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ChvyV8Bldr
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So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
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Do English people make better buildings?
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Because it didn't get hit by a fucking jet hard enough to blow the protective concrete off the steel structure that melted due to thousands of gallons of jet fuel and debris that weakened said steel, to the point of structural failure, therefore succumbing to collapse of the floors above, hence falling the building. That's why.
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And we're Americans not English you double fucking nimrod.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you , including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!

"To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots"
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Is it a private company? If it's funded by the government their rights are being violated if no know acts of violence have happen..,by the way who told them there was a firearm?
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
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sounds like fucking communist shit never give up your fucking rights!


“They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety."

- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759




"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.
Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.
Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it
but downright force. Whenever you give up
that force, you are ruined....
The great object is that every man be armed.
Everyone who is able might have a gun."


- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778
Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you , including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!

"To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots"
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
then lie
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So it's cool if I have a bunch of swords, maces a torture rack and a slightly used Iron Maiden?
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So it's cool if I have a bunch of swords, maces a torture rack and a slightly used Iron Maiden?
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You seem too indulged.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
It's because they are afraid of getting caught dehydrating and murdering your loved one that you might shoot them.

The Terri Shavo verdict made all this possible.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


Pretty sure he did. He's old school.
Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me
Kingdoms were run by kings
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Countries are run by.....

I'm not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I want to do what’s right for the country — not what’s good for special interest groups that contribute, not what’s good for the lobbyists and the donors.” Donald Trump for president.

Trump 2020


Quote from Anonymous Legend (AC)75077345
Do English people make better buildings?
My response;
Chvyv8bldr
Because it didn't get hit by a fucking jet hard enough to blow the protective concrete off the steel structure that melted due to thousands of gallons of jet fuel and debris that weakened said steel, to the point of structural failure, therefore succumbing to collapse of the floors above, hence falling the building. That's why.
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And we're Americans not English you double fucking nimrod.
rewind
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So it's cool if I have a bunch of swords, maces a torture rack and a slightly used Iron Maiden?
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pretty sure the iron maiden will be used up most likely

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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


Pretty sure he did. He's old school.
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There nothing but MURDERERS THAT LIKE TO PLAY GOD.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
It's because they are afraid of getting caught dehydrating and murdering your loved one that you might shoot them.

The Terri Shavo verdict made all this possible.
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Exactly why. There scared shitless cause their MURDERERS.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


Pretty sure he did. He's old school.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s.
Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me
Kingdoms were run by kings
Empires were run by Emperors
Countries are run by.....

I'm not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I want to do what’s right for the country — not what’s good for special interest groups that contribute, not what’s good for the lobbyists and the donors.” Donald Trump for president.

Trump 2020


Quote from Anonymous Legend (AC)75077345
Do English people make better buildings?
My response;
Chvyv8bldr
Because it didn't get hit by a fucking jet hard enough to blow the protective concrete off the steel structure that melted due to thousands of gallons of jet fuel and debris that weakened said steel, to the point of structural failure, therefore succumbing to collapse of the floors above, hence falling the building. That's why.
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And we're Americans not English you double fucking nimrod.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


Pretty sure he did. He's old school.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


They call it weapons but really they are just stealing car parts.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
They didn't even ask about guns when my Mother came here to live and was on Hospice. I wouldn't have gotten rid of mine.
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Anyone who challenges their control is deemed a sexist, a racist, a xenophobe and morally deformed , they will attack you they will slander you, they will seek to destroy your career and your family, they will seek to destroy everything about you , including your reputation they will lie lie lie, they will do whatever is necessary!

"To destroy a people, you must first sever their roots"
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
It's because they are afraid of getting caught dehydrating and murdering your loved one that you might shoot them.

The Terri Shavo verdict made all this possible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784



Exactly why. There scared shitless cause their MURDERERS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784


Maybe they are when they are done with you.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
AS the poster above posted, they are there to finish you off.

When the medical leeches bilk the last dollars from your life of working, they send in the killers to "keep you comfortable" then overdose you on morphine before you start costing them money.

The Government/medical freaks are fine with killing the unborn and they have the same treatment for you when you are old, after they get their cash out of you, of course.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
So no details on how hospice:

1- finds out that you own firearms

2- enforces their seizure from your possession

3- verifies that no firearms are present afterwards...


I'm calling BULLSHIT.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
So no details on how hospice:

1- finds out that you own firearms

2- enforces their seizure from your possession

3- verifies that no firearms are present afterwards...


I'm calling BULLSHIT.
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I'm sure somebody has these answers. I however do not.
Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me
Kingdoms were run by kings
Empires were run by Emperors
Countries are run by.....

I'm not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I want to do what’s right for the country — not what’s good for special interest groups that contribute, not what’s good for the lobbyists and the donors.” Donald Trump for president.

Trump 2020


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Do English people make better buildings?
My response;
Chvyv8bldr
Because it didn't get hit by a fucking jet hard enough to blow the protective concrete off the steel structure that melted due to thousands of gallons of jet fuel and debris that weakened said steel, to the point of structural failure, therefore succumbing to collapse of the floors above, hence falling the building. That's why.
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And we're Americans not English you double fucking nimrod.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
Well that's not very hospitable.


I would go.

Hire me.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
So no details on how hospice:

1- finds out that you own firearms

2- enforces their seizure from your possession

3- verifies that no firearms are present afterwards...


I'm calling BULLSHIT.
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Here's you calling bullshit.

According to 2014 statistics, 59% of the almost 1,700,000 hospice patients in the United States were treated at their place of residence by hospice staff. A residence includes nursing homes, residential facilities, and the estimated 600,000 living at “home sweet home.” (Those not in private residences were served in a hospice-owned facility or acute care hospital.)

Based on a recent Pew Research study, 37% of American households have at least one person who owns a gun. Pew agrees with other studies that there are likely 300,000,000 guns in the United States, or the equivalent to “one firearm for every man, woman and child.” Pew’s report continues with, “But in point of fact, only a minority of Americans own guns.”

Obviously, many hospice staff will be welcomed into private homes. Equally obviously, the staff never knows by simply looking if this is a household with firearms.

The hospice where I work (and I suspect this is the case with all hospices) requests that either guns are removed from the home or that they are clearly locked and . . . safe.

We won’t care for a patient without this reassurance.

Since many don’t own guns, the hospice question will be easily addressed by them. For gun owners, the majority quickly comply. A daughter takes her father’s shooting range pistol to her place. The family already has the weapons in a secure cabinet or vault designed for firearms. The spouse purchases a simple locking mechanism for the hunting rifle and stores the ammunition in a separate location. Complying with hospice’s request is cheap and simple.

Only a very few hospice patients or families disagree when the gun question is asked.

The resistance is rarely a second amendment debate (the right to keep and bear arms), but more of a you-can’t-tell-me-what-to-do cry for independence. Along with the other emotions individuals and families experience when entering hospice, they don’t want to lose control of the significant, or insignificant, parts of their once normal life.

Why does hospice ask the question?

We want the patient to be safe and not have a gun to use for suicide or threats.We want the family to be safe and not have to worry about any accident.We want the visiting medical staff to be safe, not threatened by a frightened patient or a random bullet from an accident or suicide attempt.

Whether suicidal, homicidal, or accidental, guns represent a different threat than other weapons (scissors, knives, the Marathon Man’s dental tools, shovels, etc.) in the home. Once a bullet leaves the barrel, it can easily penetrate walls, windows, and flesh. Bullets can strike objects across the street or across town. A bullet from a .22 rifle travels upwards of a mile. A shot from a .38 pistol will traverse the length of two football fields in less than a second.

But nothing bad will ever happen!

The patient is bedbound and can’t go to the bathroom by herself. The patient is medicated and barely communicates. Cancer wrecked his body and the patient can’t even eat unless someone feeds him.

All true, and not true.
Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me
Kingdoms were run by kings
Empires were run by Emperors
Countries are run by.....

I'm not in the gang. I’m not in the group where the group does whatever it’s supposed to do,” he said. “I want to do what’s right for the country — not what’s good for special interest groups that contribute, not what’s good for the lobbyists and the donors.” Donald Trump for president.

Trump 2020


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Do English people make better buildings?
My response;
Chvyv8bldr
Because it didn't get hit by a fucking jet hard enough to blow the protective concrete off the steel structure that melted due to thousands of gallons of jet fuel and debris that weakened said steel, to the point of structural failure, therefore succumbing to collapse of the floors above, hence falling the building. That's why.
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And we're Americans not English you double fucking nimrod.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
Wait a minute...

I just remembered something.

About 6 years ago I was licensed for a home daycare up to 8 children.

They had to do a home inspection and if there were firearms in the house the needed to see them.

Which I did.

But I was still able to get a licence and this was San Diego CA.

So its ok to have guns in a home daycare of children but not in hospice for an dying adult?

That makes no damn sense.

I just had to keep my guns unloaded and locked up.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
seems believable to me that they would intrude like this

healthcare is not what it used to be

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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
A little over 2 years ago I was involved in getting my friends mother and then a year later her father signed up with hospice care in their homes. A question regarding firearms was not asked during their admission process. A gun wasn't visible in the home either.

I have noticed over the past several years doctors offices asking if there is a gun in the home and if it is locked up properly. These questions regarding guns were written into the Obamacare legislation. Doctors now ask ridiculous questions like do you feel safe in your home. They are required to ask very intrusive questions.
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Keep on blabbing People.

Try shutting your mouths.
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Time to boycott.
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if you got firearms then why the fuck do you need hospice?
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The Government/medical freaks are fine with killing the unborn and they have the same treatment for you when you are old, after they get their cash out of you, of course.
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Watching old people transform form respected members of the society to pieces of meat...they didn't even tell my mom when they transferred my dad to the nursing home. She was in the same hospital, with people they had both known all their lives...

But once you are old and sick you are just prey.
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OP I think you or they should talk to the nearby gun shop about it and they can take possession and clean them up maybe some upgrades!

Hospice just did it last month for my father in law at my home! They did survey the home, I had to add a smoke detector, They interviewed my mother in law, But she would not know about firearms in the house, other than I and my son carry.
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Re: So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there...
My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc.
Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home.

Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"?
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


How would they know?

did some one snitch on them self's?
 Quoting: Q33


Pretty sure he did. He's old school.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s.
 Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr


He can just lend them to a friend or relative, no need to give to "authorities."





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