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The Trump administration intends to propose a regulation next year that would require all travelers - including U.S. citizens - to be photographed when entering or leaving the United States, according to the administration's regulatory agenda.

The proposed regulation, slated to be issued in July by the Homeland Security Department, would be part of a broader system to track travelers as they enter and exit the United States.

The plan has already drawn opposition from some privacy advocates. Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union, blasted the idea in a written statement on Monday.


"Travelers, including U.S. citizens, should not have to submit to invasive biometric scans simply as a condition of exercising their constitutional right to travel," he said.


The Trump administration contends in its regulatory agenda that the face scan requirement will combat the fraudulent use of U.S. travel documents and aid the identification of criminals and suspected terrorists.
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Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
 Quoting: diverdan01


Hell not just that , smart phones with cameras. You give them access to your contacts, pics, calls emails texts just to play Candy Crush or Stupid Zombies... I have said many times we choose to give our rights away all the time !!!!

Last Edited by Coastie Patriot on 12/03/2019 02:06 PM
Coastie Patriot

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They:
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Real ID, already happening.
Mandatory by 2020 October.
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Real ID, already happening.
Mandatory by 2020 October.
 Quoting: MissCleo


this as well, forgot about that, if you wanna travel out of country have to have it. interesting it is a gold star, where have we seen that before
Coastie Patriot

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They:
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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thanks for the pine
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It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They:
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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They've already been doing this for every foreign traveler into the US. The idiots have created such a mess at every US airport that wait times are now starting to surpass half the day. Now even stupid Asian countries copy the US causing serious delays at their airports now.

Meanwhile I go to Europe, it takes me 1 minute to get through the airport.
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why not
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Real ID, already happening.
Mandatory by 2020 October.
 Quoting: MissCleo


this as well, forgot about that, if you wanna travel out of country have to have it. interesting it is a gold star, where have we seen that before
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Not true. You just need your passport.
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Scan this! ---> s226
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
 Quoting: diverdan01


Hell not just that , smart phones with cameras. You give them access to your contacts, pics, calls emails texts just to play Candy Crush or Stupid Zombies... I have said many times we choose to give our rights away all the time !!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


On top of that you don't really think red light cams were installed to write tickets do you? They know every car coming in and going out. Total 1984 already. I bet when you draw blood at the Dr for your annual physical DNA gets sent to some 3 letter agency as well.
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
 Quoting: diverdan01


Hell not just that , smart phones with cameras. You give them access to your contacts, pics, calls emails texts just to play Candy Crush or Stupid Zombies... I have said many times we choose to give our rights away all the time !!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


On top of that you don't really think red light cams were installed to write tickets do you? They know every car coming in and going out. Total 1984 already. I bet when you draw blood at the Dr for your annual physical DNA gets sent to some 3 letter agency as well.
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Who has annual physicals, and even then, why are they taking blood? The idea is to be healthy and stay that way, so don't assault the body!
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
 Quoting: diverdan01


Hell not just that , smart phones with cameras. You give them access to your contacts, pics, calls emails texts just to play Candy Crush or Stupid Zombies... I have said many times we choose to give our rights away all the time !!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


On top of that you don't really think red light cams were installed to write tickets do you? They know every car coming in and going out. Total 1984 already. I bet when you draw blood at the Dr for your annual physical DNA gets sent to some 3 letter agency as well.
 Quoting: diverdan01


License plate readers are everywhere, in cop cars, road signs, traffic lites and private dicks cars.
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how's that freedom taste?
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Now look, I am the first peron to be against any coverts surveillance, but I don't see what is the deal here.

I mean, if you want to travel, you need to have a passport, for which you have to give up your biometric data as well as take a picture for it.

So this, I understand, is only somekind of security check to see if the person using the passport matches the passport.

I don't see the big deal with taking 2 pictures instead of one.
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Coastie..you don't really think this isn't happening already? Photo ID's? I'm pretty sure we have all be scanned.
 Quoting: diverdan01


Hell not just that , smart phones with cameras. You give them access to your contacts, pics, calls emails texts just to play Candy Crush or Stupid Zombies... I have said many times we choose to give our rights away all the time !!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


On top of that you don't really think red light cams were installed to write tickets do you? They know every car coming in and going out. Total 1984 already. I bet when you draw blood at the Dr for your annual physical DNA gets sent to some 3 letter agency as well.
 Quoting: diverdan01


License plate readers on the interstates are how they found the WDBJ 7 live news shooter so fast. Look at all the "traffic cams" the next time you are on an interstate, hell local roads for that matter!!1
Coastie Patriot

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They:
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Hmmm.

Trump was interviewed and on news this morning slamming French President M for criticising NATO, yet Trump told us voters that he was disgusted by NATO for not paying their share.

The man presenting as Trump on the news this morning did not look like Trump. The man this morning appeared puffy with a bad comb-over and low-energy.

Wasn't the real Trump reportedly admitted to Walter Reed Hospital a couple weeks ago?

Now THIS Homeland decision against our civil rights! Trump promised us Homeland Security should be abolished, but now this horrid insult.

I am concerned. Is there a body-double?





wtf
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You mean to tell me they haven't been doing this for at least a decade?

whatever
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Fine with me. Makes sense.
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Since I'm not a CRIMINAL I am fine with this and hope it comes sooner rather than later as the country is going to hell real fast
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Hmmm.

Trump was interviewed and on news this morning slamming French President M for criticising NATO, yet Trump told us voters that he was disgusted by NATO for not paying their share.

The man presenting as Trump on the news this morning did not look like Trump. The man this morning appeared puffy with a bad comb-over and low-energy.

Wasn't the real Trump reportedly admitted to Walter Reed Hospital a couple weeks ago?

Now THIS Homeland decision against our civil rights! Trump promised us Homeland Security should be abolished, but now this horrid insult.

I am concerned. Is there a body-double?





wtf
 Quoting: White Gloves 76018003


Trump criticized Macron for making accusations of aiding and abetting ISIS to a fellow NATO member. Trump's stance on country's paying their fair share has nothing to do with this and hasn't changed.
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how's that freedom taste?
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Did you say this after we increased security post-9/11 too? What's your problem? Mexican drug cartels are kidnapping and murdering children. There is an epidemic on some Native American reservations. Still butthurt about the Revolutionary War?
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They're already doing this with REALID and Enhanced ID driver's licenses, as well as passports. So now they want MORE pictures?!? They are never happy. Talk about a liar-douchebag-run nazi police state.
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Real ID, already happening.
Mandatory by 2020 October.
 Quoting: MissCleo


this as well, forgot about that, if you wanna travel out of country have to have it. interesting it is a gold star, where have we seen that before
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


.

To travel Out of the Country One must Have a Pass Port.

The Real ID is for Domestic Air Travel Not to Leave the Country.

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fuck this cocksucker trump
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Really powerful, thought-provoking comment here.
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Real ID, already happening.
Mandatory by 2020 October.
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this as well, forgot about that, if you wanna travel out of country have to have it. interesting it is a gold star, where have we seen that before
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Nope, you need REALID to fly domestically also, you need it by 10/2020 just to get on ANY plane.
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