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Why Sexual Morality May be Far More Important than You Ever Thought

 
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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BS bsflag

Love which physical emanation is sex is essential force of creation, not only of offspring but anything what can be "build" in life.

Secret societies and highly advanced individuals use tantric practices and or sexual magic to bind the world around to their will.

Orgasmic spark is a spark of creational force of "God" as this is a sample of loving energy used in creation of all life including interactions and opportunities between the living their time on Earch.

Ancient cultures were flourishing in their sexual lives and were much more advanced technically, medically and socially than medieval cultures which abstained from sex and had much constraints implanted by a christian churches which since their inception were of evil purpose: wolf's clothed as sheep to destroy and corrupt mankind by controlling and editing teachings of Christ and prophets to bad will of their hellish principals.

OP just copy pasted some BS book coming from man who either was disinfo agent or just totally wrong.Also giving examples of "civilizations" of XX century is completely without point as progress of those had nothing to do with sexual life and it is actually blatant lie while looking at present world countries and their advancement and society in relation to sexual life.

Relating sex to something wrong is one of biggest devil tricks to divide and destroy mankind by separating relationship between female and male polarities which is of divine nature.

1 star for hot headed copy paste moran post.
 Quoting: Vikini


Absolute and total bullshit. The nonsense you believe about ancient civilizations is almost beyond belief. All you have to do is look at how sexual mores have changed over the past 60-70 years and what a terribly negative impact that change has had on society to know that you either don't understand the OP or you're intentionally trying to obfuscate the truth of the situation.

Sexual energy is divine and incredibly powerful, yet Satan has convinced so many people in this world to treat it as meaningless. You'll have no idea what I'm talking about until you stop watching porn and masturbating. We've been taught that both are just fine but that's a very dangerous lie. Porn is one of the Devil's most effective weapons and sexual transmutation is real and remarkably powerful. The truth of the OP is incontrovertible.
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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What I found interesting is Unwin's definition of "deism." To him it is belief in G-d/G-ds. AFAIK, the traditional definition of deism is the belief that G-d created the Earth and universe but then stepped back and left it to its own devices----G-d does not actively interfere in the world and his creations, so to speak. Sometimes this gets close to the idea that aside from there being a G-d, there is no life after death----akin somewhat to Epicureanism.

This is a "different" definition somewhat.


Also Unwin seems to forget that rationalism and common sense can often be the same thing. I'm sure the Polynesians were "rational" in their own way. As were the Chinese, Egyptians, Indians, and Sumerians as well. And spiritually, they were miles ahead of us, to be honest. Spirituality and philosophy did not begin with Greece, the Hebrews, and Romans, folks.


Also---
Kierkegaard was right. Life and how we interpret it is subjective. What may be "rationalistic" to one culture may NOT be "rationalistic" to another.

Ancient Greek and Egyptian cultures encouraged their daughters to remain virgins until married but not young men.
Anyway, it was not MANDATED like it was in Christian culture. (That would seem to be the problem overall).

That and the ancient double-standard of demanding a standard of purity for one sex while it did not the other is troubling. And yes, I understand that "times were not as 'progressive' then." eyeroll2

These were pagan cultures yet they did pretty well with modified chastity laws. Egypt particularly, since it lasted thousands of years.

So ultimately this APPARENT elevation by Unwin of the Judeo-Christian ideal of morality (i.e., state-and-church-sanctioned sexual regulation) seems to me one-sided and unfair. I, as a pagan, have to express my reserved criticism of it.

Just some random thoughts.
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Regardless what a person thinks about religion, the foundations of control have always had a morality impact on society. People in general need guidance and the structure of religion, until its bastardized, is a good foundation offering principles and an outline of how that society, where you live, functions. Religion is just a collection of common or shared ideas that have grown. The rogue elements destroyed the idea of commonality.
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Agreed,and I've said similar before.
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No Duh!

Sexual reproduction is the most important and most sacred thing in life. Obviously.

The strong bond between a man and a woman is infinitely stronger than any old friendship bond between two people. Stronger in terms of the depths of intelligence about life, family, and community, and the ability to meet life's challenges with spirit and creativity. It also teaches the children raised in good and effective families how to make effective families of their own. A good marriage redoubles the masculine and feminine aspects of husband and wife, especially when there are children.

Marriage also removes men and women from a dangerously unstable phase in their lives, when they anxiously search, play emotional and psychological games, experiment with desperate ploys for attention, compete too desperately in the sexual market, damage their sexual health, contemplate suicide, and generally lose their minds and hearts because neither man nor woman was meant to live alone.

As long as we have physical bodies, we are bound by nature to do what is most natural and healthy, and to consider the needs of children to be taught how to live as human beings.

Back to basics. Nothing is more sacred to human survival than the basic fact that we need married men and women to have healthy babies and to raise them well, learning what it takes to become a parent and to raise children.

It is important to remember that not one of us would be alive today if there weren't a long line of parents, or mothers and fathers, who made a decision to work together on raising children.

Only crazy or stupid or evil people would ...
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Whenever a civilisation comes out of struggling, scarcity phase of it's survival and it is not mainly preoccupied with it it faces a problem:
What's next?

If you do not have an equally balanced spiritual side of the culture but just technological, it collapses into nihilism and self destruction via hedonism.

Balance is key in everything, we haven't learned this yet in thousands of years that's why cultures collapse.

We will collapse as well.
Probably Mad Max is what's next.
Lol good luck to the elites, they will have to get used to stone age as well lol.
Fucking idiots broke society again.
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I've seen the lowest of the low and the highest of the high.
In 100% of the things I've seen is purely due to the abuse of the sex function. Conscience gradually dims until it no longer guides, then any perversion is possible. Remember, you can only be helped if you allow yourself to be helped.

I once could sit in meditation for 3 hours straight. Only at this level can true understanding come.
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
I did it. I did it on purpose. And I'll do it again.
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If I remember well, Herodotus wrote about the Scythian tribe Agathyrsi that they "shared wives", they also dyed their hair blue and actually were regarded as "the most exquisite people" Apparently there is archeological evidence (don't know how this was figured out) that Agathyrsi (Lusatian) women shaved themselves. In other words, this was a very progressive society already some 2500 years ago. Anyway, Agathyrsi (one of three main Scythian tribes along with Gelones (Gerros-Harii, i.e. highlanders) and steppe Scythians refused to join the rest in their hwar against Persians. So, following the war against Persians the steppe Scythians carried out a kind of a retaliatory invasion on Agathyrsi (Lusatians), which basically led to the collapse of the whole culture, as has been shown by archeological evidence.

On another occasion the infidelity of the wives of Scythian warriors and leaders who were away fighting a war actually led to the collapse of unified rule over Great Scythia.

If you want another source on Scythia apart from Herodotus, you can always read about... Kingdom of the North in the bible.
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I love this!


Let’s blame some sexual factor!

How often do you think about money?

How often do you think about sex?


The creation of money and its management is primary to the sexual urge.

Economists and biologists are not related.


Your government will likely kill you no matter of your sexual habits.


Your welcome!
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In a good life, we find a mate and have our sexual needs fulfilled regularly. No further waste of energy seeking a new set of complementary genitals. From that time onward, you operate as a team fulfilling your mutual desires and each others'.

In a fucked up world, your told that you have "free" sex. All is fine until you try to get it, and find that you need 10 years education in how to act, perform, beg, and appear. Then you get to fuck and have to do it right or you lose your lover. If she gets bored, she leaves for another and you rinse and repeat. Life becomes about earning enough to impress, while leaving enough time to prospect for new sexual opportunities. There's nobody home making it worthwhile building anything at all.

It sounds wrong, but the only way thihgs can work is for society to force heterosexual pairing for life. If people can't figure it out, then it needs to be arranged and enforced.

Without a women at home keeping his balls drained, a man has no incentive to create anything, and certainly no interest in civilization at all.
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
 Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom


Then why does the Bible say that there is no greater love than to sacrifice one's life for another?

Staying home with the wife, the kids, and taking the dog
for a walk twice a day isn't laying down your life.
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lol basically you're saying the west is fucked because we allowed women to vote? i'll agree with that
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
 Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom


Then why does the Bible say that there is no greater love than to sacrifice one's life for another?

Staying home with the wife, the kids, and taking the dog
for a walk twice a day isn't laying down your life.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


That's a stretch and a weak one at that. You presume to translate for Jesus? You think by 'laying down your life' he was talking about empire building at some corporate office or stacking boxes at a warehouse? I highly doubt it.

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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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 Quoting: (:-DeeZe


BS bsflag

Love which physical emanation is sex is essential force of creation, not only of offspring but anything what can be "build" in life.

Secret societies and highly advanced individuals use tantric practices and or sexual magic to bind the world around to their will.

Orgasmic spark is a spark of creational force of "God" as this is a sample of loving energy used in creation of all life including interactions and opportunities between the living their time on Earch.

Ancient cultures were flourishing in their sexual lives and were much more advanced technically, medically and socially than medieval cultures which abstained from sex and had much constraints implanted by a christian churches which since their inception were of evil purpose: wolf's clothed as sheep to destroy and corrupt mankind by controlling and editing teachings of Christ and prophets to bad will of their hellish principals.

OP just copy pasted some BS book coming from man who either was disinfo agent or just totally wrong.Also giving examples of "civilizations" of XX century is completely without point as progress of those had nothing to do with sexual life and it is actually blatant lie while looking at present world countries and their advancement and society in relation to sexual life.

Relating sex to something wrong is one of biggest devil tricks to divide and destroy mankind by separating relationship between female and male polarities which is of divine nature.

1 star for hot headed copy paste moran post.
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Absolute and total bullshit. The nonsense you believe about ancient civilizations is almost beyond belief. All you have to do is look at how sexual mores have changed over the past 60-70 years and what a terribly negative impact that change has had on society to know that you either don't understand the OP or you're intentionally trying to obfuscate the truth of the situation.

Sexual energy is divine and incredibly powerful, yet Satan has convinced so many people in this world to treat it as meaningless. You'll have no idea what I'm talking about until you stop watching porn and masturbating. We've been taught that both are just fine but that's a very dangerous lie. Porn is one of the Devil's most effective weapons and sexual transmutation is real and remarkably powerful. The truth of the OP is incontrovertible.
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clappa

It's essential to some powerful forces that the western world continue its descent into chaos and final self destruction.
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
 Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom


Then why does the Bible say that there is no greater love than to sacrifice one's life for another?

Staying home with the wife, the kids, and taking the dog
for a walk twice a day isn't laying down your life.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883

Christianity is essentially anti-family:

Matthew 19:29 New International Version (NIV)

29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[a] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life."

Pagan beliefs were strictly pro-family, focused on fertility and growth of families. The spread of christianity destroyed tribal, clan and big family ties among Europeans.
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
 Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom


Then why does the Bible say that there is no greater love than to sacrifice one's life for another?

Staying home with the wife, the kids, and taking the dog
for a walk twice a day isn't laying down your life.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883

If you have to sacrifice, then you can make that choice.

In general though it's not necessary and better to keep things intact. Even under stress I like Patton's line about it being better to make the other bastard die for his country than for you to die for yours.
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Clearly, Western european and scandinaivian (EU) countries/cultures are leading the way in this decline
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Well this is good to know when nearly 50... chuckle
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People are forgetting that there is a psychic bank account
with only a set amount of energy available to draw upon.

Therefore,,, the more sacred one makes his spouse and children, and house and wider family, and friends and community, since it all bundles up that way incl. pets,
- the less sacred a person's own business and private interests become.

I know this for a fact.

The more love and energy a person invests in his career, the
less love and energy a spouse/family will receive.

It's the other side of the coin.

Family life really imposes a heavy burden on the advancement
of careers. So, it seems like people are promoting a lifestyle that halts progress, rather than promotes progress.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883


Careers are overrated. Life is not about a job. It's about living. Who better to live it with than family?
 Quoting: Festus Hoggbottom


Then why does the Bible say that there is no greater love than to sacrifice one's life for another?

Staying home with the wife, the kids, and taking the dog
for a walk twice a day isn't laying down your life.
 Quoting: tamarack 78189883

Christianity is essentially anti-family:

Matthew 19:29 New International Version (NIV)

29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[a] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life."

Pagan beliefs were strictly pro-family, focused on fertility and growth of families. The spread of christianity destroyed tribal, clan and big family ties among Europeans.
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Judaism (at least if you follow Orthodox practice i.e. how you're supposed to) is very pro-family. We remember the First Commandment given to Adam and Eve: Be fruitful and multiply!

That's also in the 7 Laws of Noah, so it applies to obedient non-jewish too.

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People CANNOT live with sex in Shame, guilt, secrets, lies and hypocrisy. THAT is what leads to the end of the world. One of the things. Because with those five ways it allows sex to become weaponized to destroy people. There are certain people alive that should not be destroyed. Also when sex is weaponized like that it creates witch hunts and hysteria, gossip, more hatred and lots of violence and death. With no understanding. Lots of fake judging. Lots of weird speculation and other nasties.

But as long as certain people keep pushing shame and guilt things will get worse as this leads to dark actions and the disposability of life. Just to cover things up. It’s a very bad and evil cycle.

Sex needs honesty.
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So that is why American troops were ordered to pass out porn tapes to Iraqi street vendors for them to sell!
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Unwin examines the data from 86 societies and civilizations to see if there is a relationship between sexual freedom and the flourishing of cultures. What makes the book especially interesting is that we in the West underwent a sexual revolution in the late 1960’s, 70’s, and 80’s and are now in a position to test the conclusions he arrived at more than 40 years earlier.

So what did he find?

I have prepared a 26-page collection of quotes from his book that summarize his findings; but even that would leave you with a significant under-appreciation of the rigour and fascinating details revealed in data from 86 cultures. Here are a few of his most significant findings:

Effect of sexual constraints: Increased sexual constraints, either pre or post-nuptial, always led to increased flourishing of a culture. Conversely, increased sexual freedom always led to the collapse of a culture three generations later.

Single most influential factor: Surprisingly, the data revealed that the single most important correlation with the flourishing of a culture was whether pre-nuptial chastity was required or not. It had a very significant effect either way.

Highest flourishing of culture: The most powerful combination was pre-nuptial chastity coupled with “absolute monogamy”. Rationalist cultures that retained this combination for at least three generations exceeded all other cultures in every area, including literature, art, science, furniture, architecture, engineering, and agriculture. Only three out of the eighty-six cultures studied ever attained this level.

Effect of abandoning prenuptial chastity: When strict prenuptial chastity was no longer the norm, absolute monogamy, deism, and rational thinking also disappeared within three generations.

Total sexual freedom: If total sexual freedom was embraced by a culture, that culture collapsed within three generations to the lowest state of flourishing — which Unwin describes as “inert” and at a “dead level of conception” and is characterized by people who have little interest in much else other than their own wants and needs. At this level, the culture is usually conquered or taken over by another culture with greater social energy.

Time lag: If there is a change in sexual constraints, either increased or decreased restraints, the full effect of that change is not realized until the third generation. (Note: I’ve added a clarifying footnote at the end of this article. See footnote #13)

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Just more proof that feminism (and sexual freedom) must be removed and the Patriarchy (restoration of male leadership in all areas of society) must be restored.

It's the only way to save things.
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so Sharia LAW?
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Gender imbalance is about birthing and infant mortality. Women decide sex frequency. Always have, always will.
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So that is why American troops were ordered to pass out porn tapes to Iraqi street vendors for them to sell!
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Sex was weaponized.
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Gender imbalance is about birthing and infant mortality. Women decide sex frequency. Always have, always will.
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They are imposing 5G on all women against consent.
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The Temple of the Holy Spirit

But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with Him in spirit.

Flee from sexual immorality.

Every other sin a man can commit is outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body.

Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;…



That is why they push porn, to keep you on death row...soul death so they take your soul because it has been totally corrupted..
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Led astray from the faith and have stabbed themselves all over with many pains.
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