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Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

 
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The Glory of God in Exodus 16:7 is even treated as a distinct person from God, as you can see.
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"Person"????

My God you are STUPID.

verysad
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Sorry, "entity"
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The Glory of God in Exodus 16:7 is even treated as a distinct person from God, as you can see.
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"Person"????

My God you are STUPID.

verysad
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Sorry, "entity"
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A distinct "He" from God.
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Calling all Eholim...can we gat an "ENTITY "HE" CHECJ AISLE 4? STAT scream
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Calling all Eholim...can we gat an "ENTITY "HE" CHECJ AISLE 4? STAT scream
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The verse is Exodus 16:7.

The Glory of God is treated like a distinct witness. Go see..
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blink
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Beefree asked you to clarify your beliefs last night.
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i saw it..

Seems your on baited breath for a reply..

When i feel i simply explained where i stood..

What more do i need to say?..

As i sit here drooling in the sandbox..
 Quoting: mouse..


My interest wasn’t meant to initiate debate between us. I genuinely want to understand where you’re coming from. Hearing out different views helps me better grasp my own thoughts and guides me into what I should be reading and writing about.

If you do ever decide to share (no pressure), I promise I’ll be charitable. Meaning, I will try to see it from your perspective rather than just oppose and challenge you. I’ll only debate if you want to.

My impression of you involves no drool or sandboxes, by the way. Just so you know.

And I hope you’re having a lovely day!

hf
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blink
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Beefree asked you to clarify your beliefs last night.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


i saw it..

Seems your on baited breath for a reply..

When i feel i simply explained where i stood..

What more do i need to say?..

As i sit here drooling in the sandbox..
 Quoting: mouse..


My interest wasn’t meant to initiate debate between us. I genuinely want to understand where you’re coming from. Hearing out different views helps me better grasp my own thoughts and guides me into what I should be reading and writing about.

If you do ever decide to share (no pressure), I promise I’ll be charitable. Meaning, I will try to see it from your perspective rather than just oppose and challenge you. I’ll only debate if you want to.

My impression of you involves no drool or sandboxes, by the way. Just so you know.

And I hope you’re having a lovely day!

hf
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If he after following many threads on this still doesn't get it, or doesn't believe, is living in drool central. Too far gone outside of a miracle.
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Col 1 15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.…


1 Corinthians 8:6
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we exist. And there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we exist.


Photine I see how the flame and the sword are symbols of Christ but they are things created
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Photine I see how the flame and the sword are symbols of Christ but they are things created
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Heb 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 33:14
The sinners in Zion are afraid; trembling seizes the ungodly: "Who among us can dwell with a consuming fire? Who among us can dwell with ever-burning flames?"

2 Thess 1:7-12
7And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; 10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day. 11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: 12That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

drevil
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Beefree asked you to clarify your beliefs last night.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


i saw it..

Seems your on baited breath for a reply..

When i feel i simply explained where i stood..

What more do i need to say?..

As i sit here drooling in the sandbox..
 Quoting: mouse..


My interest wasn’t meant to initiate debate between us. I genuinely want to understand where you’re coming from. Hearing out different views helps me better grasp my own thoughts and guides me into what I should be reading and writing about.

If you do ever decide to share (no pressure), I promise I’ll be charitable. Meaning, I will try to see it from your perspective rather than just oppose and challenge you. I’ll only debate if you want to.

My impression of you involves no drool or sandboxes, by the way. Just so you know.

And I hope you’re having a lovely day!

hf
 Quoting: Bee Free


If he after following many threads on this still doesn't get it, or doesn't believe, is living in drool central. Too far gone outside of a miracle.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Using numerous labels to describe the unique experiences in and of the Spirit isn't the same thing as conjuring up a fictional entity to idolize outside the presence of the Spirit. I see the dangers and consequences of false doctrine. But I also see many people intuitively connecting with the Spirit in spite of the language imposed by false doctrine.

Disagreeing about the way someone is describing is significantly different than disagreeing about the way someone is living.
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i saw it..

Seems your on baited breath for a reply..

When i feel i simply explained where i stood..

What more do i need to say?..

As i sit here drooling in the sandbox..
 Quoting: mouse..


My interest wasn’t meant to initiate debate between us. I genuinely want to understand where you’re coming from. Hearing out different views helps me better grasp my own thoughts and guides me into what I should be reading and writing about.

If you do ever decide to share (no pressure), I promise I’ll be charitable. Meaning, I will try to see it from your perspective rather than just oppose and challenge you. I’ll only debate if you want to.

My impression of you involves no drool or sandboxes, by the way. Just so you know.

And I hope you’re having a lovely day!

hf
 Quoting: Bee Free


If he after following many threads on this still doesn't get it, or doesn't believe, is living in drool central. Too far gone outside of a miracle.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Using numerous labels to describe the unique experiences in and of the Spirit isn't the same thing as conjuring up a fictional entity to idolize outside the presence of the Spirit. I see the dangers and consequences of false doctrine. But I also see many people intuitively connecting with the Spirit in spite of the language imposed by false doctrine.

Disagreeing about the way someone is describing is significantly different than disagreeing about the way someone is living.
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(LAUGHS)
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Mmhmm..I’m amused by you as well.
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2 Cor 4:3-4
If our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
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Mouse is literally blind, and perishing; you're acting like nothing is wrong. He's been staring at an idol too long, does not even recognize or know Christ, which is essential in being saved.

That's the fact.
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Satan has blinded mouse (his idol), you act like he's just fine.
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Exodus 24:17
And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like a consuming fire on the mountaintop in the eyes of the Israelites.

Deuteronomy 9:3
But understand that today the LORD your God goes across ahead of you as a consuming fire; He will destroy them and subdue them before you. And you will drive them out and annihilate them swiftly, as the LORD has promised you.

Isaiah 30:27
Behold, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense smoke. His lips are full of fury, and His tongue is like a consuming fire.

Amos 5:6
Seek the LORD and live, or He will spread like fire through the house of Joseph; it will devour everything, with no one at Bethel to extinguish it

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Exodus 24:17
And the sight of the glory of the LORD was like a consuming fire on the mountaintop in the eyes of the Israelites.

Deuteronomy 9:3
But understand that today the LORD your God goes across ahead of you as a consuming fire; He will destroy them and subdue them before you. And you will drive them out and annihilate them swiftly, as the LORD has promised you.

Isaiah 30:27
Behold, the Name of the LORD comes from afar, with burning anger and dense smoke. His lips are full of fury, and His tongue is like a consuming fire.

Amos 5:6
Seek the LORD and live, or He will spread like fire through the house of Joseph; it will devour everything, with no one at Bethel to extinguish it

like
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PREPOSITION
having the same characteristics or qualities as; similar to.
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synonyms:
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"I apologize for coming over unannounced like this" · [more]
such as; for example.
"the cautionary vision of works like Animal Farm and 1984"
synonyms:
such as · for example · for instance · in particular · as · namely · viz.
CONJUNCTION
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"people who change countries like they change clothes"
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"I felt like I'd been kicked by a camel"
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informal
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"so she comes into the room and she's like “Where is everybody?”"
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(like as/to)
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77719831


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who is the image of God
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who is the image of God
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Not sure what point you're trying to make.
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I am usually here Thanks Pho

TLS straightforward is how I am reading it
the verse does not read the Holy Ghost led Jesus! some scriptures about mans spirit

Job 32:8 - But [there is] a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

Proverbs 20:27 - The spirit of man [is] the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 - Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Romans 8:16 - The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

1 Corinthians 6:17 - But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

Zechariah 12:1 - The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

Genesis 2:7 - And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

1 Thessalonians 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and [I pray God] your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

John 4:24 - God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:10 - And if Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness.

Luke 24:39 - Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

John 14:1-3 - Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. (Read More...)

Job 27:3 - All the while my breath [is] in me, and the spirit of God [is] in my nostrils;

1 Corinthians 6:19 - What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Luke 16:19-31 - There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: (Read More...)
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UTTER NONSENSE.

"Spirit" is capitalized. That's the Holy Spirit.

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy

Ghost
returned from Jordan, and was led

by
the Spirit into the wilderness,

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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by the Spirit into the wilderness,
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2 Corinthians 3:17
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Whoa YOUR Lord, TLS???

A "third person"????

What a load of garbage.
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The Glory of God in Exodus 16:7 is even treated as a distinct person from God, as you can see.
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"Person"????

My God you are STUPID.

verysad
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Sorry, "entity"
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A distinct "He" from God.
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NOPE. ONLY your meager interpretation.
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by the Spirit into the wilderness,
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2 Corinthians 3:17
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Whoa YOUR Lord, TLS???

A "third person"????

What a load of garbage.
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Luke 4:1 puts your ASSumption to SHAME.

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy

Ghost
returned from Jordan, and was led

by
the Spirit into the wilderness,

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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"Person"????

My God you are STUPID.

verysad
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Sorry, "entity"
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


A distinct "He" from God.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


NOPE. ONLY your meager interpretation.
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


False. Stay willingly blind.
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by the Spirit into the wilderness,
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


2 Corinthians 3:17
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Who's YOUR Lord, TLS???

A "third person"????

What a load of garbage.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Luke 4:1 puts your ASSumption to SHAME.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Is that your answer?
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by the Spirit into the wilderness,
 Quoting: TheLordsServant


2 Corinthians 3:17
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Who's YOUR Lord, TLS???

A "third person"????

What a load of garbage.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Luke 4:1 puts your ASSumption to SHAME.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Is that your answer?
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


It doesn't get any clearer than this sonny.

Jesus wasn't "full of Himself"
Jesus wasn't "led by Himself"

BOOM

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Who's YOUR Lord, TLS???

Is that your answer?
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Father God is MY God.

Jesus was SENT BY the Father.

His Father OUR Father.

Where does Jesus say that we have to accept Him as "Lord".

He doesn't.

He IS a "Lord" over us for the simple FACT that He IS...

...the SON OF God.

And I WILL bow my knee to Him!

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2 Corinthians 3:17
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

Who's YOUR Lord, TLS???

A "third person"????

What a load of garbage.
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Luke 4:1 puts your ASSumption to SHAME.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Is that your answer?
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


It doesn't get any clearer than this sonny.

Jesus wasn't "full of Himself"
Jesus wasn't "led by Himself"

BOOM

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


2 Corinthians 3:17
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

So you preach a "third entity" as Lord?
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Mouse is literally blind, and perishing; you're acting like nothing is wrong. He's been staring at an idol too long, does not even recognize or know Christ, which is essential in being saved.

That's the fact.
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We can’t possibly know if he’s been staring at an idol or not. Only he and God know that. Yes, he describes some of his experiences with the spirit as being given of the Holy Spirit, and other experiences he describes as being given of Christ. It doesn’t necessarily follow that his use of these two different labels means he’s having two different relationships with two different spirits, one of which being a demonic thought form.

I’ve seen what it looks like when people idolize one of the entities of the Trinitarian doctrine. This is not what I’m seeing here.
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Who's YOUR Lord, TLS???

Is that your answer?
 Quoting: Photine 75425980


Father God is MY God.

Jesus was SENT BY the Father.

His Father OUR Father.

Where does Jesus say that we have to accept Him as "Lord".

He doesn't.

 Quoting: TheLordsServant


Jn 13:13
"You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am





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