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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77343238 United States 12/12/2019 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol Quoting: Bodiless This is the same one that sank at dock—yes, sank at dock, and had a crane fall through its flight deck Lol Russian aircraft carrier duty is lethal! IT did NOT sink at Dock. The drydock the ship was in did suffer damage and got big problems. But the carrier did not sink. The drydock did. Drydocks are supposed to sink. They don't understand cutting and welding...it doesn't take deep thought to realize you have to cut a piece out to weld a patch in... Thinking even deeper would bring you to the conclusion that you wouldn't need a patch if you dont cut out a piece. |
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Kagnimir User ID: 78244925 Poland 12/12/2019 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol Quoting: Bodiless This is the same one that sank at dock—yes, sank at dock, and had a crane fall through its flight deck Lol Russian aircraft carrier duty is lethal! West is not afraid of Russias guns, you're afraid of Russias ideology, ideas. Those are the real danger for continuation of western decadence. Keep hating, you're spitting in your own bowl with this attitude not Russias. Russias future is bright, they will be alright.. Umm I like Russia's ideas. They're not commies anymore. They refuse to take in refugees like Western Europe. They don't take any shit. Trump and Putin are both against globalism and want to take down the pedo rings. Seems fine with me. There are so many myths surrounding Russia. In reality Russia has the biggest muslim minority out of all European countries. At the same time indigenous population is dying out. It's not some kind of white conservative paradise that some portray it to be. Russia's economy is comparable in size to a single American State, or corporation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76725304 Slovenia 12/12/2019 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only reason i admire Russia is they believe in white power and refuse to be islamized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 They don't believe in no fucking white power. You guys have no clue and its amazing how on average you suck at evaluating of foreign cultures. This shouldn't be a surprise to me or anyone else, since how bad you handled Iraq or Afghanistan. You couldn't understand what those cultures are about or what needs to be done for a successful mission. You simply don't want to learn about others. To full of yourself to understand the importance of communication between different worlds, in short. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76725304 Slovenia 12/12/2019 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol Quoting: Bodiless This is the same one that sank at dock—yes, sank at dock, and had a crane fall through its flight deck Lol Russian aircraft carrier duty is lethal! West is not afraid of Russias guns, you're afraid of Russias ideology, ideas. Those are the real danger for continuation of western decadence. Keep hating, you're spitting in your own bowl with this attitude not Russias. Russias future is bright, they will be alright.. Umm I like Russia's ideas. They're not commies anymore. They refuse to take in refugees like Western Europe. They don't take any shit. Trump and Putin are both against globalism and want to take down the pedo rings. Seems fine with me. There are so many myths surrounding Russia. In reality Russia has the biggest muslim minority out of all European countries. At the same time indigenous population is dying out. It's not some kind of white conservative paradise that some portray it to be. Russia's economy is comparable in size to a single American State, or corporation. You say indigenous population is dying out, that's one of the myths surrounding Russia you talk about. Do you have any official statistic? In 2016 it was 1.75 births per woman, one of highest in Europe. In 2019 fertility rate in Russia is 1.82 per woman. In Poland it was 1.32 in 2016 and falling. Like I said their future is bright and yours? You thump on your chest cause of big economies. What good is your economy if you don't produce kids? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73430294 Australia 12/12/2019 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Matjaz West is not afraid of Russias guns, you're afraid of Russias ideology, ideas. Those are the real danger for continuation of western decadence. Keep hating, you're spitting in your own bowl with this attitude not Russias. Russias future is bright, they will be alright.. Umm I like Russia's ideas. They're not commies anymore. They refuse to take in refugees like Western Europe. They don't take any shit. Trump and Putin are both against globalism and want to take down the pedo rings. Seems fine with me. There are so many myths surrounding Russia. In reality Russia has the biggest muslim minority out of all European countries. At the same time indigenous population is dying out. It's not some kind of white conservative paradise that some portray it to be. Russia's economy is comparable in size to a single American State, or corporation. You say indigenous population is dying out, that's one of the myths surrounding Russia you talk about. Do you have any official statistic? In 2016 it was 1.75 births per woman, one of highest in Europe. In 2019 fertility rate in Russia is 1.82 per woman. In Poland it was 1.32 in 2016 and falling. Like I said their future is bright and yours? You thump on your chest cause of big economies. What good is your economy if you don't produce kids? The high birthrate in russia is mostly muslim. The white birthrate is much lower than western Europe. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76015988 Slovakia 12/12/2019 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Number of people injured in fire on board Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier grows to 12, three others missing - source [link to www.interfax.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77999704 Canada 12/12/2019 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China now has a more powerful Navy than Russia... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 Russia is now out of the elite aircraft carrier wielding club. Until they build powerful new ones which is a given... Or maybe not since they spent all their money on doomsday weapons and upgraded ICBM and other nuclear platforms... What role did aircraft carriers play in your conquest of Afghanistan and Libya? Has Turkey asked to borrow an aircraft carrier from you, since they are threatening to stop Saif Qaddafi from becoming President of Libya. Russia doesn't spend a tiny fraction of the money you spend on defense. You guys can't even afford health care. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78227660 United States 12/12/2019 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol Quoting: Bodiless This is the same one that sank at dock—yes, sank at dock, and had a crane fall through its flight deck Lol Russian aircraft carrier duty is lethal! West is not afraid of Russias guns, you're afraid of Russias ideology, ideas. Those are the real danger for continuation of western decadence. Keep hating, you're spitting in your own bowl with this attitude not Russias. Russias future is bright, they will be alright.. If they are undermining someone's future that wanted peace with them, then they are undermining themselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77556714 United States 12/12/2019 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The country with the second largest number of aircraft carriers after the US is China, with more on the ways being built. China should be up to 5 or 6 aircraft carriers by the end of 2025. Aircraft carriers are now OLD technology and would NOT last long in an all out war anymore though for smaller regional conflicts they provide a quick mobile air platform for projecting power far away from their home country. Russia's sea power is mostly about submarines. China is copying the US and building up a diversified surface fleet as well as expanding it's undersea capabilities, China is definitely the country to watch, starting in the next decade, as moving to rival the US's naval reach and power. China has a civilian seagoing presence that makes the US look like a midget fighting a heavyweight, and has the shipyard capacity to out build the US at least 10/1 in that realm, and probably about 5/1 in the naval seapower realm (if it chooses to do so). Once China's NAVY surpasses the US's in the Western Pacific region (about 2023-2024) things will start to get VERY interesting for the US with it's attempt to keep the South China Sea under it's (US's) control. |
Dame User ID: 77881046 United States 12/12/2019 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lol Quoting: Bodiless This is the same one that sank at dock—yes, sank at dock, and had a crane fall through its flight deck Lol Russian aircraft carrier duty is lethal! West is not afraid of Russias guns, you're afraid of Russias ideology, ideas. Those are the real danger for continuation of western decadence. Keep hating, you're spitting in your own bowl with this attitude not Russias. Russias future is bright, they will be alright.. Chill man. Most Americans like Russia. It's the Swamp infesting our government that don't to to personal financial and political interests. Sure, sure I see it every day here the amount of respect you show for Russia. You ridicule them non stop, strange display of affection I'd say if nothing else. Its at your own expense though, I guarantee you they dont give a fuck...they plan their future and it is a bright one, its all that matters. I don’t know one person who dislikes Russians. Democrats started the Russian hoax to coverup their own crimes. It’s dirty Democrat politics and liberal news stations, that’s it. The American people do not dislike Russians. It’s common to hear jokes about Russians and their love of Vodka, but that’s about it. What you are saying is simply not true. |
Concorde Warrior F-BVFA User ID: 78156606 France 12/12/2019 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Number of people injured in fire on board Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier grows to 12, three others missing - source Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76015988 [link to www.interfax.com] Can you imagine if it happened at sea in the middle of nowhere? That it happened while in port is a lesser damage me thinks. Living in Murmansk is really for the brave. I came. I saw. I Concorde. For once you have tasted Concorde you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been and there you will long to return. "I would say today we can integrate all religions and races EXCEPT ISLAM." Singapore's founding father Lee Kuan Y ew |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76725304 Slovenia 12/12/2019 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The high birthrate in russia is mostly muslim. The white birthrate is much lower than western Europe. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73430294 Can you provide some official statistics or its just talking myths again. Much lower then western Europe?! C'mon go check numbers, it can't get lower then that. And even if so, to me religion doesn't play a role as long as you practice behind your closed doors. And Russia's Muslims aren't aggressive. I understand that this place is full of cleric and religious people but this shit simply doesn't matter. Russia's muslims are white people, white genes. Another thing, Russia recognizes its problem and is actively engaging it with reforms. Europe isn't, EU is fuckin around with topics like, "do we need a unified army" , instead of addressing birth crisis. Nobody talks about it and they are solving it nonchalantly with importing third worlders. That is their answer to the crisis. And if you think Poland or Hungary are any better they aren't. Both nations will fall against EU globalism due to sheer vicinity to it. Once younger generations grow up, go work in the west and learn western ways then they will change their nations, it comes with it. In long term all eastern Europe is lost simply because they chose West. They're not to blame though, they want euros like their German neighbor who's driving BMW...so somewhere in the future a Pole gonna have money but his daughter might come home with an African or Arab saying she wants to get married and a Pole will be stuck with brown grand kids but hey as long as he has euros and driving BMW, that's what's really important, right. To have big economies that's the goal lmao.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78230302 United States 12/12/2019 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China now has a more powerful Navy than Russia... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 Russia is now out of the elite aircraft carrier wielding club. Until they build powerful new ones which is a given... Or maybe not since they spent all their money on doomsday weapons and upgraded ICBM and other nuclear platforms... So yes, the Admiral Kuznetsov is a piece of shit. However, Russia is not that far behind being able to deploy new carriers if it really wanted to. These days, just take large cruisers, frigates, destroyers, add flat tops to them, and voila, you have mini carriers that can deploy with vertical take off jets, drones, and more. This is what Japan has done as part of its effort to counter China. I would not be surprised if Russia decided to go that route. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76155831 United States 12/12/2019 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The country with the second largest number of aircraft carriers after the US is China, with more on the ways being built. China should be up to 5 or 6 aircraft carriers by the end of 2025. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77556714 Aircraft carriers are now OLD technology and would NOT last long in an all out war anymore though for smaller regional conflicts they provide a quick mobile air platform for projecting power far away from their home country. Russia's sea power is mostly about submarines. China is copying the US and building up a diversified surface fleet as well as expanding it's undersea capabilities, China is definitely the country to watch, starting in the next decade, as moving to rival the US's naval reach and power. China has a civilian seagoing presence that makes the US look like a midget fighting a heavyweight, and has the shipyard capacity to out build the US at least 10/1 in that realm, and probably about 5/1 in the naval seapower realm (if it chooses to do so). Once China's NAVY surpasses the US's in the Western Pacific region (about 2023-2024) things will start to get VERY interesting for the US with it's attempt to keep the South China Sea under it's (US's) control. “a civilian seagoing presence “. What a joke. It doesn’t exist. Chicoms are too afraid their civilians will escape. |
Theuse User ID: 78149885 Russia 12/12/2019 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not English speaking |
Fingulas User ID: 74451172 United States 12/12/2019 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China now has a more powerful Navy than Russia... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 Russia is now out of the elite aircraft carrier wielding club. Until they build powerful new ones which is a given... Or maybe not since they spent all their money on doomsday weapons and upgraded ICBM and other nuclear platforms... So yes, the Admiral Kuznetsov is a piece of shit. However, Russia is not that far behind being able to deploy new carriers if it really wanted to. These days, just take large cruisers, frigates, destroyers, add flat tops to them, and voila, you have mini carriers that can deploy with vertical take off jets, drones, and more. This is what Japan has done as part of its effort to counter China. I would not be surprised if Russia decided to go that route. The only hitch is you need a 5th gen vertical take-off fighter-bomber in mass production and the logistics chain to support such a craft. I guess they could, if pressed, buy our f-35 :-). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78245276 United States 12/12/2019 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only reason i admire Russia is they believe in white power and refuse to be islamized. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 Hahaha. There are 10 to 20 times more Muslims per capita in Russia than in the USA. Besides the point.. The point is Russians wont let themselves be islamized... Nor do China. |
Theuse User ID: 78149885 Russia 12/12/2019 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | China now has a more powerful Navy than Russia... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78245276 Russia is now out of the elite aircraft carrier wielding club. Until they build powerful new ones which is a given... Or maybe not since they spent all their money on doomsday weapons and upgraded ICBM and other nuclear platforms... So yes, the Admiral Kuznetsov is a piece of shit. However, Russia is not that far behind being able to deploy new carriers if it really wanted to. These days, just take large cruisers, frigates, destroyers, add flat tops to them, and voila, you have mini carriers that can deploy with vertical take off jets, drones, and more. This is what Japan has done as part of its effort to counter China. I would not be surprised if Russia decided to go that route. The only hitch is you need a 5th gen vertical take-off fighter-bomber in mass production and the logistics chain to support such a craft. I guess they could, if pressed, buy our f-35 :-). No frigates are needed, container ships laden with S-500 are needed, or something like that. I am not English speaking |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73888120 United States 12/12/2019 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is on fire. Lokking bad for the ship. Fire NOT under control. This could be vert serious. Old ship but vital for the russian navy. Quoting: Storyteller 78123507 [link to thebarentsobserver.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 12/12/2019 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The country with the second largest number of aircraft carriers after the US is China, with more on the ways being built. China should be up to 5 or 6 aircraft carriers by the end of 2025. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77556714 Aircraft carriers are now OLD technology and would NOT last long in an all out war anymore though for smaller regional conflicts they provide a quick mobile air platform for projecting power far away from their home country. Russia's sea power is mostly about submarines. China is copying the US and building up a diversified surface fleet as well as expanding it's undersea capabilities, China is definitely the country to watch, starting in the next decade, as moving to rival the US's naval reach and power. China has a civilian seagoing presence that makes the US look like a midget fighting a heavyweight, and has the shipyard capacity to out build the US at least 10/1 in that realm, and probably about 5/1 in the naval seapower realm (if it chooses to do so). Once China's NAVY surpasses the US's in the Western Pacific region (about 2023-2024) things will start to get VERY interesting for the US with it's attempt to keep the South China Sea under it's (US's) control. China's aircraft carriers are shit. They cut corners in the worst possible ways to build them fast. Every fire hazard built-in Russian carriers were only worsened in the design of China's carriers. Their aircraft don't have the power to launch with full battle loads and their carriers don't even have catapults to launch more than one aircraft at a time. The only way China could build a decent carrier is to seize the Sungdong shipyards in South Korea, where giant ships are built. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77998499 United States 12/12/2019 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is on fire. Lokking bad for the ship. Fire NOT under control. This could be vert serious. Old ship but vital for the russian navy. Quoting: Storyteller 78123507 [link to thebarentsobserver.com (secure)] they are using beam weapons to start fires missile plant in russia boat fires california fires |
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Theuse User ID: 78149885 Russia 12/12/2019 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In any case, Russia has gained valuable experience in owning an aircraft carrier. I have no doubt that the corresponding conclusions will be drawn.And is it generally reasonable to have such an expensive maintenance equipment in the current modern conditions of warfare? Probably for the robbery of some backward country it is worth having such a technique. My private opinion, I am not a military expert. I am not English speaking |
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