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I found it. The entry point MS uses to freely spy on you

 
blu
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I found it. The entry point MS uses to freely spy on you
It's in the Windows Theme and from there its hidden behind DLL linked libraries. But that's it folks. That's the initial entry point they mainly use to snoop and spy. Well damn. They start in the Registry through a Windows Update and keep the door opening via Windows Theme in DLLs.

Did a fresh windows 10 install on a dummy machine and watched each sequential update to windows 10 over a week. Then I caught it. :)
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And if you have a NVidia card and use the NVidia Experience software they can tap into a live feed of your graphics card

SOFTWARE\NVIDIA Corporation\NvStreamSrv mirrored to a hidden U:.
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12/08/2019 03:59 AM
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Hidden as in "virtual drive" that's set up in UAC that even you don't have access to.
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12/08/2019 04:01 AM
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And you guys thought I was the bad guy! Lol.
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12/08/2019 04:02 AM
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Eureka!
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Eureka!
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Yep this is the real shit man. I was pausing the operating system documenting everything in VMWare.

Then I found the damn thing. Exploded like a virus connecting to all the things getting all the things onto the internet and phoning home. Windows Theme.
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12/08/2019 04:04 AM
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So, how to block it?
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12/08/2019 04:05 AM
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So, how to block it?
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No idea yet man this was just a discovery post is all lol.
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12/08/2019 04:15 AM
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Shoon my good pinky...shoon.
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12/08/2019 04:19 AM
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You know little on computer tech cammie. Give it up
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12/08/2019 04:27 AM
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And you guys thought I was the bad guy! Lol.
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12/08/2019 04:31 AM
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They literally open the flood gates and phone home your installation.

(Trin/mods pls dont ban me for this lol. If you want it removed just remove it. I have it all backed up to google docs and onedrive...so idc.)

They run about 60mb (of text!) of all your locations and registry keys. He's a tiny excerpt:

[starts with initial calls]
api-ms-win-appmodel-state-l1-1-2
[sees what version you use and literally unlocks the interface]
api-ms-win-appmodel-unlock-l1-1-0
[sets itself up to never be blocked]
api-ms-win-base-bootconfig-l1-1-0
[these are the initial hooks]
a d v a p i 3 2 . d l l
api-ms-win-base-util-l1-1-0
[base utils allows it to be always on]
api-ms-win-composition-redirection-l1-1-0
[any attempts to detect or change their snooping/spying gets sandboxed]
dwmredir.dll
api-ms-win-composition-windowmanager-l1-1-0
[your ctrl-alt-del has been pacified]
udwm.dll
[your display manager too]
api-ms-win-containers-cmclient-l1-1-0
[and any other possible windows component]
[and now the hook to ensure all windows components can never do anything...]
cmclient.dll
api-ms-win-core-apiquery-l1-1-1
[this is the "heartbeat script" for windows 10 and with this next hook its now in all system components. next few hooks/entries solidifies their snooping base]
ntdll.dll
api-ms-win-core-apiquery-l2-1-0
kernelbase.dll
api-ms-win-core-appcompat-l1-1-1
api-ms-win-core-appinit-l1-1-0
kernel32.dll

There's a lot more to it folks but just some proof of entry that I found their stuff. Lol.
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12/08/2019 04:33 AM
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It's no secret the UIs will bootstrap your puppy as heavy gay ass fisting.
Remember to lube up your disc's before getting boarded.
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12/08/2019 04:38 AM
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It's no secret the UIs will bootstrap your puppy as heavy gay ass fisting.
Remember to lube up your disc's before getting boarded.
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No the knowledge of them doing it was leaked in the 90s when those 2 ex cee eye ae agents got on that documentary show to spill the beans.

But we've never had the actual how. I'm just starting to crack that nut.
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12/08/2019 04:39 AM
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what old system is best too use
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12/08/2019 05:32 AM
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[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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It's no secret the UIs will bootstrap your puppy as heavy gay ass fisting.
Remember to lube up your disc's before getting boarded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227394


No the knowledge of them doing it was leaked in the 90s when those 2 ex cee eye ae agents got on that documentary show to spill the beans.

But we've never had the actual how. I'm just starting to crack that nut.
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If I were the agency I'd make sure all the manufacturers of chips made a hidden hardware backdoor, then later act like the US and China were in oposition, when in fact they both cooperate in spying on most computers worldwide.
So in reality the software hacks is just one layer of acces points they have.

For the really tough nuts they have that hardware backdoor, though it's outright spying, in this day and age where nuclear material bio weapons and the like is easy to buy it can be used for good also.

There is even more layers than hardware but that's not to discuss here.
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12/08/2019 05:56 AM
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Why were you discharged?
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12/08/2019 06:00 AM
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bsflag

MS offers the most secure operating system in the world.
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12/08/2019 06:58 AM
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you're an idiot. show us a disassembly and prove yourself, instead tieing stuff you don't understand into a fantasy.
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12/08/2019 07:16 AM
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there is a hidden core on all newer chips...you can see it in the task manager

it does way more than what you are describing.

you cant downgrade the ME firmware either....ever
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Re: I found it. The entry point MS uses to freely spy on you
It's in the Windows Theme and from there its hidden behind DLL linked libraries. But that's it folks. That's the initial entry point they mainly use to snoop and spy. Well damn. They start in the Registry through a Windows Update and keep the door opening via Windows Theme in DLLs.

Did a fresh windows 10 install on a dummy machine and watched each sequential update to windows 10 over a week. Then I caught it. :)
 Quoting: blu 56561591


If you're not concerned about the attention you'll bring, can you please make a video about this and upload to Youtube.
if you're accurate, then this needs to be known by as many people who will listen.
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12/08/2019 07:26 AM
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what old system is best too use
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LINUX is the Only Answer.
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12/08/2019 07:30 AM
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Windows 7 is the last one you can take full control of yourself.

But it's a monumental task to do so and they don't make it easy.


It's far easier to get a hardware firewall setup. And instead of blacklisting stuff you don't want. Blacklist everything. Whitelist only what you specifically allow. Which is a pain in the ass if you do lots of new different things often.

At the very least everyone should get a program like dnsquerysniffer from nirsoft.net take a look at what urls your pc is trying to contact and deal with them accordingly.


So far it's next to impossible to take control of windows 10. I'm working on it. Slowly. But god it's such a complete clusterfuck mess of linked together bullshit. And so much doesn't fail in a usable way when you start breaking pieces of it on purpose.
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Well, I wouldn't over-exaggerate the cause.
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It's no secret the UIs will bootstrap your puppy as heavy gay ass fisting.
Remember to lube up your disc's before getting boarded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227394


No the knowledge of them doing it was leaked in the 90s when those 2 ex cee eye ae agents got on that documentary show to spill the beans.

But we've never had the actual how. I'm just starting to crack that nut.
 Quoting: blu 56561591

If I were the agency I'd make sure all the manufacturers of chips made a hidden hardware backdoor, then later act like the US and China were in oposition, when in fact they both cooperate in spying on most computers worldwide.
So in reality the software hacks is just one layer of acces points they have.

For the really tough nuts they have that hardware backdoor, though it's outright spying, in this day and age where nuclear material bio weapons and the like is easy to buy it can be used for good also.

There is even more layers than hardware but that's not to discuss here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227394


Already been done. The spy code is burnt right into the processors. Always has been. And now with iPhones, Apple moved their corporate HQ to China & gave their backdoor spy functions to Communist China's government. Tim Cook & his executives should all be indicted on treason & espionage, collaborating with a hostile foreign government to subvert US national security. Hang the bug-eyed bastard.
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meds and babysitter stat !!
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bsflag

MS offers the most secure operating system in the world.
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hesright

Windows 10 is a highly functional and extremely secure OS. The cloud protection of Microsoft will keep your data safe from anyone but law enforcement, who as a responsible global citizen Microsoft is obligated to provide legitimate law enforcement with the necessary tools to prosecute criminals. Just like your ISP will hand over all your internet traffic to your local police.

As long as you don't break local laws or laws that your nation is a signatory to, you will never run foul of Microsoft or your nation's law enforcement.
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Windows 10 is a highly functional and extremely secure OS. The cloud protection of Microsoft will keep your data safe from anyone but law enforcement, who as a responsible global citizen Microsoft is obligated to provide legitimate law enforcement with the necessary tools to prosecute criminals. Just like your ISP will hand over all your internet traffic to your local police.

As long as you don't break local laws or laws that your nation is a signatory to, you will never run foul of Microsoft or your nation's law enforcement.
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