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Christ is the flaming sword that guards tree of life in the Garden of Eden.

 
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What does this mean with regard to Jesus showing up on Pentecost and breathing out the Spirit? That we can say it was really God who breathed out the spirit? I’m confused. Please be patient with me.

hf
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It was indeed!
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I see it now :)
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Luke 19:44
They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you."
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Rev 1:16
In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
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Rev 20:11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
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What does this mean with regard to Jesus showing up on Pentecost and breathing out the Spirit? That we can say it was really God who breathed out the spirit? I’m confused. Please be patient with me.

hf
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It was indeed!
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I see it now :)
 Quoting: Bee Free


Luke 19:44
They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you."
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Jesus is both the image and spirit of God. When we see Him, we see God. But He’s really the spirit. I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Sort of reminds me of a hologram. Multidimensional image made up of coherent light waves. We see the image. But it’s really light.

So if the Word who is the Spirit is also Eve, who is Adam?
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It was indeed!
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I see it now :)
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Luke 19:44
They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you."
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Jesus is both the image and spirit of God. When we see Him, we see God. But He’s really the spirit. I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Sort of reminds me of a hologram. Multidimensional image made up of coherent light waves. We see the image. But it’s really light.

So if the Word who is the Spirit is also Eve, who is Adam?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Who do you think????
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I see it now :)
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Luke 19:44
They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you."
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Jesus is both the image and spirit of God. When we see Him, we see God. But He’s really the spirit. I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Sort of reminds me of a hologram. Multidimensional image made up of coherent light waves. We see the image. But it’s really light.

So if the Word who is the Spirit is also Eve, who is Adam?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Who do you think????
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Yeah, but I could have sworn I saw you say something other than what I think at some point. I don’t even want to assume I know anything about what’s going on here. I require detailed lessons.
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Luke 19:44
They will dash you to the ground, you and the children within your walls. They will not leave one stone on another, because you did not recognize the time of God's coming to you."
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Jesus is both the image and spirit of God. When we see Him, we see God. But He’s really the spirit. I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Sort of reminds me of a hologram. Multidimensional image made up of coherent light waves. We see the image. But it’s really light.

So if the Word who is the Spirit is also Eve, who is Adam?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Who do you think????
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Yeah, but I could have sworn I saw you say something other than what I think at some point. I don’t even want to assume I know anything about what’s going on here. I require detailed lessons.
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Adam would be a type of the Father. ...
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It was not good for Adam to be alone, so he made him a helper [ADVOCATE] suitable for him.
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Jesus is both the image and spirit of God. When we see Him, we see God. But He’s really the spirit. I’m trying to wrap my head around this.

Sort of reminds me of a hologram. Multidimensional image made up of coherent light waves. We see the image. But it’s really light.

So if the Word who is the Spirit is also Eve, who is Adam?
 Quoting: Bee Free


Who do you think????
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Yeah, but I could have sworn I saw you say something other than what I think at some point. I don’t even want to assume I know anything about what’s going on here. I require detailed lessons.
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Adam would be a type of the Father. ...
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Okay, yes. That’s what I would think.

I thought I read you say he was the devil in some other thread. Must’ve been someone else.
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Tobit 8
6 You made Adam, and you made his wife Eve
to be his helper and support;
and from these two the human race has come.
You said, ‘It is not good for the man to be alone;
let us make him a helper like himself.’
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It was not good for Adam to be alone, so he made him a helper [ADVOCATE] suitable for him.
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Their union first required separation and distance. No I without You.
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It was not good for Adam to be alone, so he made him a helper [ADVOCATE] suitable for him.
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Their union first required separation and distance. No I without You.
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And yet, she came from Adams own rib
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It was not good for Adam to be alone, so he made him a helper [ADVOCATE] suitable for him.
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Their union first required separation and distance. No I without You.
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Makes sense that the spirit is the image or reflection. It is only through You that I know myself.
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It was not good for Adam to be alone, so he made him a helper [ADVOCATE] suitable for him.
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Their union first required separation and distance. No I without You.
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Makes sense that the spirit is the image or reflection. It is only through You that I know myself.
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1 Cor 11:7
A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.
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Rev 1:16
In his right hand he held seven stars, and coming out of his mouth was a sharp, double-edged sword. His face was like the sun shining in all its brilliance.
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Rev 20:11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
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Dan 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
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Dan 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
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Isaiah 16:12
And it shall come to pass, when it is seen that Moab is weary on the high place, that he shall come to his sanctuary to pray; but he shall not prevail.
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Dan 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Isaiah 16:12
And it shall come to pass, when it is seen that Moab is weary on the high place, that he shall come to his sanctuary to pray; but he shall not prevail.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


2 Kings 14:19 (NLT)
There was a conspiracy against Amaziah’s life in Jerusalem, and he fled to Lachish. But his enemies sent assassins after him, and they killed him there.
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Dan 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
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Isaiah 16:12
And it shall come to pass, when it is seen that Moab is weary on the high place, that he shall come to his sanctuary to pray; but he shall not prevail.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


2 Kings 14:19 (NLT)
There was a conspiracy against Amaziah’s life in Jerusalem, and he fled to Lachish. But his enemies sent assassins after him, and they killed him there.
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Jeremiah 39:1-7
1 In the ninth year of Zedekiah king of Judah, in the tenth month, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon marched against Jerusalem with his whole army and laid siege to it. 2 And on the ninth day of the fourth month of Zedekiah’s eleventh year, the city wall was broken through. 3 Then all the officials of the king of Babylon came and took seats in the Middle Gate: Nergal-Sharezer of Samgar, Nebo-Sarsekim a chief officer, Nergal-Sharezer a high official and all the other officials of the king of Babylon.

4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king’s garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah. 5 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him. 6 There at Riblah the king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes and also killed all the nobles of Judah. 7 Then he put out Zedekiah’s eyes and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon.
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Cherry picking? At least the verses I POST DIRECTLY address how Jesus - and Father God & Apostles - describe the Holy Spirit. YOU have to look for verses to "weave together" for false doctrine, which can't even answer specific questions that I've posed time and time AGAIN.

1. Notice God ANOINTED Jesus WITH the Holy Spirit.

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

2. Jesus was FILLED with AND LED by the Holy Spirit.

Luke 4:1 And Jesus being

full
of the Holy Ghost

returned from Jordan,

and was led by the Spirit

into the wilderness,


3. The Holy Spirit LANDS on Jesus.

John 1

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.


4. Blaspheming Jesus is forgivable - but NOT the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.


Mark 3

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:


5. The Holy Spirit was SENT on Pentecost. It wasn't Jesus.

Acts 2

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

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Dan 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Isaiah 16:12
And it shall come to pass, when it is seen that Moab is weary on the high place, that he shall come to his sanctuary to pray; but he shall not prevail.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


2 Kings 14:19 (NLT)
There was a conspiracy against Amaziah’s life in Jerusalem, and he fled to Lachish. But his enemies sent assassins after him, and they killed him there.
 Quoting: Photine 75873658


Jeremiah 39:1-7
1 In the ninth year of Zedekiah king of Judah, in the tenth month, Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon marched against Jerusalem with his whole army and laid siege to it. 2 And on the ninth day of the fourth month of Zedekiah’s eleventh year, the city wall was broken through. 3 Then all the officials of the king of Babylon came and took seats in the Middle Gate: Nergal-Sharezer of Samgar, Nebo-Sarsekim a chief officer, Nergal-Sharezer a high official and all the other officials of the king of Babylon.

4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king’s garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah. 5 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him. 6 There at Riblah the king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes and also killed all the nobles of Judah. 7 Then he put out Zedekiah’s eyes and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon.
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Ezekiel 23-26
23 For the Babylonians will come with all the Chaldeans from Pekod and Shoa and Koa. And all the Assyrians will come with them—handsome young captains, commanders, chariot officers, and other high-ranking officers, all riding their horses. 24 They will all come against you from the north with chariots, wagons, and a great army prepared for attack. They will take up positions on every side, surrounding you with men armed with shields and helmets. And I will hand you over to them for punishment so they can do with you as they please. 25 I will turn my jealous anger against you, and they will deal harshly with you. They will cut off your nose and ears, and any survivors will then be slaughtered by the sword. Your children will be taken away as captives, and everything that is left will be burned. 26 They will strip you of your beautiful clothes and jewels.

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4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king’s garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah. 5 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him. 6 There at Riblah the king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes and also killed all the nobles of Judah. 7 Then he put out Zedekiah’s eyes and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon.
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By way of the garden and through the gate? But was still brought to slaughter?
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4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king’s garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah. 5 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him. 6 There at Riblah the king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes and also killed all the nobles of Judah. 7 Then he put out Zedekiah’s eyes and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon.
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By way of the garden and through the gate? But was still brought to slaughter?
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Luke 11:51
from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, all of it will be charged to this generation.
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4 When Zedekiah king of Judah and all the soldiers saw them, they fled; they left the city at night by way of the king’s garden, through the gate between the two walls, and headed toward the Arabah. 5 But the Babylonian army pursued them and overtook Zedekiah in the plains of Jericho. They captured him and took him to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon at Riblah in the land of Hamath, where he pronounced sentence on him. 6 There at Riblah the king of Babylon slaughtered the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes and also killed all the nobles of Judah. 7 Then he put out Zedekiah’s eyes and bound him with bronze shackles to take him to Babylon.
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By way of the garden and through the gate? But was still brought to slaughter?
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Luke 11:51
from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, who was killed between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, all of it will be charged to this generation.
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Zedekiah was given the council of the Lord through Jeremiah but refused it. His epitaph reads “He did evil in the eyes of the Lord.”

Luke 12:48
But the one who unknowingly does things worthy of punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and from him who has been entrusted with much, even more will be demanded.
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By way of the garden and through the gate? But was still brought to slaughter?

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Gen 3:7-8
7And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; so they sewed together fig leaves and made coverings for themselves.
8Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
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By way of the garden and through the gate? But was still brought to slaughter?

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Gen 3:7-8
7And the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew that they were naked; so they sewed together fig leaves and made coverings for themselves.
8Then the man and his wife heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the breeze of the day, and they hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden.
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Isaiah 30:1
Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
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I find it shocking, this doctrine, has not been screamed by any prominent Christian ever.





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