was not changed by monks, because God would not let them. people need to study history of first christians. apostles were killed by catholic-satanic "church". Peter was killed in rome by satanic "church".
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Now you are really just embarrassing yourself by spouting such absurdities. Stop, for your own sake.
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Re: Can Roman Catholics point to scripture where it states that I must pray to Mary?
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sorry we dont play by Bible only rules like the non-catholics
lots more that happened hidden from your view
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77181668


Dude, this is literally the explanations catholic teachers give on why they ask Mary to "intercede" - because the water to wine incident shows that Jesus will always hear her out no matter what.

Bottom line:

If you feel Jesus will answer your prayer on its own merits, you can ask him directly.

But if you know deep inside your prayer is unworthy of being answered, you must ask Mary to bugger Jesus about it.

It's kind of pathetic IMO, but to each his own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76682145


she has Christ as King of her soul
and Christ has enveloped her soul
and She is Queen of Heaven
and aligns her will perfectly with the Fathers will
and is not our Judge
can be our friend At Judgement
praying to Mary is only a problem for people who dont understand
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77181668


Did Jesus ever prayed to her? you catholics are fully brainwashed by pedo religion. she is not a queen, she is a human. and you are idol worshipers and satanists. we know who you queen is, its satan. thats why you have so many pagan images in your satanic "churches". thats why your religious leaders are wearing clowns/satanic clothing. and they are destroying lives.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453


Do you believe that Catholics intentionally worship Satan secretly and are trying to deceive and damn the world? I hope not because that would be very delusional, it just seemed like that's what you might have been saying.
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they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70175159


catholic church took bible away from people in 1000s. and said that pope is god, and people should listen to pope not the bible. anyone who disagreed was killed. inquisition killed millions of people. whore catholic church started to control all religions, invented mary worshiping, candles and donations for spots in heaven . bible was not changed by monks, because God would not let them. people need to study history of first christians. apostles were killed by catholic-satanic "church". Peter was killed in rome by satanic "church".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

Now you are really just embarrassing yourself by spouting such absurdities. Stop, for your own sake.
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they were hiding bible/truth from people for hundreds of years. they lied to people. satan is a king of lies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

A nonsensical conspiracy theory. Bibles were painstakingly hand-copied by monks, and were owned by the literate clergy who produced them and the wealthy elite. The printing press that enabled mass production of the Bible was not invented until the 15th century; most of the world’s population couldn’t read anyway, so what good would books have done them?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70175159


catholic church took bible away from people in 1000s. and said that pope is god, and people should listen to pope not the bible. anyone who disagreed was killed. inquisition killed millions of people. whore catholic church started to control all religions, invented mary worshiping, candles and donations for spots in heaven . bible was not changed by monks, because God would not let them. people need to study history of first christians. apostles were killed by catholic-satanic "church". Peter was killed in rome by satanic "church".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78207453

Now you are really just embarrassing yourself by spouting such absurdities. Stop, for your own sake.
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truth hurts
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