So hospice won't go into your home if there's firearms there... | |
Q33 User ID: 78187044 Canada 12/28/2019 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? |
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Q33 User ID: 78187044 Canada 12/28/2019 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? sounds like fucking communist shit never give up your fucking rights! “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759 "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." - Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778 |
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ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 75825237 United States 12/28/2019 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? Pretty sure he did. He's old school. Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
rewind Militant Bitch User ID: 46669349 United States 12/28/2019 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So it's cool if I have a bunch of swords, maces a torture rack and a slightly used Iron Maiden? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71611133 pretty sure the iron maiden will be used up most likely Last Edited by rewind on 12/28/2019 04:34 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78277784 United States 12/28/2019 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? Pretty sure he did. He's old school. There nothing but MURDERERS THAT LIKE TO PLAY GOD. |
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ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 75825237 United States 12/28/2019 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? Pretty sure he did. He's old school. My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s. Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78278713 Sweden 12/28/2019 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? Pretty sure he did. He's old school. My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s. They call it weapons but really they are just stealing car parts. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78278713 Sweden 12/28/2019 05:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's because they are afraid of getting caught dehydrating and murdering your loved one that you might shoot them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 The Terri Shavo verdict made all this possible. Exactly why. There scared shitless cause their MURDERERS. Maybe they are when they are done with you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 12/28/2019 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AS the poster above posted, they are there to finish you off. When the medical leeches bilk the last dollars from your life of working, they send in the killers to "keep you comfortable" then overdose you on morphine before you start costing them money. The Government/medical freaks are fine with killing the unborn and they have the same treatment for you when you are old, after they get their cash out of you, of course. |
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ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 75825237 United States 12/29/2019 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So no details on how hospice: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277555 1- finds out that you own firearms 2- enforces their seizure from your possession 3- verifies that no firearms are present afterwards... I'm calling BULLSHIT. I'm sure somebody has these answers. I however do not. Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
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ChvyV8Bldr (OP) User ID: 75825237 United States 12/29/2019 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So no details on how hospice: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277555 1- finds out that you own firearms 2- enforces their seizure from your possession 3- verifies that no firearms are present afterwards... I'm calling BULLSHIT. Here's you calling bullshit. According to 2014 statistics, 59% of the almost 1,700,000 hospice patients in the United States were treated at their place of residence by hospice staff. A residence includes nursing homes, residential facilities, and the estimated 600,000 living at “home sweet home.” (Those not in private residences were served in a hospice-owned facility or acute care hospital.) Based on a recent Pew Research study, 37% of American households have at least one person who owns a gun. Pew agrees with other studies that there are likely 300,000,000 guns in the United States, or the equivalent to “one firearm for every man, woman and child.” Pew’s report continues with, “But in point of fact, only a minority of Americans own guns.” Obviously, many hospice staff will be welcomed into private homes. Equally obviously, the staff never knows by simply looking if this is a household with firearms. The hospice where I work (and I suspect this is the case with all hospices) requests that either guns are removed from the home or that they are clearly locked and . . . safe. We won’t care for a patient without this reassurance. Since many don’t own guns, the hospice question will be easily addressed by them. For gun owners, the majority quickly comply. A daughter takes her father’s shooting range pistol to her place. The family already has the weapons in a secure cabinet or vault designed for firearms. The spouse purchases a simple locking mechanism for the hunting rifle and stores the ammunition in a separate location. Complying with hospice’s request is cheap and simple. Only a very few hospice patients or families disagree when the gun question is asked. The resistance is rarely a second amendment debate (the right to keep and bear arms), but more of a you-can’t-tell-me-what-to-do cry for independence. Along with the other emotions individuals and families experience when entering hospice, they don’t want to lose control of the significant, or insignificant, parts of their once normal life. Why does hospice ask the question? We want the patient to be safe and not have a gun to use for suicide or threats.We want the family to be safe and not have to worry about any accident.We want the visiting medical staff to be safe, not threatened by a frightened patient or a random bullet from an accident or suicide attempt. Whether suicidal, homicidal, or accidental, guns represent a different threat than other weapons (scissors, knives, the Marathon Man’s dental tools, shovels, etc.) in the home. Once a bullet leaves the barrel, it can easily penetrate walls, windows, and flesh. Bullets can strike objects across the street or across town. A bullet from a .22 rifle travels upwards of a mile. A shot from a .38 pistol will traverse the length of two football fields in less than a second. But nothing bad will ever happen! The patient is bedbound and can’t go to the bathroom by herself. The patient is medicated and barely communicates. Cancer wrecked his body and the patient can’t even eat unless someone feeds him. All true, and not true. Will we even know we were alive when we're dead? Me Kingdoms were run by kings Empires were run by Emperors Countries are run by..... Dumps were almost fixed by Trump |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77582250 United States 12/29/2019 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wait a minute... I just remembered something. About 6 years ago I was licensed for a home daycare up to 8 children. They had to do a home inspection and if there were firearms in the house the needed to see them. Which I did. But I was still able to get a licence and this was San Diego CA. So its ok to have guns in a home daycare of children but not in hospice for an dying adult? That makes no damn sense. I just had to keep my guns unloaded and locked up. |
beeches User ID: 77354011 United States 01/20/2020 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | seems believable to me that they would intrude like this healthcare is not what it used to be Last Edited by beeches on 01/20/2020 05:19 PM Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face – Thomas Sowell |
akasuzanne User ID: 78185358 United States 01/20/2020 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A little over 2 years ago I was involved in getting my friends mother and then a year later her father signed up with hospice care in their homes. A question regarding firearms was not asked during their admission process. A gun wasn't visible in the home either. I have noticed over the past several years doctors offices asking if there is a gun in the home and if it is locked up properly. These questions regarding guns were written into the Obamacare legislation. Doctors now ask ridiculous questions like do you feel safe in your home. They are required to ask very intrusive questions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77743250 United States 01/20/2020 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Government/medical freaks are fine with killing the unborn and they have the same treatment for you when you are old, after they get their cash out of you, of course. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 Watching old people transform form respected members of the society to pieces of meat...they didn't even tell my mom when they transferred my dad to the nursing home. She was in the same hospital, with people they had both known all their lives... But once you are old and sick you are just prey. |
sandman1 User ID: 77035745 United States 01/20/2020 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I think you or they should talk to the nearby gun shop about it and they can take possession and clean them up maybe some upgrades! Hospice just did it last month for my father in law at my home! They did survey the home, I had to add a smoke detector, They interviewed my mother in law, But she would not know about firearms in the house, other than I and my son carry. sandman |
Weyoun User ID: 77989510 United States 01/20/2020 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? My mom's best friend after 54 years needs hospice care after cancer etc. Quoting: ChvyV8Bldr Her husband refused to remove his guns from his home & sent his wife to die at their daughters home. Have you heard of this before? Would the police give you your arms back if they were to remove them "for safety"? How would they know? did some one snitch on them self's? Pretty sure he did. He's old school. My question is would the "authorities" return his weapons (had he given them up) back to him? He is in his 80s. He can just lend them to a friend or relative, no need to give to "authorities." |