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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

 
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FHL(C) needs to shut up and let posters like Little Star and Gradient handle Tommy's questions.


Yep, you deffo need to SHUT UP. You're weird and come off really stupid.

P.S. You need to look up the real meaning of 'misanthrope'. I'm an equal opportunity disliker of all mankind.


Thats a lol, the weirdo i can see is your writing and chosen picture for your AV, people who live in glass houses, like yourself shouldn't throw stones, lol. And if i say you hate women and you say you dislike both men and women, doesn't prove my assertion was wrong now then, does it.
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WTF does my chosen avatar have to do with anything? I picked the Sleestack because I think it is campy and funny. If that makes me a bad person in your fucked up opinion, I can live with it. The fact that you take a silly avatar as a literal indication of who a person is just proves you are too stupid and narrow minded to be debating in this thread.
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Ah Tommy what have you done Is the energy Feeding is GOOD

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Anyway...!

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O, and before i decide to start answering your deceit, which i will.
Get this, you think you are some of god in flesh, able to command , spirits and forces and powers etc, well i have news for you, the least saint in the Kingdom of heaven is greater than your lord(whom you self title as[no matter what you say]), so get this, you have done some really bad things in the last 24 hours tl, and its going to come back and get you a 1000 fold just on my say so in Him, but if even one other saint who reads this agrees with an amen it will be at least 10,000 fold worse.
You want to play dirty unclean one, then let me help show you, that YHVH/YAHshua is so much more powerful than your unclean imagination, adherences or self titled liege lord is, amen.
Thank You Lord God/YHVH, amen.
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AMIEN!!!
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


Oh son of perdition, If you could go back to the moment Hitler was born and watched as someone picked him up and dashed his head against the wall a few times, would you have remorse for him, knowing what atrocities he would have committed in his adulthood?

It doesn't matter what you believe about God. Your sole intention here is to mock, and this is God's purpose for your life (2Peter3). If you do not belong to God (and that would be His choice - not yours) then you will never come to the knowledge of the truth and salvation. You are a vessel of wrath fitted to destruction, and you were made to be taken and destroyed. (Romans 9, 2Peter2)


Then you are saying there is no free will. Otherwise, how could god know that these children were going to be bad.

And if he's so concerned about ridding us bad people, then why not kill Hitler as a child.
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Why not prevent Hitler from having been abused as a child and maybe he wouldn't have turned out like he did? I don't get how deaths of children are the answer.

I don't understand why the very Christian posters who argue all the live-long day that abortion is wrong no matter what are the same posters who turn around and try to justify the murders of babies and children in the Old Testament by arguing that the children's deaths were ultimately a good thing because it means they got to go to Heaven, since they were "mercifully" prevented from reaching the age of accountability. It's ridiculous!
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O, and before i decide to start answering your deceit, which i will.
Get this, you think you are some of god in flesh, able to command , spirits and forces and powers etc, well i have news for you, the least saint in the Kingdom of heaven is greater than your lord(whom you self title as[no matter what you say]), so get this, you have done some really bad things in the last 24 hours tl, and its going to come back and get you a 1000 fold just on my say so in Him, but if even one other saint who reads this agrees with an amen it will be at least 10,000 fold worse.
You want to play dirty unclean one, then let me help show you, that YHVH/YAHshua is so much more powerful than your unclean imagination, adherences or self titled liege lord is, amen.
Thank You Lord God/YHVH, amen.


AMIEN!!!
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You misspelled DAMIEN.
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zetas right again! Tommy.Luciferi is evil!

Now that you took this out of context I will explain this to you as a child.

8 O Daughter of Babylon, doomed to destruction,
happy is he who repays you
for what you have done to us-

9 he who seizes your infants
and dashes them against the rocks.


See you left out verse eight, it's important when trying to understand this. GOD did not say this, it was a lament from a prisoner who was shipped off to babylon. Now if you were seized and taken out of your home would you be bitter at your captors?

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s.a.tan deserves no answer since the answer to the question has already been determined by him and each answer one gives is only weighed against this predetermined answer so as to try and trap the guillible who are trying to think it through for themselves. Good to see that only partial words taken out of context are used as is the trademark of a deceiver.
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Look OP> What you are saying is true, that Christians go off half cocked and do stupid dumb things in the name of the Lord.
 Quoting: Little Star


Little Star said it all right there


combine that with FHL(C)`s evil frothing of the mouth and Mathletes sidestepping of answering the questions..............shows anyone with a brain that they cant answer the questions about why their god wants to kill children


"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6). "And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18). "Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21). "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3). Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
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NOW TELL ME THIS WAS NOT THE 'DIVINE WORDS' FROM YAHWEH HIMSELF?

IF YOU SAY THESE WERE MEN'S THOUGHTS, NOT GOD'S...THEN WHEN YAHWEH SPEAKS IN SCRIPTURE- YOU ARE ADMITTING MEN MADE IT UP

IF YOU SAY YAHWEH HIMSELF SPOKE THESE WORDS- THEN YOU MUST ADMIT YOU SERVE A SATANIC EVIL BLOOD HUNGERING GOD

WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE?

I BACKED IT ALL UP WITH SCRIPTURE


ANSWER IT WITHOUT CALLING ME A DEVIL.
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David sacrificed seven sons of Saul to stop famine

There was a famine during the regime of king David for three consecutive years. David enquired of the Lord regarding the cause of famine. The Lord answered that none but Saul was responsible for famine, because it was he who slew the Gibeonites. The king David handed over seven children of Saul into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the Lord…… Thereafter God stopped famine and bestowed bliss on the land. In this connection, the readers are requested to peruse all the fourteen verses of chapter 21 of II Samuel. Here I am presenting only three verses as under :

Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the Lord. And the Lord answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.”
- II Samuel, 21/1

Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gibeah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose. And the king said, I will give them.”
- II Samuel, 21/6

And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord; and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.”
- II Samuel, 21/9


Here a question arises : What offence did seven innocent children commit that they-were hanged together ? Was it justified to put them to death to stop famine ?
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!
 Quoting: Tommy.Luciferi

tell me too- WHY YOUR GOD, YAHWEH, CONDONES HUMAN SACRIFICE

Jephthah burnt his only daughter, as an offering to God

In obedience to this law of Biblical God, Jephthah, the victorious hero of war, burnt his daughter When Jephthah returned to his home Mizpeh, his daughter came out to receive him by playing timbrel and dancing. She was his only child. When Jephthah saw her, he tore his clothes in agnoy and said to her, “Alas ! Oh my daughter ! You have put me to trouble ! I have given a word to God. I cannot go back.” The daughter replied to her father, “If you have given a word to the Lord, do to me in accordance with your word given to God, and fulfil your vow to make an offering of me to your Lord.” Here are the two verses in this connection

And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me; for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.”
- Judges, 11/35

And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which bath proceeded out of thy mouth;……”
- Judges, 11/36

 Quoting: Tommy.Luciferi

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BTW...
"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).

....is about IDOLATORS........this is what christians are told to do by their god
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
s.a.tan deserves no answer since the answer to the question has already been determined by him and each answer one gives is only weighed against this predetermined answer so as to try and trap the guillible who are trying to think it through for themselves. Good to see that only partial words taken out of context are used as is the trademark of a deceiver.
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funny as hell- i point out their god is a blood thirsty killer and they call me 'evil'

lmao :) :5a:
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s.a.tan deserves no answer since the answer to the question has already been determined by him and each answer one gives is only weighed against this predetermined answer so as to try and trap the guillible who are trying to think it through for themselves. Good to see that only partial words taken out of context are used as is the trademark of a deceiver.

funny as hell- i point out their god is a blood thirsty killer and they call me 'evil'

lmao :) :5a:
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Tommy, is that you? Or your clone? I can't tell you two apart.
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funny as hell- i point out their god is a blood thirsty killer and they call me 'evil'

lmao :) :5a:
 Quoting: Tommy.Luciferi

Difference in perspective. A cleanser of wickedness and that had to take place and has already been done. Will happen again on a wide scale due to the same disobedience and wickedness. Easy enough that a child could understand. People choose where they will be when the time comes. Either with Yisrael or against. If you might be in further derision as to who is Yisrael... maybe none can understand but those who are Yisrael in Yahushua in YHVH who is love. Love will render justice. Good or bad depending upon what side one chooses to be on.

If anything to be said about what this one is doing let it be said by the One creator and most high YHVH who is just and true. Amein.
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sideways No, I mean are you the banana on the giving end, or the banana on the receiving end?
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
That passage is just saying, "Revenge is sweet... I hope we can get it."

Which is why Christianity is so superior.

Jesus came and reminded the world that truly, they were not to return evil with evil, not to seek revenge, but love your neighbor, forgive your brother, love your enemies. Forgive and move on with your life.

The Psalms were written by a warrior David, who later became King. Soldiers want revenge for defeat, it is a natural instinct.

Get over it.
"See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ." (Colossians 2:8)
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sideways No, I mean are you the banana on the giving end, or the banana on the receiving end?
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bananasex And in this one, is the banana on top the Tommy-clone, or is it the real Tommy?
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"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6). "And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18). "Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21). "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3). Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
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NOW TELL ME THIS WAS NOT THE 'DIVINE WORDS' FROM YAHWEH HIMSELF?

IF YOU SAY THESE WERE MEN'S THOUGHTS, NOT GOD'S...THEN WHEN YAHWEH SPEAKS IN SCRIPTURE- YOU ARE ADMITTING MEN MADE IT UP

IF YOU SAY YAHWEH HIMSELF SPOKE THESE WORDS- THEN YOU MUST ADMIT YOU SERVE A SATANIC EVIL BLOOD HUNGERING GOD

WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE?

I BACKED IT ALL UP WITH SCRIPTURE


ANSWER IT WITHOUT CALLING ME A DEVIL.

ANYONE?



Again OP, you are in error. Do you know what the Amalekites did ? NOPE! Or otherwise you would understand what you are reading.
They cross their blood with the offsprings of the fallen angels.
Here is why this must of been done as it is written.
Satan was trying to destroy the blood line from Ha-Adam and Eve to keep the blood line from being pure. Virgin Mary is not just virgin of flesh, but virgin blood as Noah blood lines were.
The fallen angels kept coming down to try and destroy that pure blood line to make Gods plan for salvation fail. But Satan failed over and over.
This is why God ordered that scenario that you are struggling with.
This is why I quote 1 Chronoicles 2:55 lots of times to show you the evil seed line of Satan, which are called Kenites in that verse. Now these Kenites are still here today with us and they rule the world. But God ordered us in Gen. not to touch them, and to leave them alone. (Most Christians do not have a handle on this, and so they think the "tares" are just bad people. No, they are the Kenites that look like the wheat, wheat being the children of God.
So OP, the scripture's you have been giving is all in reflection of those that inner mixed with the offsprings of the fallen angels. Go read OP Gen. chapter 6:1-4 and pay attention to verse 4 telling you in these words "also after that"; meaning that they kept coming down over and over to mix with humans.
Now the second influx you will find in Gen. 14:5. Rephaims, look them up. Their daddy's name is called Rapha. He was one of the most wicked angels that came down side stepping Gods plan of everyone being born of woman. That is why Jude 6" And the angels which kept not their first estate(did not stay in heaven), but left their won habitation(left heaven side stepping Gods plan and come directly here to suduce woman as referanced in Gen. 6:2), He(God) hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness(there are there today, waiting) unto the judgment of the great day."
So there OP, I filled in the blanks for you. Does that mean you will see? NOPE, because I can see your heart bent on destroying anyone that gets into your way of thinking: That God is evil.
Blessings to all
I hope you Christians see what I have posted. Lets us run the race with patience and let the chips fall where they may. You have no control over anyones soul, let us teach the hidden things together, and maybe we can capture the hearts of others to look deeper into the "Word".
 Quoting: Little Star


Exactly!! Read the book of Enoch also for better understanding on this subject. That is the reason for the flood. They came back after the flood. All the killing was for us to try and rid the land of this seed, but the Israelites kept mixing with them. I also, believe if you study about the Gods in mythology it can be traced to fallen angels. It can get very deep. Everything God does is for a good reason, though our simple minds can't always understand. When you recieve the spirit of God and pray for wisdom and truth you begin to get revelations from God that have been sealed or hidden. It's only by God's spirit that scripture can be understood beyond the first layer of what it seems to say. God is love and merciful and wished no humans made in his image to perish. I pray that he reveals himself to you and you learn the truth of this. Satan is the liar and murderer. He wishes the innocent to die and enjoys it. Whenever, you hear about evil done to children in this world; that you obviously care about; you can be sure Satan is behind it. If you want nothing to do with GOd. that's your choice, but if you care about evilness against children, why do you honor by your name the one whose sole purpose is to destroy all of mankind. The two don't seem to corospond. I think God is calling on you and Satan is wanting you also. I believe a battle is going on for your soul and you don't even realize it. I pray that God will open your eyes to what is really going on in the spirit realm and that Satan only wants to destroy you and every other human being on this planet. Don't wind up on the wrong side for eternity. God wants to give you everlasting life and his kingdom. He wants to be a father to you. I feel this so strong in my Spirit He loves you but want force his love on you. You are stronger than the force that wants to have you. Come to him and you will understand his perfect love. It's up to you to open the door of your heart and stop rebelling against him. I don't know if this is your time, but I do, believe that the time will come that you see the light. When that time comes he'll be there waiting with open arms. You can't hate him more than he can love you because love is what he is. I hope one day you see that.
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Look OP> What you are saying is true, that Christians go off half cocked and do stupid dumb things in the name of the Lord.


Little Star said it all right there


combine that with FHL(C)`s evil frothing of the mouth and Mathletes sidestepping of answering the questions..............shows anyone with a brain that they cant answer the questions about why their god wants to kill children



"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6). "And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18). "Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21). "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3). Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
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NOW TELL ME THIS WAS NOT THE 'DIVINE WORDS' FROM YAHWEH HIMSELF?

IF YOU SAY THESE WERE MEN'S THOUGHTS, NOT GOD'S...THEN WHEN YAHWEH SPEAKS IN SCRIPTURE- YOU ARE ADMITTING MEN MADE IT UP

IF YOU SAY YAHWEH HIMSELF SPOKE THESE WORDS- THEN YOU MUST ADMIT YOU SERVE A SATANIC EVIL BLOOD HUNGERING GOD

WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE?

I BACKED IT ALL UP WITH SCRIPTURE


ANSWER IT WITHOUT CALLING ME A DEVIL.


David sacrificed seven sons of Saul to stop famine

There was a famine during the regime of king David for three consecutive years. David enquired of the Lord regarding the cause of famine. The Lord answered that none but Saul was responsible for famine, because it was he who slew the Gibeonites. The king David handed over seven children of Saul into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the Lord…… Thereafter God stopped famine and bestowed bliss on the land. In this connection, the readers are requested to peruse all the fourteen verses of chapter 21 of II Samuel. Here I am presenting only three verses as under :

Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the Lord. And the Lord answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.”
- II Samuel, 21/1

Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gibeah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose. And the king said, I will give them.”
- II Samuel, 21/6

And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord; and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.”
- II Samuel, 21/9


Here a question arises : What offence did seven innocent children commit that they-were hanged together ? Was it justified to put them to death to stop famine ?


Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


tell me too- WHY YOUR GOD, YAHWEH, CONDONES HUMAN SACRIFICE

Jephthah burnt his only daughter, as an offering to God

In obedience to this law of Biblical God, Jephthah, the victorious hero of war, burnt his daughter When Jephthah returned to his home Mizpeh, his daughter came out to receive him by playing timbrel and dancing. She was his only child. When Jephthah saw her, he tore his clothes in agnoy and said to her, “Alas ! Oh my daughter ! You have put me to trouble ! I have given a word to God. I cannot go back.” The daughter replied to her father, “If you have given a word to the Lord, do to me in accordance with your word given to God, and fulfil your vow to make an offering of me to your Lord.” Here are the two verses in this connection

And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me; for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.”
- Judges, 11/35

And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which bath proceeded out of thy mouth;……”
- Judges, 11/36


------
BTW...
"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).

....is about IDOLATORS........this is what christians are told to do by their god
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Man's opinion has no power in the matter of Truth.

The Blood Bought Born Again Christian Shall
continue to go to the Scriptures.
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Re: Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".
Look OP> What you are saying is true, that Christians go off half cocked and do stupid dumb things in the name of the Lord.


Little Star said it all right there


combine that with FHL(C)`s evil frothing of the mouth and Mathletes sidestepping of answering the questions..............shows anyone with a brain that they cant answer the questions about why their god wants to kill children



"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6). "And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18). "Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21). "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3). Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
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NOW TELL ME THIS WAS NOT THE 'DIVINE WORDS' FROM YAHWEH HIMSELF?

IF YOU SAY THESE WERE MEN'S THOUGHTS, NOT GOD'S...THEN WHEN YAHWEH SPEAKS IN SCRIPTURE- YOU ARE ADMITTING MEN MADE IT UP

IF YOU SAY YAHWEH HIMSELF SPOKE THESE WORDS- THEN YOU MUST ADMIT YOU SERVE A SATANIC EVIL BLOOD HUNGERING GOD

WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE?

I BACKED IT ALL UP WITH SCRIPTURE


ANSWER IT WITHOUT CALLING ME A DEVIL.


David sacrificed seven sons of Saul to stop famine

There was a famine during the regime of king David for three consecutive years. David enquired of the Lord regarding the cause of famine. The Lord answered that none but Saul was responsible for famine, because it was he who slew the Gibeonites. The king David handed over seven children of Saul into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the Lord…… Thereafter God stopped famine and bestowed bliss on the land. In this connection, the readers are requested to peruse all the fourteen verses of chapter 21 of II Samuel. Here I am presenting only three verses as under :

Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the Lord. And the Lord answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.”
- II Samuel, 21/1

Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gibeah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose. And the king said, I will give them.”
- II Samuel, 21/6

And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord; and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.”
- II Samuel, 21/9


Here a question arises : What offence did seven innocent children commit that they-were hanged together ? Was it justified to put them to death to stop famine ?


Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


tell me too- WHY YOUR GOD, YAHWEH, CONDONES HUMAN SACRIFICE

Jephthah burnt his only daughter, as an offering to God

In obedience to this law of Biblical God, Jephthah, the victorious hero of war, burnt his daughter When Jephthah returned to his home Mizpeh, his daughter came out to receive him by playing timbrel and dancing. She was his only child. When Jephthah saw her, he tore his clothes in agnoy and said to her, “Alas ! Oh my daughter ! You have put me to trouble ! I have given a word to God. I cannot go back.” The daughter replied to her father, “If you have given a word to the Lord, do to me in accordance with your word given to God, and fulfil your vow to make an offering of me to your Lord.” Here are the two verses in this connection

And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me; for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.”
- Judges, 11/35

And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which bath proceeded out of thy mouth;……”
- Judges, 11/36


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BTW...
"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).

....is about IDOLATORS........this is what christians are told to do by their god
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Psalm 137
Lament over the Destruction of Jerusalem

1 By the rivers of Babylon--
there we sat down and there we wept
when we remembered Zion.
2 On the willowsa there
we hung up our harps.
3 For there our captors
asked us for songs,
and our tormentors asked for mirth, saying,
"Sing us one of the songs of Zion!"

4 How could we sing the LORD's song
in a foreign land?
5 If I forget you, O Jerusalem,
let my right hand wither!
6 Let my tongue cling to the roof of my mouth,
if I do not remember you,
if I do not set Jerusalem
above my highest joy.

7 Remember, O LORD, against the Edomites
the day of Jerusalem's fall,
how they said, "Tear it down! Tear it down!
Down to its foundations!"
8 O daughter Babylon, you devastator!b
Happy shall they be who pay you back
what you have done to us!
9 Happy shall they be who take your little ones
and dash them against the rock!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 197661

Despite your psuedo sophistication, the answer to your thread is right there,in the very Psalm you referred to.It is not even slightly a mystery.
Also worth noting is that Babylon was destroyed by G-d, and He stated that in the end times, Babylon would seek to rise again, at which point He would slap it down again, one more time, for all time.
Babylon is Iraq, and it will never rise again.
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Look OP> What you are saying is true, that Christians go off half cocked and do stupid dumb things in the name of the Lord.


Little Star said it all right there


combine that with FHL(C)`s evil frothing of the mouth and Mathletes sidestepping of answering the questions..............shows anyone with a brain that they cant answer the questions about why their god wants to kill children



"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6). "And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18). "Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21). "Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3). Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
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NOW TELL ME THIS WAS NOT THE 'DIVINE WORDS' FROM YAHWEH HIMSELF?

IF YOU SAY THESE WERE MEN'S THOUGHTS, NOT GOD'S...THEN WHEN YAHWEH SPEAKS IN SCRIPTURE- YOU ARE ADMITTING MEN MADE IT UP

IF YOU SAY YAHWEH HIMSELF SPOKE THESE WORDS- THEN YOU MUST ADMIT YOU SERVE A SATANIC EVIL BLOOD HUNGERING GOD

WHICH IS YOUR CHOICE?

I BACKED IT ALL UP WITH SCRIPTURE


ANSWER IT WITHOUT CALLING ME A DEVIL.


David sacrificed seven sons of Saul to stop famine

There was a famine during the regime of king David for three consecutive years. David enquired of the Lord regarding the cause of famine. The Lord answered that none but Saul was responsible for famine, because it was he who slew the Gibeonites. The king David handed over seven children of Saul into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the Lord…… Thereafter God stopped famine and bestowed bliss on the land. In this connection, the readers are requested to peruse all the fourteen verses of chapter 21 of II Samuel. Here I am presenting only three verses as under :

Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the Lord. And the Lord answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.”
- II Samuel, 21/1

Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gibeah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose. And the king said, I will give them.”
- II Samuel, 21/6

And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord; and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.”
- II Samuel, 21/9


Here a question arises : What offence did seven innocent children commit that they-were hanged together ? Was it justified to put them to death to stop famine ?


Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!


tell me too- WHY YOUR GOD, YAHWEH, CONDONES HUMAN SACRIFICE

Jephthah burnt his only daughter, as an offering to God

In obedience to this law of Biblical God, Jephthah, the victorious hero of war, burnt his daughter When Jephthah returned to his home Mizpeh, his daughter came out to receive him by playing timbrel and dancing. She was his only child. When Jephthah saw her, he tore his clothes in agnoy and said to her, “Alas ! Oh my daughter ! You have put me to trouble ! I have given a word to God. I cannot go back.” The daughter replied to her father, “If you have given a word to the Lord, do to me in accordance with your word given to God, and fulfil your vow to make an offering of me to your Lord.” Here are the two verses in this connection

And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me; for I have opened my mouth unto the Lord, and I cannot go back.”
- Judges, 11/35

And she said unto him, My father, if thou hast opened thy mouth unto the Lord, do to me according to that which bath proceeded out of thy mouth;……”
- Judges, 11/36


------
BTW...
"As I listened, god said to the others, 'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).

....is about IDOLATORS........this is what christians are told to do by their god
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Hello Tommy.
Hey my friend when I stated this:

Look OP> What you are saying is true, that Christians go off half cocked and do stupid dumb things in the name of the Lord.
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It was not for you to capitalize apon. It was a statement that defines what I have personally have seen.
Now with saying that, I also see this in all things, and all religions and etc.
I had asked you Tommy to validate that you do understand what you are reading in the bible by sharing with us your understanding of Ecc. chapter 12:all
If you cannot understand that simple metaphoric chapter, how can you understand the harder things?
Why do you have such a grudge against Christians?
Did someone hurt you so badly that you feel that it is a moral imparitive to get back at all Christians?
If we leave out Christianity in our communications, would you still jump all over anyone that does not agree with you?

I have explained what you have been mis-understanding in Eze. chapter 9. Yet you refuse to share with us all why you have no rebuttle against what I have proven to be true in why God commanded the angels to put a seal ( tav = small letter t in Heb. alpahabet) those that worshipped Satan's bride Astorath. (Modern day name is Easter)
I have read the Book of Enoch, all versions, and it defines what really the bible is all about and why there is wars in the bible. Today the seed line of Satan rules the world, yet I do not see you rebuttling that info, about the Kenites.
So, without taking any more of your time, let us hear your response to Eccl. chapter 12. Let us see how good of pastor you used to be. You claim to have more knowledge on the bible than the rest of that, can you verify that for us all by demonstrating how you see the words in Eccl. chapter 12?

Thanks ahead of time Tommy for responding.

blessings to all
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By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down, yea, we wept, when we remembered Zion.
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Psa 137:2 We hanged our harps upon the willows in the midst thereof.
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Psa 137:3 For there they that carried us away captive required of us a song; and they that wasted us [required of us] mirth, [saying], Sing us [one] of the songs of Zion.
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Psa 137:4 How shall we sing the LORD'S song in a strange land?
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Psa 137:5 If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget [her cunning].
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Psa 137:6 If I do not remember thee, let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; if I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy.
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Psa 137:7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase [it], rase [it, even] to the foundation thereof.
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Psa 137:8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy [shall he be], that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.
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Psa 137:9 Happy [shall he be], that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.


Psalm 137:1 "By the rivers of Babylon, there we sat down and wept, when we remembered Zion. 2. Upon the willows in the midst of it we hung our harps. 3. For there our captors demanded of us songs, and our tormentors, mirth, saying "Sing us one of the songs of Zion." 4. How can we sing the Lord's song in a foreign land! 5. If I forget you, O Jerusalem, may my right hand wither. 6. May my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth if I do not remember you, if I do not exalt Jerusalem above my chief joy. 7. Remember, O Lord. against the sons of Edom the day of Jerusalem, who said, "Raze it, raze it, to its very foundation." 8. O daughter of Babylon, you devastated one, how blessed will be the one who repays you with the recompense with which you have repaid us. 9. How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones against the rock.


Happy shall he be

that taketh and

dasheth THY little

one against the stones.

sounds like he don't

like the Babylons

much.

Is that the

point here?

Did I miss

the point?

(:X
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Did I miss

the point?

Really.

I'm not very

smart actually.

So I might have

missed the point.

probably miss

alot of points.

never was very

good at points.

or smart either.

but I am

Ugly.

no one

argues

with that.

(:X
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From: FHL(C) Add to Buddy List Block
Subject: Hi
Date: 2007-08-07 11:36:50

Hello,

i would like to converse with you by email, with the agreement that we never use one another's emails publically without permission from the other. If you can agree to this , say yes and i will PM my email.
I will tell you why, you have done some things in the last 24 hours to try and make me bend to(from your point of view) will, from my point of view, what you have done has repercussions you will never forget, please read psalm 94 to try and understand why, from my point of view,
sincerely

Justin
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NO I DO NOT WANT TO EMAIL YOU

I WANT YOU TO ANSWER ME RIGHT HERE ON THIS FORUM!



Ah tl, now your true colors really stand out, not only cant you be trusted, but you cant trust. A sad thing, but understandable in one whose deceit, lies, half truths, abominable practices and vain conjectures are coming home to roost.
You dont want to be a gentleman, fine, helel was never a gentleman(satan, the devil, lucifer etc, the one you title yourself after), YAH rebuke thee helel, and then, great, Psalm 94 it is then for you tl and more , Amen YHVH/Father.

no, Im not a gentleman...I wont defend your sick fucking religion

you first slander me and call me names- then when you cant answer my questions
you try to email me to be my buddy

Im wise to the christian bullshit scheme


i want you and your kind to STFU for good
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Apart from the fact that shows what you are really like , and what your real agenda is tl, sending a pm, doesn't mean i have put you on my buddy list, lol.
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O, and before i decide to start answering your deceit,

deceit? this is YOUR BIBLE SCRIPTURE

not taken out of context


I POSTED THREE SCRIPTURES..........ALL HUMAN SLAUGHTER........CHILDREN, INFANTS

STOP SIDE STEPPING- ANSWER IT YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPERS! :)
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I don't understand all the blood sacrifice, orders to exterminate from God stuff either. I've looked into Christianity but it is too violent a religion for me.
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Psalm 137:9-"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones".

god of love, eh?

you got some explaining to do, jehovahites!

please.........tell me how your god is love when your god says 'happy is the man who smashes children's skulls open upon the rocks.....

c`mon, tell me :)

TELL ME!
 Quoting: Tommy.Luciferi


This is speaking of the Babylonians. They were unspeakably cruel to God's chosen people, They desecrated the temple of God as they carried the people away as captives.

In order to understand this you have to understand God's ways. In a very real sense it was more merciful for God to kill the young children who are automatically safe in Christ, then to let these children grow as pagan adults.

See, people who hold human life so high will never understand what it means. The point is, being a human is a gift yes, but after this is beyond measure.

In many ways I wish I was one if these Babylonian children. To be found blameless is an unreachable goal for me, I only pray that I may be of good company in my Creators eyes.
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O, and before i decide to start answering your deceit,

deceit? this is YOUR BIBLE SCRIPTURE

not taken out of context


I POSTED THREE SCRIPTURES..........ALL HUMAN SLAUGHTER........CHILDREN, INFANTS

STOP SIDE STEPPING- ANSWER IT YOU DEVIL WORSHIPPERS! :)


I don't understand all the blood sacrifice, orders to exterminate from God stuff either. I've looked into Christianity but it is too violent a religion for me.
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thats your excuse to avoid God(who alone is Love and the source of all love and goodness), so to be shown what sinful man has gotten up to and how God has had to deal with it upsets you, still wont be an excuse that you can use when you give account for your life and rejection of His Son/Him.
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David sacrificed seven sons of Saul to stop famine

There was a famine during the regime of king David for three consecutive years. David enquired of the Lord regarding the cause of famine. The Lord answered that none but Saul was responsible for famine, because it was he who slew the Gibeonites. The king David handed over seven children of Saul into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them on the hill before the Lord…… Thereafter God stopped famine and bestowed bliss on the land. In this connection, the readers are requested to peruse all the fourteen verses of chapter 21 of II Samuel. Here I am presenting only three verses as under :

Then there was a famine in the days of David three years, year after year; and David inquired of the Lord. And the Lord answered, It is for Saul, and for his bloody house, because he slew the Gibeonites.”
- II Samuel, 21/1

Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the Lord in Gibeah of Saul, whom the Lord did choose. And the king said, I will give them.”
- II Samuel, 21/6

And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites and they hanged them in the hill before the Lord; and they fell all seven together, and were put to death in the days of harvest, in the first days, in the beginning of barley harvest.”
- II Samuel, 21/9

Here a question arises : What offence did seven innocent children commit that they-were hanged together ? Was it justified to put them to death to stop famine ?
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What does death mean to you? Are you atheist? Does death lead to nothing? Then I could see why you would think this was such a bad thing. There is something much greater after death.
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In my opinion it was matter of eternal perspective. Infants would have had little hope of growing to become Godly men and women if they were outside the fold of Israel. It is horrific what happened, but we also have to look behind the veil to see that all the babies were under the age of consent, or "knowledge of sin", and were eligible for Heaven, whereas had they lived, they would have most likely been corrupted as a result of not being accepted. Everyone is going to make this verse what they want to, and rather than dance around it or tell you how bad you are Tommy, I would rather answer you directly with my opinion that I believe to be right. I don't pretend to understand the motivations of God, but then again, what right do I have. My heart is infinitely wicked, I am fortunate to know any of His mysteries at all.
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that's funny many people feel the same way about abortion, do you?





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