If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? | |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70286838 United States 12/11/2019 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70286838 United States 12/11/2019 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. However, Canada is welcome to pay for those European defense bases if you would like to. |
Crypto-Tard User ID: 78144147 United States 12/11/2019 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. They went underground, they infiltrated everything from the inside. They couldn't win the surface battle, so they went inside the victim. China is what's left on the surface. Hopefully, we'll see the end of that soon. When you are afraid of losing your life, you have already lost your life. Don't be afraid. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45777704 United States 12/11/2019 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. They went underground, they infiltrated everything from the inside. They couldn't win the surface battle, so they went inside the victim. China is what's left on the surface. Hopefully, we'll see the end of that soon. :truth compassion: We were already infiltrated. Our military has been infiltrated since before the soviet union even rose to power. We can't fight them with our army because our army is them. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70286838 United States 12/11/2019 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. They went underground, they infiltrated everything from the inside. They couldn't win the surface battle, so they went inside the victim. China is what's left on the surface. Hopefully, we'll see the end of that soon. :truth compassion: And keeping giant US Army bases in Europe forever solves "spies" exactly how? |
Weyoun User ID: 77989510 United States 12/11/2019 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Wrong, we don't need NATO because there is no Europe left to defend. Europe is LOST to the Soviets. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240418 United States 12/11/2019 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? 40% would vote for it. 20% of the old "USA should dominate and occupy the world" Conservatives and 20% of the lunatic Liberals that fall for anything the Democrats tell them. The career politician Democrats need all the foreign aid to collect kickbacks from. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75283842 United States 12/11/2019 03:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? 40% would vote for it. 20% of the old "USA should dominate and occupy the world" Conservatives and 20% of the lunatic Liberals that fall for anything the Democrats tell them. The career politician Democrats need all the foreign aid to collect kickbacks from. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240418 Thats about right but that number is falling. It is getting harder and harder to justify occupying all of these countries for so long. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73598228 United States 12/11/2019 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Wrong, we don't need NATO because there is no Europe left to defend. Europe is LOST to the Soviets. This^^^^,but as long as they rent our military,i say go for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75283842 United States 12/11/2019 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Wrong, we don't need NATO because there is no Europe left to defend. Europe is LOST to the Soviets. This^^^^,but as long as they rent our military,i say go for it. Our military is not rented mercenaries. And anyway, they dont "rent" it because they dont pay for it. Trump can barely get the Europeans to pay for their tiny percent of NATO, let alone for the US bases. |
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RomanianGuy User ID: 78178357 Romania 12/11/2019 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75283842 United States 12/11/2019 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78004686 United States 12/11/2019 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? If Americans voted, they’d vote to keep them and add more! Why? Because voting is an illusion. Your vote is meaningless. The next president is already known, but they’ll put on bread and circuses for the politically obsessed delusional plebs. |
RomanianGuy User ID: 78178357 Romania 12/11/2019 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69750383 United States 12/11/2019 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70286838 The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. and who can Annihilate Russia? I heard Tamerlane did it...anyone else? anyone more contemporary do you know off the top of your head that can annihilate Russia or are the all powerful and immune to destruction? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69750383 United States 12/11/2019 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? its clear there are nations that talk shit based on the principle that no one wants to completely start over...if that principle is discarded and everone has to start over, which nation do you think would be least likely to reemerge to where it is today? Which do you think is most likely to not only be where it is today but get to that point the fastest? Take your time when answer because I know it will take some time for you to formulate a delusion. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240418 United States 12/11/2019 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70286838 The Soviet Union collapsed after they pulled out of Eastern Europe. They went bankrupt and are no longer a threat to Europe so the entire reason for NATO is long over. Spending trillions of US tax dollars to defend Europe forever is not something that most taxpayers would vote for if they were given the choice to decide. Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. The ONLY way Russia or China can "annihilate" the US is with ICBMs so forward bases are pointless against that. The US would retaliate with ICBMs, not ground forces. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69750383 United States 12/11/2019 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: RomanianGuy Why do you think the US would leave Europe if NATO was gone? Having a forward presence in Europe is one of the US empire's core tenets and will be discarded only if the US empire collapses financially like the USSR. A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. The ONLY way Russia or China can "annihilate" the US is with ICBMs so forward bases are pointless against that. The US would retaliate with ICBMs, not ground forces. and our would reach them before they reach us, even if they fire first. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78224572 United States 12/11/2019 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75283842 A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. The ONLY way Russia or China can "annihilate" the US is with ICBMs so forward bases are pointless against that. The US would retaliate with ICBMs, not ground forces. and our would reach them before they reach us, even if they fire first. Hell even if they did get a first strike in and somehow wiped out all our hand based nukes there are always multiple subs out their armed with a dozen+ nuclear weapons meaning even a single sub could destroy Russia or China. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77754350 Slovenia 12/11/2019 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75283842 A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. The ONLY way Russia or China can "annihilate" the US is with ICBMs so forward bases are pointless against that. The US would retaliate with ICBMs, not ground forces. and our would reach them before they reach us, even if they fire first. Not with S-500. Once S-500 is implemented it will be game over for the west, in theory. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78240418 United States 12/11/2019 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If they took a real vote, how many US taxpayers would vote to maintain Army bases in Europe 75 years after WWII? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75283842 A "forward presence" is an occupation and military term describing a war with the long gone Soviet Union. Most US citizens are not interested in warring with ANYONE, let alone with long ago defeated enemies. It is the ego manic politicians and generals that are interested in such nonsense. Even though the USSR is gone, Russia is the only country that can annihilate the US. So a forward presence in Europe close to Russia will still be something the US will be interested in. The ONLY way Russia or China can "annihilate" the US is with ICBMs so forward bases are pointless against that. The US would retaliate with ICBMs, not ground forces. and our would reach them before they reach us, even if they fire first. So what. So we blow them up 20 minutes before their own missiles hit and blow us up. Big "win." LOL. |
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