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Why Sexual Morality May be Far More Important than You Ever Thought

 
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Chemical slaves.
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This is a complete joke played on Humankind.

On one hand you have sex used as only a means to keep the species going, thus allowing for survival. (Like the Vulcans do it) yeah,i know.

On the other hand to keep a species alive and miltiplying well is pure carnal and leads to idioacracy.

What glass are we observed through?
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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BS bsflag

Love which physical emanation is sex is essential force of creation, not only of offspring but anything what can be "build" in life.

Secret societies and highly advanced individuals use tantric practices and or sexual magic to bind the world around to their will.

Orgasmic spark is a spark of creational force of "God" as this is a sample of loving energy used in creation of all life including interactions and opportunities between the living their time on Earch.

Ancient cultures were flourishing in their sexual lives and were much more advanced technically, medically and socially than medieval cultures which abstained from sex and had much constraints implanted by a christian churches which since their inception were of evil purpose: wolf's clothed as sheep to destroy and corrupt mankind by controlling and editing teachings of Christ and prophets to bad will of their hellish principals.

OP just copy pasted some BS book coming from man who either was disinfo agent or just totally wrong.Also giving examples of "civilizations" of XX century is completely without point as progress of those had nothing to do with sexual life and it is actually blatant lie while looking at present world countries and their advancement and society in relation to sexual life.

Relating sex to something wrong is one of biggest devil tricks to divide and destroy mankind by separating relationship between female and male polarities which is of divine nature.

1 star for hot headed copy paste moran post.
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More conservatives cultures have always conquered liberal cultures.
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liberal and leftist are not the same thing at all, nor are conservative and right wing
An entirely conservative culture would be unable to make positive changes, a completely liberal culture would be unable to preserve necessary moral and cultural norms that have taken centuries of liberal thinking and conservative conservation of the progress to develop. I'm sure the first guy to suggest raping babies in ancient Babylon was wrong was seen as a radical liberal. The point is a well balanced and successful culture is conservative when it has to be and liberal when it has to be.

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Did you notice the very interesting correlation between sexual "freedom" and a person's ability to think logically? How many posts on here have criticized the younger generations for not being able to think logically? This is right on point:

"The swiftness with which rational thinking declined after the 1970’s is astounding. In its place arose post-modernism, characterized by “scepticism, subjectivism, or relativism” and “a general suspicion of reason”.[9] But it gets worse … post-modernism is giving way to “post truth”. In direct contrast to rational thinking, a post-truth culture abandons “shared objective standards for truth” and instead, stands on appeals to feelings and emotions, and what one wants to believe.[10] People can now “identify” themselves as something which flat-out contradicts science and rational thinking and, in many cases, receive the full support and backing of governments and educational systems. Not only do people feel they have a right to believe what they want, but any challenge to that belief, even if supported by truth and logic, is unacceptable and offensive. Here is a quote from Unwin that has become particularly a propos in the last couple decades since our own sexual revolution …"

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Monogamy is the way to go. My wife works at a Doctor's office and you would not believe the sheer numbers of STD+ people walking around spreading their shit all over. HIV is the big one and there are a lot more HIV+ people out there than you think. Syphillis is also making a comeback believe it or not. Then there's classics like the Crabs and the Clap. Those are small potatoes nowadays, but still lots of it out there.

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Eww, crabs and clap potatoes? No thanks
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I am single and I haven't had a fucking in over 55 years so I guess I'm Ok.
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The Enemy knows and that is why they pervert our children any way they can at every level. The institutions have been compromised. It is up to each family to raise our children in Christian doctrine and morals and together we can try to correct the trend.
 Quoting: Weyoun

^^^^^^it is an attack ^^^^^^
I love this!


Let’s blame some sexual factor!

How often do you think about money?

How often do you think about sex?


The creation of money and its management is primary to the sexual urge.

Economists and biologists are not related.


Your government will likely kill you no matter of your sexual habits.


Your welcome!
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Why do dumbazz people congratulate their selves and say "you're welcome" when they have just said some stupid thing to justify something stupid they do?


It will continue to divide and degenerate, we aren't halfway to crashdown yet. But? They deserve it?
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libs, lefties, atheists still think the Bible is some joke

Joke is on them. God is watching.
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In my almost 60 years of life, there is nothing I can come up with to dismiss the conclusions presented.

To let our basest instincts control our daily lives means that we have very little energy or interest in science, philosophy, and the betterment of our planet.
 Quoting: FissionSurplus

More people are going to college now than ever before with a huge student debt. That tells me they aren’t fucking their way through college. Other races are outbreeding the middle working class. I’m still trying to figure this information out. IDK! When I look at the tribal Middle East and the poverty of some countries, it seems there is a correlation with an abundance of natural resources as benefits to a successful hardworking society. It seems to me as humanity gains mobility people relocate to having more abundance and opportunity as we see in the US now. And anchoring their babies here also with very little thought to the number of children they produce.
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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 Quoting: (:-DeeZe


BS bsflag

Love which physical emanation is sex is essential force of creation, not only of offspring but anything what can be "build" in life.

Secret societies and highly advanced individuals use tantric practices and or sexual magic to bind the world around to their will.

Orgasmic spark is a spark of creational force of "God" as this is a sample of loving energy used in creation of all life including interactions and opportunities between the living their time on Earch.

Ancient cultures were flourishing in their sexual lives and were much more advanced technically, medically and socially than medieval cultures which abstained from sex and had much constraints implanted by a christian churches which since their inception were of evil purpose: wolf's clothed as sheep to destroy and corrupt mankind by controlling and editing teachings of Christ and prophets to bad will of their hellish principals.

OP just copy pasted some BS book coming from man who either was disinfo agent or just totally wrong.Also giving examples of "civilizations" of XX century is completely without point as progress of those had nothing to do with sexual life and it is actually blatant lie while looking at present world countries and their advancement and society in relation to sexual life.

Relating sex to something wrong is one of biggest devil tricks to divide and destroy mankind by separating relationship between female and male polarities which is of divine nature.

1 star for hot headed copy paste moran post.
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^wants to keep fornicating. Weakness
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Many people think the Turks had some great inventions, but those were actually stolen from the Greeks.
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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Orthodoxy prevails
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I have 3 women who I have sex with and they all know each other and are okay with it.
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The up side to absolute monogamy is real bonding. The down side? What if you aren't really a match?

Divorce has to exist. But bad choice in mate, immature relationships, they are indeed the product of the "free love" social engineering. But let's face it people grow and sometimes their mate doesn't grow with them.
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So by this logic, the sexually-prudish Muslims will dominate one Western civilization collapses?
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Muslims are prudish? Your're a goddamn crackhead
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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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At one point God destroyed the whole world and he's gonna do it again.
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More conservatives cultures have always conquered liberal cultures.
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Therefore we had to be attacked from within, to enforce liberalism.
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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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At one point God destroyed the whole world and he's gonna do it again.
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He promised Noah that he would never do that again, wiping out the whole world. But He can do quite a bit of destruction. He could redo the destruction of the Tower of Babel, or of Sodom and Gomorrah, or of the Temple (although the next Temple is supposed to be permanent) ...

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Many people think the Turks had some great inventions, but those were actually stolen from the Greeks.
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The Greeks actually invented sex. It was the Italians, however, who introduced it to women.
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Camille Paglia pointed out that enabling 'transgender' preceded every societal collapse. It's a predictor only it can be stopped. Tranny crap and Weimar decadence was actually what helped the Nazis get elected. People were sick of it and thought it would only get worse if left unchecked.


In my almost 60 years of life, there is nothing I can come up with to dismiss the conclusions presented.

To let our basest instincts control our daily lives means that we have very little energy or interest in science, philosophy, and the betterment of our planet.
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This is why older people tend to be more conservative. Life experience give a longer view. We can personally witness and compare the outcomes of liberal vs conservative family members and friends, and the huge differences Life Choices make vs everything else.

The more liberal types seem in general unhappier, more medicated, more health problems, lonelier and more alienated, while the conservative ones tend to have tighter and deeper social ties and are overall more content. They find the sacrifices they made worth it. While those who sacrificed nothing...receive nothing.
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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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At one point God destroyed the whole world and he's gonna do it again.
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He promised Noah that he would never do that again, wiping out the whole world. But He can do quite a bit of destruction. He could redo the destruction of the Tower of Babel, or of Sodom and Gomorrah, or of the Temple (although the next Temple is supposed to be permanent) ...
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But it’s a cycle.
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No it's not.

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Regardless what a person thinks about religion, the foundations of control have always had a morality impact on society. People in general need guidance and the structure of religion, until its bastardized, is a good foundation offering principles and an outline of how that society, where you live, functions. Religion is just a collection of common or shared ideas that have grown. The rogue elements destroyed the idea of commonality.
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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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At one point God destroyed the whole world and he's gonna do it again.
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He promised Noah that he would never do that again, wiping out the whole world. But He can do quite a bit of destruction. He could redo the destruction of the Tower of Babel, or of Sodom and Gomorrah, or of the Temple (although the next Temple is supposed to be permanent) ...
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He said never again destroy the whole world by another flood

however, other options are still available

and Peter says it's gonna be an extremely big and hot fire
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Casual sex is chasing an oxytocin and nitric oxide high that's very similar to crack cocaine, a strong rush that lasts a short time.

Watching porn works very similar in the brain to that of cocaine.

It used to be you had to love a person, work hard for their affection, know their character and personality for that high, now people give it out like a drug and it destroys what sex should be about, a deeper way to be intimate with someone you love, creating children.

We are in a sick place where a human child has become nothing more than an unwanted side effect to be slaughtered. Put our hands over our eyes and pretend it's a clump of cells. It's really insanity and terrifying how we got to this point.
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More conservatives cultures have always conquered liberal cultures.
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Conquered?? The always. libtards disintegrate and fall apart from within. No morality, no integrity, no backbone.

Whats to conquer? Just sitback and watch them collapse in three generations. how many generations has it been since the 1960's ??
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the literature suggested a generation was 33 years. but that was during a moral society with the sexual restraints.

in a sexually immoral society the time per generation may greatly reduce with offspring born much earlier. in that case a generation may be as short as 14 years. though I suggest a generations time today is 20 years.
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yes, amazing book, great thread

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What happens when the entire world is leftist communist and has no morality? Who conquers that? Perhaps ET has already conquered this planet and global slavery is the result.
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At one point God destroyed the whole world and he's gonna do it again.
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He promised Noah that he would never do that again, wiping out the whole world. But He can do quite a bit of destruction. He could redo the destruction of the Tower of Babel, or of Sodom and Gomorrah, or of the Temple (although the next Temple is supposed to be permanent) ...
 Quoting: oniongrass


"I establish My covenant with you; and all flesh shall never again be cut off by the water of the flood, neither shall there again be a flood to destroy the earth" Genesis 9:11

"through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men." 2 Peter 3:6-7

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up." 2 Peter 3:10

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