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What being a TRUE Christian means. Love is as Strong as Death

 
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The purpose of life is to love, and not infatuation or romantic love, its to really love with your heart and soul. Love is like a snowflake, appearing the same at first glance, but when closely inspected they are all unique never to be formed the exact same way again. Love is like a flash of lightning, unexpected and unpredictable, bending twisting and turning. You hear it before it manifests itself. Love is like a flame, that start out small. It can warm you, feed you, or maim you, scar you, and kill you. When properly fueled that small flame can turn into a blaze, annihilating and consuming everything in its path. Love is like a sword, that can attack, defend, and intimidate. IF not properly trained, the user can kill themselves and die by there own sword. Properly trained, it can defend and kill others, or intimidate, not to mention your story of how you use that sword spreads to others, forming an opinion about you and touching many lives, good bad and ugly.

Rejoice at your suffering, suffering teaches you what really matters in life, it doesn't teach your mind, it teaches your heart and soul.

Jesus died because others were jealous and tried to hold onto power, and saw this bloke who truly loved others. instead of shrinking from others people jealousy hate and anger, he accepted it and loved anyways. He loved unconditionally. He died to teach you how to love, that is why he died for you. Follow Him, learn to love, learn to rejoice in your suffering. Learn to see the silver lining and beauty behind love in this fallen world. Perfect Love casts out fear.

Read the book of Ecclesiastes. It teaches that all is meaningless. Nothing done is new or original. It has been done and will be done again. It will not impress god. Our works will be forgotten, the works of our children will be forgotten. Our memory will be forgotten by others. The only thing you can hold onto is your integrity, and who you are as a person. Do not hold yourself up to Man's standards, of fame and success. Know yourself, persecute yourself and truly inspect yourself. Discard your masks, and triggers, swallow your pride. You will then began to act and feel like you should. You will suffer and go through the trials and tribulations that other true Christians go through. When you accept this and rejoice at this, then you will understand glory and be able to stand bold and confidently inside yourself and not be ashamed of who you are. We are ashamed we don't measure up to Man's standard of fame and success and how Man says we should love. Poppycock, its not about trying to impress others, its about staying true to yourself, the true you, and the you, that you truly want to be.

Do not fear that which can kill the body, Fear (respect) that which can kill the soul.

Jesus Appears to Thomas
…28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Thomas had to see the Lords love, and gain wisdom of his suffering when Jesus looked at humanity. Thomas gained that same suffering Jesus had to a small degree. He touched Jesus's wounds. Blessed are those who Love unconditionally without seeing the hurt and pain caused by others who lust after power and fame. They can live ignorantly happy. With much wisdom comes much sorrow.

Have you ever loved somebody so much after you lost them, it destroys your own soul and drives you to madness and folly.

Once you regain your composure you realize your own foolishness, pouring your heart out getting nothing in return. This is true love. Its a warped twisted version of it, but it is a tiny seed of it. You make yourself vulnerable falling on your own sword, refusing to be comforted. This is when God shows his love towards you. You become dead to the world, your eyes are opened to mankinds love of wealth, fame, and power, and it sickens you. You maintain your love for that person, falling deeper and deeper just to be picked up again. In a word, your an Overcomer. Your definition and perspective of love changes. But you know you still loved her, although it was a youthful innocent love. Now its a much wiser and mature love than it was before. You have regrets you can't let go of, not giving 100% of yourself to that person when you had them and knowing they are better off without you.

When we respond anger with anger, we attack a person, we bring them down to exalt ourselves, increasing our pride. pride causes us to blind ourselves and become fools, hardening our hearts. If we respond with love, we convict that person, and they release their anger on themselves, destroying their own pride slowly, which opens their eyes to self inspection, repentance and love.

Matthew 5:38-40 New International Version (NIV)
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.

I draw inspiration from a proverb.

Psalm 45[a]
For the director of music. To the tune of “Lilies.” Of the Sons of Korah. A maskil. A wedding song.
1 My heart is stirred by a noble theme
as I recite my verses for the king;
my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.

2 You are the most excellent of men
and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever.

3 Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.
4 In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.
5 Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies;
let the nations fall beneath your feet.
6 Your throne, O God,[c] will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.
8 All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia;
from palaces adorned with ivory
the music of the strings makes you glad.
9 Daughters of kings are among your honored women;
at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir.

10 Listen, daughter, and pay careful attention:
Forget your people and your father’s house.
11 Let the king be enthralled by your beauty;
honor him, for he is your lord.
12 The city of Tyre will come with a gift,[d]
people of wealth will seek your favor.
13 All glorious is the princess within her chamber;
her gown is interwoven with gold.
14 In embroidered garments she is led to the king;
her virgin companions follow her—
those brought to be with her.
15 Led in with joy and gladness,
they enter the palace of the king.

16 Your sons will take the place of your fathers;
you will make them princes throughout the land.

17 I will perpetuate your memory through all generations;
therefore the nations will praise you for ever and ever

My tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.

I am not good at speaking, but i can express myself through writing.

My name, is the name of Jesus, I know I am on the right path of knowing his name. One night when i was reading Psalms 45, i felt this overwhelming since of love and peace.

My memory of my life and love for this woman, will be perpetuated and outlive all generation because it was true love. Nothing can take that away from me. I remember having these dream where i saw this spirit face to face, and had a conversation with it/him. It looked like me, (maybe i was speaking to my own soul that night). I remember immediately afterward feeling this warm water spread over me. I was wet one second and dry the next. I felt this power, this power I knew nothing could stand in the way of. Immedietely after my baptism, i laid down to go to sleep, and this voice I recognized as the devil came to me. I was slightly afraid, but confident. I then went to sleep and forgot about my baptism until a few months later.

Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.

Ever since then, i have undergone suffering. Lost everything I had, mentally and physically. I lost all my possessions. Lost my father (he abandoned me emotionally), lost my mother (she succommed to a mental illness, bipolar schizophrenia). I lost all who i thought was my friends. I lost my insanity, and was driven to folly and madness, being committed twice to a mental hospital. I've been insulted, saying i've been brainwashed by religion, and been made a sheep.

I know deep down God/Jesus is doing something with me, this is my witness and my testimony. I've been on the brink of homelessness and disaster. I've attempted suicide twice. I've had this passive deathwish for 6 years now (love is as strong as death). Every time, god has found a way to pull me through, to stand me up again, when all i want to do is lay down and die and give up. I'm kicking and screaming and resisting god's will, but he won't give up on me, he keeps dragging me through these trials and tribulations. Everytime he reforms me with the fires of life and love, i gain a new perspective. It is truly beautiful and torturous. If it wasn't for God's love and loyalty for me, and the love I possess for this woman, i'd be dead and gone by now.

Good "Nag Hammadi Library" for Gnostic texts. (gospel of thomas, secret book of james, gospel of mary, etc, gospel of judas, etc.)

Gnostic Texts (early christian writing)

Don't forget to check out the Apocrypha (lost books of the bible, taken out by Early Protestants).

The book of Wisdom is a good read, written by King Solomon

Today/Modern day christian teaches fear, trying to control you. True Christianity is about peace and brotherhood. Helping others deal with their problems. Looking at each others triggers and figuring out the reason behind their anger.

if you seek god, and get no reply. obvious reply. keep seeking. he is testing your will and your patience. to see if your heart is truly sincere or looking for a bandaid. The longer you seek, the more signs you see. listen to that still small voice inside of you. dont listen to preachers, dont listen to people quoting bible verses without explaining them.

True christians preach understand, peace, and love. i can quote a million verses, spin them 7 different ways, yet if your heart is not prepared first, you will be blind to the true teaching.

False prophets preach fear eternal hell, and pain and punishment. the punishment that is coming is self inflicted, its not what god does to you, its how you feel after its all said and done. Let go of your pride, bitterness, and anger. It does not happen overtime, it is a process.

Ok, so you don't like religion, but your angry and want something true. How do you start? Look at your past, your life, discover who you are as a person behind your masks, your triggers. Have a honest conversation with yourself. Discover your negative traits, your weaknesses, your strengths. work on your negative side, find the silver lining. That is crucifying the flesh that jesus teaches.

When you discover your true self, your faults and strengths, you then can began living a life to slowly work on your faults. If you desire knowledge and understand, your eyes will start to open to the true meaning of the word.

If jesus taught plainly, instead of parables (riddles/symbolism) Todays leaders would not let scriptures survive.

Today's religions are fighting each other over pride, and arrogance, jockeying for power. The culture has evolved to be a dog eat dog world, just as the bible said it would. you are a product of that, and when your frustrating of seeking god falls short, you start growing bitter. Take heed what you hear and how you hear.

If anybody comes to you preaching fear, and spouts random bible verses without backing it up, pay them no heed. If a blind man leads a blind man, they both fall into a pit.

that is what religious leaders do today, they are blind, teaching what they learned from their parents and their grandparents.

Its like that game you played when you were younger, you tell somebody a secret, they tell another person, and by the time you hear, its entirely different. Now imagine 2000 years and longer of that game. That is what has happened.

The Witness of Scripture
(Luke 16:19-31)

39You pore over the Scriptures because you presume that by them you possess eternal life. These are the very words that testify about Me, 40yet you refuse to come to Me to have life.

41I do not accept glory from men, 42but I know you, that you do not have the love of God within you. 43I have come in My Father’s name, and you have not received Me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44How can you believe if you accept glory from one another, yet do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?

45Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, in whom you have put your hope. 46If you had believed Moses, you would believe Me, because he wrote about Me. 47But since you do not believe what he wrote, how will you believe what I say?”

Everybody wants to be saved out of Fear of Eternal punishment. Think that is a little extreme.
Think of the regret you would have, if your secret Love told you years later, she wouldve been yours if you made a move on her, but instead she ended up with another man because he made a effort. Think of eternal punishment like that. Wouldn't you have regret, missed your chance, etc. That is hell, you will torture yourself with weeping and gnashing of teeth. Sorrow and regret.

The Narrow Door
…27And he will answer, ‘I tell you, I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers.’ 28There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves are thrown out.


Todays version of Christianity is fucked up. Trust me on this. I hate it. that is nicodemus doctorine mentioned in the book of revelations.

You've been taught a twisted version of Christianity. If i was and evil angel/satan, i'd infiltrate the church and change the meaning, and try to control people by fear.
Pharisees and Saducees, those who follow the scriptures, but do not mean it, or preachers or who preach fear and eternal punishment.


“To the angel[a] of the church in Ephesus write:

These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands. 2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3 You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary.

4 Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. 6 But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

The tree of life is a new perspective of the word, a new attitude about Jesus/god. etc.

Your first love, is your innocence you had as a child, before you saw the world and christianity and religion of how it really is today.

I know your deads, your hard work, and your perserverance. The proccess of truly examining yourself, and not wanting a bandaid, but something true, and not giving up on it.
If you do not repent, and change your attitutude, drop your pride, anger, and stop casting blame, your little candle will dissapear and you will fall again.

Everlasting punishment, is seeing with your eyes open your regrets, and being unable to drop your pride arrogance etc. You persecute yourself, when you see your true self and judge yourself correctly. its nothing god does to you.

Think about it this way. All these owners or corpations. these billionares, and millionares. No matter how much money they have, it is never enough. No matter how much influence and power they have, it is not enough. they are never satisfied. Their greed and lust controls them. they have a insatiable appetite. they miss the little things in life. they feel entitled. you cannot take any of that with you to the grave and beyond. its meaningless. they will feel regret and disappointment. knowing they have no time left to see what really matter. they miss out on the train. That is the punishment, not done by god, but by themselves and the system/culture that is in place.

The everlasting fire, is passion/appetite/lust etc. Its the spark, that fire inside of you that goes out of control. Consuming and destroying everything in its path.


God used the girl I write about is my birth, and death., and resurrection (otherwise i would not have sought out God) Place me like a seal on your heart, like a seal on your arm. For Love is as Strong as Death, Jealousy as Cruel as the Grave. Its flashes are flashes of fire, the very flame of the LORD. If a man would give up all the wealth of his house for love, his offer would utter be scorned. -Song of Songs 8:6

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* youtube - SONG OF SOLOMON 8 hfKJV SCOURBY ...
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When I die, put my ashes in the trash bag
I don't care where they go
Don't waste your money on my gravestone
I'm more concerned about my soul
Everybody's gon' die
Don't everybody live though
Sometimes I look up to the sky
And wonder do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord
Listen, yeah everybody wants change
Don't nobody wanna change though
Don't nobody wanna pray
Till they got something to pray for
Now everybody's gon' die
But don't everybody live though
Sometimes I look up to the sky
And wonder do you see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord
It's easy to blame God but harder to fix things
We look in the sky like, "why ain't You listening?"
Watching the news in our living rooms on the big screens
And talking 'bout "if God's really real, then where is He?"
You see the same God that you saying might not even exist
Becomes real to us, but only when we dying in bed
When ya healthy it's like, we don't really care for Him then
Leave me alone God, I'll call you when I need you again
Which is funny, everyone will sleep in the pews
Then blame God for our problems like He sleeping on you
We turn our backs on Him, what do you expect Him to do?
It's hard to answer prayers when nobody's praying to you
I look around at this world we walk on
It's a smack in the face, don't ever tell me there's no God
And if there isn't then what are we here for?
And what are y'all doing down there? I don't know Lord
Oh Lord, oh Lord, do You see us down here?
Oh Lord, oh Lord
Do You see us down here? Oh Lord
Can You see us down here? Oh Lord
Oh Lord, oh Lord
Can You see us? Can't You see us?

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* youtube - SONG OF SOLOMON 8 hfKJV SCOURBY ...
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Song of Songs written by Solomon when he was younger and innocent.

Ecclesiastes written when he was older and wiser about love.
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True Love is stronger than death.
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I am cursed and Blessed. Its for a girl I loved 8 years ago. Buried her, denied that i still loved her, forced my self to forget her, tried cultivating it with other girls, but the feelings for her kept coming back. Through all the pain and loneliness I feel, i still see the beauty in it. I'll love her BEYOND forever. I might have my regrets throughout life, but ill never be ashamed or regret loving her. I'll see her again in the next life or at the Resurrection. I can stand knowing I know what true love is.

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When we respond anger with anger, we attack a person, we bring them down to exalt ourselves, increasing our pride. pride causes us to blind ourselves and become fools, hardening our hearts. If we respond with love, we convict that person, and they release their anger on themselves, destroying their own pride slowing, which opens their eyes.

Matthew 5:38-40 New International Version (NIV)
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.
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I am cursed and Blessed. Its for a girl I loved 8 years ago. Buried her, denied that i still loved her, forced my self to forget her, tried cultivating it with other girls, but the feelings for her kept coming back. Through all the pain and loneliness I feel, i still see the beauty in it. I'll love her BEYOND forever. I might have my regrets throughout life, but ill never be ashamed or regret loving her. I'll see her again in the next life or at the Resurrection. I can stand knowing I know what true love is.
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“Love will hold on more fierce than graves”

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GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

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THE TRUTH

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EVERY TIME FOREVER

THE TRUTH

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The purpose of life is to love, and not infatuation or romantic love, its to really love with your heart and soul. Love is like a snowflake, appearing the same at first glance, but when closely inspected they are all unique never to be formed the exact same way again. Love is like a flash of lightning, unexpected and unpredictable, bending twisting and turning. You hear it before it manifests itself. Love is like a flame, that start out small. It can warm you, feed you, or maim you, scar you, and kill you. When properly fueled that small flame can turn into a blaze, annihilating and consuming everything in its path. Love is like a sword, that can attack, defend, and intimidate. IF not properly trained, the user can kill themselves and die by there own sword. Properly trained, it can defend and kill others, or intimidate, not to mention your story of how you use that sword spreads to others, forming an opinion about you and touching many lives, good bad and ugly.

Rejoice at your suffering, suffering teaches you what really matters in life, it doesn't teach your mind, it teaches your heart and soul.

Jesus died because others were jealous and tried to hold onto power, and saw this bloke who truly loved others. instead of shrinking from others people jealousy hate and anger, he accepted it and loved anyways. He loved unconditionally. He died to teach you how to love, that is why he died for you. Follow Him, learn to love, learn to rejoice in your suffering. Learn to see the silver lining and beauty behind love in this fallen world. Perfect Love casts out fear.

Read the book of Ecclesiastes. It teaches that all is meaningless. Nothing done is new or original. It has been done and will be done again. It will not impress god. Our works will be forgotten, the works of our children will be forgotten. Our memory will be forgotten by others. The only thing you can hold onto is your integrity, and who you are as a person. Do not hold yourself up to Man's standards, of fame and success. Know yourself, persecute yourself and truly inspect yourself. Discard your masks, and triggers, swallow your pride. You will then began to act and feel like you should. You will suffer and go through the trials and tribulations that other true Christians go through. When you accept this and rejoice at this, then you will understand glory and be able to stand bold and confidently inside yourself and not be ashamed of who you are. We are ashamed we don't measure up to Man's standard of fame and success and how Man says we should love. Poppycock, its not about trying to impress others, its about staying true to yourself, the true you, and the you, that you truly want to be.

Do not fear that which can kill the body, Fear (respect) that which can kill the soul.

Jesus Appears to Thomas
…28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

Thomas had to see the Lords love, and gain wisdom of his suffering when Jesus looked at humanity. Thomas gained that same suffering Jesus had to a small degree. He touched Jesus's wounds. Blessed are those who Love unconditionally without seeing the hurt and pain caused by others who lust after power and fame. They can live ignorantly happy. With much wisdom comes much sorrow.

Have you ever loved somebody so much after you lost them, it destroys your own soul and drives you to madness and folly.

Once you regain your composure you realize your own foolishness, pouring your heart out getting nothing in return. This is true love. Its a warped twisted version of it, but it is a tiny seed of it. You make yourself vulnerable falling on your own sword, refusing to be comforted. This is when God shows his love towards you. You become dead to the world, your eyes are opened to mankinds love of wealth, fame, and power, and it sickens you. You maintain your love for that person, falling deeper and deeper just to be picked up again. In a word, your an Overcomer. Your definition and perspective of love changes. But you know you still loved her, although it was a youthful innocent love. Now its a much wiser and mature love than it was before. You have regrets you can't let go of, not giving 100% of yourself to that person when you had them and knowing they are better off without you.

When we respond anger with anger, we attack a person, we bring them down to exalt ourselves, increasing our pride. pride causes us to blind ourselves and become fools, hardening our hearts. If we respond with love, we convict that person, and they release their anger on themselves, destroying their own pride slowly, which opens their eyes to self inspection, repentance and love.

Matthew 5:38-40 New International Version (NIV)
Eye for Eye
38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’[a] 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well.


Place me like a seal on your heart, like a seal on your arm. For Love is as Strong as Death, Jealousy as Cruel as the Grave. Its flashes are flashes of fire, the very flame of the LORD. If a man would give up all the wealth of his house for love, his offer would utter be scorned. -Song of Songs 8:6
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So how far is your transition process?
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I think i have been given the Morning star. the frost (bitterness) from the long night is still visible, but it is melting. I hear the morning birds singing and see the creatures stirring. The shadows are creeping in, making me have doubts, but i continue to hope and fight. Waiting until it is high noon where no shadows appear and everything is warm again.

24But I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned the so-called deep things of Satan: I will place no further burden upon you. 25Nevertheless, hold fast to what you have until I come. 26And to the one who is victorious and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations. 27He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like potterya —just as I have received authority from My Father. 28And I will give him the morning star.

29He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”



My rod is knowing that i loved her, and not being able to let go of her in my heart. Any other feelings other than love for her is dashed to pieces. She is always with me. Sometimes i feel as if i talk to her in spirit, or her spirit is with me always. it is a struggle. sometimes i think im crazy, but i swear she is there somehow someway, even if her flesh and blood refuse to talk to me.

To the Church in Ephesus
(Acts 19:8-12; Ephesians 1:1-2)

1“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write:

These are the words of Him who holds the seven stars in His right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands.

2I know your deeds, your labor, and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate those who are evil, and you have tested and exposed as liars those who falsely claim to be apostles. 3Without growing weary, you have persevered and endured many things for the sake of My name.

4But I have this against you: You have abandoned your first love. 5Therefore, keep in mind how far you have fallen. Repent and perform the deeds you did at first. But if you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

6But you have this to your credit: You hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

7He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will grant the right to eat from the tree of life in the Paradise of God.

To the Church in Smyrna

8To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:

These are the words of the First and the Last, who died and returned to life.

9I know your affliction and your poverty—though you are rich! And I am aware of the slander of those who falsely claim to be jewish, but are in fact a synagogue of Satan.

10Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Look, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison to test you, and you will suffer tribulation for ten days. Be faithful even unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.

11He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who is victorious will not be harmed by the second death.

To the Church in Pergamum

12To the angel of the church in Pergamum write:

These are the words of the One who holds the sharp, double-edged sword.

13I know where you live, where the throne of Satan sits. Yet you have held fast to My name and have not denied your faith in Me, even in the day when My faithful witness Antipas was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

14But I have a few things against you, because some of you hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to place a stumbling block before the Israelites so they would eat food sacrificed to idols and commit sexual immorality. 15In the same way, some of you also hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16Therefore repent! Otherwise I will come to you shortly and wage war against them with the sword of My mouth.

17He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone inscribed with a new name, known only to the one who receives it.

To the Church in Thyatira
(Acts 16:11-15)

18To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like a blazing fire and whose feet are like polished bronze.

19I know your deeds—your love, your faith, your service, your perseverance—and your latter deeds are greater than your first.

20But I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads My servants to be sexually immoral and to eat food sacrificed to idols. 21Even though I have given her time to repent of her immorality, she is unwilling.

22Behold, I will cast her onto a bed of sickness, and those who commit adultery with her will suffer great tribulation unless they repent of her deeds. 23Then I will strike her children dead, and all the churches will know that I am the One who searches minds and hearts, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

24But I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned the so-called deep things of Satan: I will place no further burden upon you. 25Nevertheless, hold fast to what you have until I come. 26And to the one who is victorious and continues in My work until the end, I will give authority over the nations. 27He will rule them with an iron scepter and shatter them like potterya —just as I have received authority from My Father. 28And I will give him the morning star.

29He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

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thank you for the songs posted. I really felt something. true love is not taught, it is not explained. It is felt, used, needed, and known. When the lightbulb comes on, it comes on. Many people seek it, few find it and understand it. It is not sunshine and rainbows. but it is beautiful, and it is permanent. it cannot be taken away. It is rebellious, it is capable and willing to withstand the full wrath of the Almighty and still live on unashamed.
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Beautifully said OP. I have tried to express that idea, but don't seem to have the flair for that philosophy. Perhaps it is because I have a problem with turning the other cheek thing.

5 stars and may God bless you.
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Beautifully said OP. I have tried to express that idea, but don't seem to have the flair for that philosophy. Perhaps it is because I have a problem with turning the other cheek thing.

5 stars and may God bless you.
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Thank you. I draw inspiration from a proverb.

Psalm 45[a]
For the director of music. To the tune of “Lilies.” Of the Sons of Korah. A maskil. A wedding song.
1 My heart is stirred by a noble theme
as I recite my verses for the king;
my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.

2 You are the most excellent of men
and your lips have been anointed with grace,
since God has blessed you forever.

3 Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one;
clothe yourself with splendor and majesty.
4 In your majesty ride forth victoriously
in the cause of truth, humility and justice;
let your right hand achieve awesome deeds.
5 Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies;
let the nations fall beneath your feet.
6 Your throne, O God,[c] will last for ever and ever;
a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.
7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.
8 All your robes are fragrant with myrrh and aloes and cassia;
from palaces adorned with ivory
the music of the strings makes you glad.
9 Daughters of kings are among your honored women;
at your right hand is the royal bride in gold of Ophir.

10 Listen, daughter, and pay careful attention:
Forget your people and your father’s house.
11 Let the king be enthralled by your beauty;
honor him, for he is your lord.
12 The city of Tyre will come with a gift,[d]
people of wealth will seek your favor.
13 All glorious is the princess within her chamber;
her gown is interwoven with gold.
14 In embroidered garments she is led to the king;
her virgin companions follow her—
those brought to be with her.
15 Led in with joy and gladness,
they enter the palace of the king.

16 Your sons will take the place of your fathers;
you will make them princes throughout the land.

17 I will perpetuate your memory through all generations;
therefore the nations will praise you for ever and ever

My tongue is the pen of a skillful writer.

I am not good at speaking, but i can express myself through writing.

My name, is the name of Jesus, I know I am on the right path of knowing his name. One night when i was reading, i felt this overwhelming since of love and peace.

My memory of my life and love for this woman, will be perpetuated and outlive all generation because it was true love. Nothing can take that away from me. I remember having these dream where i saw this spirit face to face, and had a conversation with it/him. It looked like me, (maybe i was speaking to my own soul that night). I remember immediately afterward feeling this warm water spread over me. I was wet one second and dry the next. I felt this power, this power I knew nothing could stand in the way of. Immedietely after my baptism, i laid down to go to sleep, and this voice I recognized as the devil came to me. I was slightly afraid, but confident. I then went to sleep and forgot about my baptism until a few months later.

Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit.

Ever since then, i have undergone suffering. Lost everything I had, mentally and physically. I lost all my possessions. Lost my father (he abandoned me emotionally), lost my mother (she succommed to a mental illness, bipolar schizophrenia). I lost all who i thought was my friends. I lost my insanity, and was driven to folly and madness, being committed twice to a mental hospital. I've been insulted, saying i've been brainwashed by religion, and been made a sheep.

I know deep down God/Jesus is doing something with me, this is my witness and my testimony. I've been on the brink of homelessness and disaster. I've attempted suicide twice. I've had this passive deathwish for 6 years now (love is as strong as death). Every time, god has found a way to pull me through, to stand me up again, when all i want to do is lay down and die and give up. I'm kicking and screaming and resisting god's will, but he won't give up on me, he keeps dragging me through these trials and tribulations. Everytime he reforms me with the fires of life and love, i gain a new perspective. It is truly beautiful and torturous. If it wasn't for God's love and loyalty for me, and the love I possess for this woman, i'd be dead and gone by now.





GLP