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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

 
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I tried to answer as well, but it seemed overlooked. I don't believe that all Christians on here are as TL described. For those that know only 3-4 scriptures, it would be best for them to show themselves approved, and then return. If you only have 3-4 verses in your arsenal, you are hurting the cause more than helping. I gave what I thought was a sincere, and non-attacking answer (which is not easy for a fighter), and it was not discussed.
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
actually,,,I know the bible better than all of you

I was a PASTOR FOR MANY YEARS!


Now your starting to make sense. I see where you're coming from. But before you say you "know" the Bible, consider this, about people in these last days;

... puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

Note especially the last line.. does that strike a nerve?

I would hate everything about the churches and "their God". But here's a wake up call - followers of the True God call those Antichrists.

My condolences for you having been misled and no doubt many years inadvertantly in servitude of Satans system, honestly.
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Again, patience and love is what we need when we come face to face with negatives things about our Creator.
Thanks for your input.
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All I see is a lot of pretty colours, the words in and of themselves don't really mean a whole lot because there isn't a whole lot there.

One Bible quote that can be interpreted in many ways (many of those supporting a Loving God) is Your ammo for what purpose Tommy? To continue trying to separate and maintain fights through that separation?

happy is the man who smashes children's minds open upon the rocks of wisdom..
He enlightens them? This is what i feel.
 Quoting: Silent Human


See, Silent Human gets it. Choice of perspective is what it is all about. Why would We continue choosing perspectives based on separation, slander and foolish interpretations of metaphoric writings when they only lead to further destruction? Isn't it about time to start working together to move past Our past and forge an experience based on the Highest Good of All That Is?

It's time to move on Tommy, unless You feel so inclined as to continue showing everyone how silly it looks to rant about subjective interpretations based in illusion. Either way, We will use You as You can be used to assist in the fulfillment of what is in All of Our Highest Interest.

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I tried to answer as well, but it seemed overlooked. I don't believe that all Christians on here are as TL described. For those that know only 3-4 scriptures, it would be best for them to show themselves approved, and then return. If you only have 3-4 verses in your arsenal, you are hurting the cause more than helping. I gave what I thought was a sincere, and non-attacking answer (which is not easy for a fighter), and it was not discussed.
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Hello my good friend. I see that when truth is presented those that are hurting for answers and wanting to over power others by what they think is true, must go do some quick searching to continue with their rebuttles.

They will avoid looking at the truth, and will make a strong stand on empty boxes, and in the end, fall over and "hurt themselves".

I tried to show patience, and trying my best over the net to show truth of this subject. And if I fail, that is not something I can control.
I have said this a 100 times on glp alone.

Christians, and non-Christians like to power-play each other.

It would be better if we dig deep into the Word and find the hidden things that lead, guide, and protect us all from the world that is controlled by those "Kenites".
They are the ones that are helping to control the four hidden beast systems as I have shared so many times.
Political, educational, ecconomical, and the worse one, religious beast systems.
So, when we see churches confused, we can be assured that a Kenite is somewhere in the background controlling things.

And there is not a Kenite around ever corner either. They are few, and they want to stay hidden.

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I did not get a rebuttle from OP on Eze. chapter 8 and 9.
Why?

I can assume that he is finding out that I was correct and that the reason God ordered such things was to protect His children from being involved with Satan's bride, "Astorath".

I have been trying to get OP to understand that sealing is something that only God can do, not man, not some church, nor little star.
OP, would you take the time and share with us Eccl. chapter 12:all of it?
If you were a pastor, and have studied as much as you have, could you tell us all of those metaphors and explain them so we all can understand them?
Please those who understand that chapter, I ask you to keep still for a moment and let the Holy Spirit move apon OP.

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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!
 Quoting: Tommy.Luciferi


I have spoken with you before. I believe in God. I do not go to church on Sunday. I follow the only holy day there is, Saturday. I repected you and did not force my beliefs on you. You said you respected me as well. In light of our mutual respect. If you think God is so evil, so vile and so wrong. Why do you persist in coming to believers with questions? Why have you not moved on? What is motivating you. If you are here to save us, from our beliefs, we do not wish to be saved from them any more that you wish to believe. Or maybe you are wrestling with your beliefs. Help me understand why you spend this time coming here and provoking "believers" to argue. You get angry when they provoke you, right?
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


I have spoken with you before. I believe in God. I do not go to church on Sunday. I follow the only holy day there is, Saturday. I repected you and did not force my beliefs on you. You said you respected me as well. In light of our mutual respect. If you think God is so evil, so vile and so wrong. Why do you persist in coming to believers with questions? Why have you not moved on? What is motivating you. If you are here to save us, from our beliefs, we do not wish to be saved from them any more that you wish to believe. Or maybe you are wrestling with your beliefs. Help me understand why you spend this time coming here and provoking "believers" to argue. You get angry when they provoke you, right?
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Isn't that what LUCIFERi's do? shrug
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


I have spoken with you before. I believe in God. I do not go to church on Sunday. I follow the only holy day there is, Saturday. I repected you and did not force my beliefs on you. You said you respected me as well. In light of our mutual respect. If you think God is so evil, so vile and so wrong. Why do you persist in coming to believers with questions? Why have you not moved on? What is motivating you. If you are here to save us, from our beliefs, we do not wish to be saved from them any more that you wish to believe. Or maybe you are wrestling with your beliefs. Help me understand why you spend this time coming here and provoking "believers" to argue. You get angry when they provoke you, right?
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Isn't that what LUCIFERi's do? shrug
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
Hi TL,
gripes getting to you, demon possessed one.
Lets have the whole context, including the history,
before you, a mere as yet mortal, but soon to be flamingly alone eternal(but you will get to hear the others, but not correspond.

Unless...., of course you repent.

yes please- rather than personally assault and slander me- a trait amongst you holy christians- PLEASE DO SHARE THE HISTORY OF WHY IT IS HAPPINESS TO CRUSH INFANT SKULLS UPON ROCKS

go on- enlighten us, please :)
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I suppose its the same happiness that you feel after ripping someone's arm off and beating them with it.
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Why don't you do everyone a favor and shut your self righteous hypocritical pie hole.

I guess you don't have to be Christian to be an evil fuck do you?
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Context,context! As usual Tommy fails to understand scripture, this chapter of Psalms is describing the Babylonian captivity of Israel(See Daniel)and is describing the FUTRUE destruction of Babylon and the happiness of those who will destroy Babylon which is clearly stated in verse 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us." Who destroys Babylon and is happy to "dash the liitle ones"? Rev.17 tells us "And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." The Antichrist Beast Empire "dasheth thy little ones against the stones". Why are they "happy"? The hate the "whore"(Babylon) and owe their place as kings to the Antichrist. So Tommy you fail, it is not Christians or any other group you hate who commits this act it is the very god you serve!
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Context,context! As usual Tommy fails to understand scripture, this chapter of Psalms is describing the Babylonian captivity of Israel(See Daniel)and is describing the FUTRUE destruction of Babylon and the happiness of those who will destroy Babylon which is clearly stated in verse 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us." Who destroys Babylon and is happy to "dash the liitle ones"? Rev.17 tells us "And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." The Antichrist Beast Empire "dasheth thy little ones against the stones". Why are they "happy"? The hate the "whore"(Babylon) and owe their place as kings to the Antichrist. So Tommy you fail, it is not Christians or any other group you hate who commits this act it is the very god you serve!
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Proud to read your words. You have completed a bit more than myself on this subject of the "stones".
And there is more:

I questioned Tommy and asked to help us with Ecc. chapter 12. He left! He is like Elvis, Tommy has left the building>>
just kidding Tommy.

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Tommy sidewaysTommy-Clone

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The stones represent rigid belief and the little children have more wisdom then most adults. They see truth as clear as day.
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Tommy knew it was time for Christians to get on glp after work, so he left.

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Tommy knew it was time for Christians to get on glp after work, so he left.

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I check out GLP FROM work lol.....

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FHL(C) needs to shut up and let posters like Little Star and Gradient handle Tommy's questions. I am impressed by the way Little Star and Gradient handled thier responses without attacking Tommy for his questions.
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


I have spoken with you before. I believe in God. I do not go to church on Sunday. I follow the only holy day there is, Saturday. I repected you and did not force my beliefs on you. You said you respected me as well. In light of our mutual respect. If you think God is so evil, so vile and so wrong. Why do you persist in coming to believers with questions? Why have you not moved on? What is motivating you. If you are here to save us, from our beliefs, we do not wish to be saved from them any more that you wish to believe. Or maybe you are wrestling with your beliefs. Help me understand why you spend this time coming here and provoking "believers" to argue. You get angry when they provoke you, right?
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Isn't that what LUCIFERi's do? shrug
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Who was it that taught tl this hate?

He wants to raise everybody elses children!
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Who was it that taught tl this hate?

He wants to raise everybody elses children!
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If he ever got between me and my spanking of my own kids, I'd turn him over my knee and give him the biggest ass-whoop'n of his entire life! It's none of his damn business how I discipline my own kids!
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252198 Are you kidding me?

with all the reference's and proof that Tommy came up with, to back what he is trying to explain, that is all you can come up with? is a personal attack? That again, Just Like the other is not very loving or forgiving like the christian way is supose to be. plus no one has truely answered any of his questions or mine.
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Context,context! As usual Tommy fails to understand scripture, this chapter of Psalms is describing the Babylonian captivity of Israel(See Daniel)and is describing the FUTRUE destruction of Babylon and the happiness of those who will destroy Babylon which is clearly stated in verse 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us." Who destroys Babylon and is happy to "dash the liitle ones"? Rev.17 tells us "And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire." The Antichrist Beast Empire "dasheth thy little ones against the stones". Why are they "happy"? The hate the "whore"(Babylon) and owe their place as kings to the Antichrist. So Tommy you fail, it is not Christians or any other group you hate who commits this act it is the very god you serve!





Mathetes,


After reading your quote above, i will have to say, you do the same thing as the other. you just quote from the scriptures, i don't see any other reference's. try to use another reference than the bible and quoting scriptures.

I would be very curious as to what you find.


So many are afraid to leave the rehelm of their familar and look else were and see other opinions and insights.

My questions have not been answered yet :(
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FHL(C) needs to shut up and let posters like Little Star and Gradient handle Tommy's questions. I am impressed by the way Little Star and Gradient handled thier responses without attacking Tommy for his questions.
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well well, here we have a mis-nomer, claiming that everyone else(and particularly tl) can speak their minds/hearts etc, but i cant.
So lets clarify the issue mis-nomer and apparent hater of women, tl should be encouraged to spread lies and hate(and worse) and not be challenged about it.
And please don't say yes, but not the way i did it, because all that says is you have personal issues about me, ones you are afraid of making public, but are happy to pass on as innuendo.
It really doesn't make much difference , so called hater of women, you can engage here at the forum or choose the threads you want to write or respond too, so you want to support tl and lies, your choice, i will stand against blatant attempts at deceiving others about scripture and YHVH/YAHshua/God.

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FHL(C) needs to shut up and let posters like Little Star and Gradient handle Tommy's questions. I am impressed by the way Little Star and Gradient handled thier responses without attacking Tommy for his questions.


well well, here we have a mis-nomer, claiming that everyone else(and particularly tl) can speak their minds/hearts etc, but i cant.
So lets clarify the issue mis-nomer and apparent hater of women, tl should be encouraged to spread lies and hate(and worse) and not be challenged about it.
And please don't say yes, but not the way i did it, because all that says is you have personal issues about me, ones you are afraid of making public, but are happy to pass on as innuendo.
It really doesn't make much difference , so called hater of women, you can engage here at the forum or choose the threads you want to write or respond too, so you want to support tl and lies, your choice, i will stand against blatant attempts at deceiving others about scripture and YHVH/YAHshua/God.

Thank you in Him.
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Yep, you deffo need to SHUT UP. You're weird and come off really stupid.

P.S. You need to look up the real meaning of 'misanthrope'. I'm an equal opportunity disliker of all mankind.
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FHL(C) needs to shut up and let posters like Little Star and Gradient handle Tommy's questions.


Yep, you deffo need to SHUT UP. You're weird and come off really stupid.

P.S. You need to look up the real meaning of 'misanthrope'. I'm an equal opportunity disliker of all mankind.
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Thats a lol, the weirdo i can see is your writing and chosen picture for your AV, people who live in glass houses, like yourself shouldn't throw stones, lol. And if i say you hate women and you say you dislike both men and women, doesn't prove my assertion was wrong now then, does it.
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Mathetes,


After reading your quote above, i will have to say, you do the same thing as the other. you just quote from the scriptures, i don't see any other reference's. try to use another reference than the bible and quoting scriptures.

I would be very curious as to what you find.


So many are afraid to leave the rehelm of their familar and look else were and see other opinions and insights.

My questions have not been answered yet :(
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I guess my question be; wouldn't the correct context need to be discussed before any outside references could be? If you don't start at the same context, then what does anything else matter? If scripture is being discussed, then the surrounding scriptures need to be taken into consideration to fully grasp what is being said. This includes history, etc, from other scripture reference points.
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I guess my question be; wouldn't the correct context need to be discussed before any outside references could be? If you don't start at the same context, then what does anything else matter? If scripture is being discussed, then the surrounding scriptures need to be taken into consideration to fully grasp what is being said. This includes history, etc, from other scripture reference points.


wouldn't the correct context need to be discussed before any outside references could be?

That really all depends on who you are talking to at the moment. with Regular people you can do that, but with anyone that belives the scriptures are not true or don't belive in the bible, you need to go else where to prove your point, and say...."Look i found this, an outside source." See what is said here, and you show them the references and sources of where you got the info from. That will work alot better.


If you don't start at the same context, then what does anything else matter?



You use the same context, but you get it from another source, what matters is this, you show who ever you are talking to, that you took the time and effort to search out another source, they will respect you more, and you will have there attention and that is what truely matters.


You can get all you need from other sources than just the bible. so many people have studied deeply into the scriptures, there is so much out there for references, opinions,documents, historys, cultures, that all started from the same place and many have the same storys from there ancentors and so on, that would really spark interest. always just useing the bible turns many away.
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I guess my question be; wouldn't the correct context need to be discussed before any outside references could be? If you don't start at the same context, then what does anything else matter? If scripture is being discussed, then the surrounding scriptures need to be taken into consideration to fully grasp what is being said. This includes history, etc, from other scripture reference points.


wouldn't the correct context need to be discussed before any outside references could be?

That really all depends on who you are talking to at the moment. with Regular people you can do that, but with anyone that belives the scriptures are not true or don't belive in the bible, you need to go else where to prove your point, and say...."Look i found this, an outside source." See what is said here, and you show them the references and sources of where you got the info from. That will work alot better.


If you don't start at the same context, then what does anything else matter?



You use the same context, but you get it from another source, what matters is this, you show who ever you are talking to, that you took the time and effort to search out another source, they will respect you more, and you will have there attention and that is what truely matters.


You can get all you need from other sources than just the bible. so many people have studied deeply into the scriptures, there is so much out there for references, opinions,documents, historys, cultures, that all started from the same place and many have the same storys from there ancentors and so on, that would really spark interest. always just useing the bible turns many away.

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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
I've been reading this thread and have been laughing,LOL!!

One group here is trying convince the other group they're right and vice versa.

One group takes the bible at face value.

one group takes the bible as a coded text and injects into the verses words that are not there, but translates what THEY think the bible means.

Man wrote the bible and a homo king had his scribes in the 1600s to rush together a book from many ancient books that in which more books were left out than placed into the book made from books just to control the weak minded peons during the time.

God talks to your soul, not through some man made books at which must are still buried in sand.

Most people believe in the bible instead of God.

God wants you to find your own answers, not adhere to a set of books made of paper and profits ($).
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08/07/2007 11:29 PM
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
I've been reading this thread and have been laughing,LOL!!

One group here is trying convince the other group they're right and vice versa.

One group takes the bible at face value.

one group takes the bible as a coded text and injects into the verses words that are not there, but translates what THEY think the bible means.

Man wrote the bible and a homo king had his scribes in the 1600s to rush together a book from many ancient books that in which more books were left out than placed into the book made from books just to control the weak minded peons during the time.

God talks to your soul, not through some man made books at which must are still buried in sand.

Most people believe in the bible instead of God.

God wants you to find your own answers, not adhere to a set of books made of paper and profits ($).
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08/07/2007 11:35 PM
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


Oh son of perdition, If you could go back to the moment Hitler was born and watched as someone picked him up and dashed his head against the wall a few times, would you have remorse for him, knowing what atrocities he would have committed in his adulthood?

It doesn't matter what you believe about God. Your sole intention here is to mock, and this is God's purpose for your life (2Peter3). If you do not belong to God (and that would be His choice - not yours) then you will never come to the knowledge of the truth and salvation. You are a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction, and you were made to be taken and destroyed. (Romans 9, 2Peter2)
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Then you are saying there is no free will. Otherwise, how could god know that these children were going to be bad.

And if he's so concerned about ridding us bad people, then why not kill Hitler as a child.





GLP