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Comets and the Clovis People

 
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Comets and the Clovis People
June 28, 2007
Comet theory collides with Clovis research, may explain disappearance of ancient people

A theory put forth by a group of 25 geo-scientists suggests that a massive comet exploded over Canada, possibly wiping out both beast and man around 12,900 years ago, and pushing the earth into another ice age.



University of South Carolina archaeologist Dr. Albert Goodyear said the theory may not be such "out-of-this-world" thinking based on his study of ancient stone-tool artifacts he and his team have excavated from the Topper dig site in Allendale, as well as ones found in Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia.



The tools, or fluted spear points, made by flaking and chipping flint, were used for hunting and made by the Clovis people, who lived 13,100 to 12,900 years ago, and from the Redstone people who emerged afterwards. The two points are distinctly different in appearance, with Redstone points more impressively long and steeple-shaped.

"I saw a tremendous drop-off of Redstone points after Clovis," said Goodyear. "When you see such a widespread decline or pattern like that, you really have to wonder whether there is a population decline to go with it."

For every Redstone point, Goodyear says, there are four or five Clovis points. His findings are leading archaeologists from across North America to reexamine their fluted points, and their inventories are yielding similar results: a widespread decline of post-Clovis points that suggests a possible widespread decline of humans. [link to uscnews.sc.edu]
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Interesting timing on this and flood legends:

"Looking for evidence of ancient cataclysmic floods, Underworld explores up-to-date geological and climatological research on what may have happened during the last 17,000 years. Central to Hancock's investigation are inundation maps created by Dr. Glen Milne of Durham University which show vast tracts of mostly coastal land which were submerged by three waves of cataclysmic flooding between 17,000 and 8,000 years ago. The area of land -- the best quality habitable land of that time -- lost to the sea was huge: 5 percent of the earth's surface or 25 million square kilometers." [link to www.theosophy-nw.org]
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Thanks for posting this!

really interesting connection, although IMO there is not enough evidence to support his claim.

I found this which i think is also quite interesting, just follow the links for more info.

[link to theorionzone.blogspot.com]

I'm still waiting for the day i find my first clovis point.

one of these days perhaps.


I did find a paleo knife last month, estimated to be 9000 - 11,000 . I sent it off to be authenticated.
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(edit) 9000 - 11,000 yrs old
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Thanks for posting this!

really interesting connection, although IMO there is not enough evidence to support his claim.

I found this which i think is also quite interesting, just follow the links for more info.

[link to theorionzone.blogspot.com]

I'm still waiting for the day i find my first clovis point.

one of these days perhaps.


I did find a paleo knife last month, estimated to be 9000 - 11,000 . I sent it off to be authenticated.
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You're welcome and thanks for your link, intriguing info.
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June 28, 2007
Comet theory collides with Clovis research, may explain disappearance of ancient people

A theory put forth by a group of 25 geo-scientists suggests that a massive comet exploded over Canada, possibly wiping out both beast and man around 12,900 years ago, and pushing the earth into another ice age.



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This is the Younger Dryas Event. Mainstream science is finally catching on that the genetic bottlenecks around 13,000 years ago were caused by a cataclysmic event.

Large mammals which had roamed the Earth for Millions of years disappeared at this time: Mastodons, Giant Bear, giant beaver, North American horse, camels, etc. all went extinct roughly concurrent with this event.

This theory has been gathering steam for 70 years (or longer) but mainstream "knowledge" has been slow to capitulate.

There are literally thousands of Paleogeological papers on the world-wide effects of the Younger Dryas event, but connecting this to a recent (13,000 year ago) mass extinction event is strictly taboo.

Paul LaViolette, Stichen, and others have proposes that this ancient cataclysm is recorded in our ancient scripture.
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Zetas right again!
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June 28, 2007
Comet theory collides with Clovis research, may explain disappearance of ancient people

A theory put forth by a group of 25 geo-scientists suggests that a massive comet exploded over Canada, possibly wiping out both beast and man around 12,900 years ago, and pushing the earth into another ice age.






This is the Younger Dryas Event. Mainstream science is finally catching on that the genetic bottlenecks around 13,000 years ago were caused by a cataclysmic event.

Large mammals which had roamed the Earth for Millions of years disappeared at this time: Mastodons, Giant Bear, giant beaver, North American horse, camels, etc. all went extinct roughly concurrent with this event.

This theory has been gathering steam for 70 years (or longer) but mainstream "knowledge" has been slow to capitulate.

There are literally thousands of Paleogeological papers on the world-wide effects of the Younger Dryas event, but connecting this to a recent (13,000 year ago) mass extinction event is strictly taboo.

Paul LaViolette, Stichen, and others have proposes that this ancient cataclysm is recorded in our ancient scripture.
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Interesting how many events, myths and legends happen to fall in a relatively narrow time-frame and how a number of researchers (Donnelly,Sitchen,Velikovsky and others) believe there is a cyclical nature to them.
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