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French Bank Freezes Funds?? What is the impact??

 
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Can some of the economy gurus floating around here explain the implications of this???

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Aug. 9 (Bloomberg) -- BNP Paribas SA, France's biggest bank, halted withdrawals from three investment funds because it couldn't ``fairly'' value their holdings after U.S. subprime mortgage losses roiled credit markets.

The funds had about 1.6 billion euros ($2.2 billion) of assets on Aug. 7, after declining 20 percent in less than two weeks, spokesman Jonathan Mullen said today. The bank will stop calculating a net asset value for the funds, which have about a third of their money in subprime securities rated AA or higher.

BNP's announcement sent its shares down as much as 5.5 percent, pulled the benchmark European stock index lower by more than 2 percent, and helped U.S. Treasuries rally for the first time in four days. Investors are shunning bonds backed by home loans after late mortgage payments by borrowers with poor credit histories rose to the highest since 2002.

``The complete evaporation of liquidity in certain market segments of the U.S. securitization market has made it impossible to value certain assets fairly regardless of their quality or credit rating,'' BNP Paribas said in a statement.

The French bank joins Bear Stearns Cos. and Union Investment Management GmbH in stopping fund redemptions. Dutch investment bank NIBC Holding NV said today that it lost at least 137 million euros on U.S. subprime investments this year.

BNP Paribas shares were 4.52 euros, or 5.3 percent, lower at 80.93 euros by 2:47 p.m. in Paris, valuing the bank at 75.8 billion euros. The stock is down 2 percent this year.

Losing Value

Global stock indexes gained over the past three days, lifting the MSCI World Index of shares in developed countries by 3.1 percent, as concern over the subprime meltdown eased.

Chief Executive Officer Baudouin Prot said the bank's exposure to U.S. subprime was ``absolutely negligible'' when the company reported a 20 percent increase in second-quarter net income last week. BNP Paribas Investment Partners oversees about 356 billion euros.

``On BNP's scale this isn't too significant,'' said Benoit de Broissia, an analyst at Richelieu Finance in Paris. ``It will impact clients. It's more of an image problem.''

The three funds are Parvest Dynamic ABS, BNP Paribas ABS Euribor and BNP Paribas ABS Eonia.

The Hague-based NIBC, which is owned by a group including J.C. Flowers & Co., said ``severe instability'' in U.S. credit markets reduced the value of its U.S. asset-backed securities. The company expects ``further mark-to-market losses.''

`No Prices'

Union Investment, Germany's third-biggest mutual fund manager, stopped withdrawals from one of its funds on Aug. 3 after investors pulled about 10 percent of the assets. Frankfurt Trust, the mutual fund manager of Germany's BHF-Bank, halted redemptions from a fund after clients removed 20 percent of their money since the end of July.

Two hedge funds run by New York-based Bear Stearns filed for bankruptcy protection in the Cayman Islands on July 31 following subprime losses. The New York-based securities firm then blocked investors from withdrawing money from a third fund.

``For some of the securities there are just no prices,'' Alain Papiasse, head of BNP Paribas's asset management and services division, said in an interview. ``As there are no prices, we can't calculate the value of the funds.''

Blocking investors from withdrawals ``was a very good decision because it avoids huge redemptions,'' said Jean-Edouard Reymond, who helps manage $63 billion at Union Bancaire Gestion Institutionelle SA in Paris. ``If they had had redemptions they would have been obliged to sell the securities they might have in their portfolio at very cheap market prices.''

Reymond doesn't hold any BNP Paribas stock, he said.

The funds had assets valued at about 2 billion euros on July 27, with 700 million euros in subprime-related investments.

To contact the reporter on this story: Sebastian Boyd in London
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08/09/2007 10:11 AM
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Down she comes in firey sparks
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08/09/2007 10:15 AM
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Re: French Bank Freezes Funds?? What is the impact??
Yes, but EZB (European Central Bank) pumps 100 milliards euro (in US value: 100 billion euro) into the market.
Easy liquidity for tumbling banksters.


It is 1,5 more than just after the 9/11 !!!!

Sure, hard time ! the 12/11/2001 it was 64 milliards euro, never seen before and now 1,5 more !!!

So, what could we think ?
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08/09/2007 10:17 AM
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Re: French Bank Freezes Funds?? What is the impact??
Please, what do you think about that above ?
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08/09/2007 10:19 AM
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PIN THIS
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08/09/2007 10:20 AM
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08/09/2007 10:21 AM
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wtf
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08/09/2007 10:22 AM
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The impact is doom
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08/09/2007 10:23 AM
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Do you think there will be a run on the banks?
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08/09/2007 10:28 AM
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Re: French Bank Freezes Funds?? What is the impact??
here a link in French

[link to www.latribune.fr]

"Panique sur les Bourses et marchés monétaires. La Banque centrale européenne (BCE) a injecté ce jeudi 94,8 milliards d'euros dans le circuit monétaire de la zone euro via un appel d'offre rapide pour compenser des mouvements inattendus sur le marché liés à la crise du crédit à risques, le "subprime". C'est la plus forte injection de liquidités depuis le 11 septembre 2001. Le lendemain de l'attentat du World Trade Center, la BCE avait versé 69,3 milliards d'euros sur le marché bancaire puis 40,5 milliards le 13 septembre." .......


translation :

"Panics on the Stock Exchanges and money markets. The European central Bank (ECB) injected this Thursday 94,8 billion euros in the monetary circuit of the zone euro via a fast invitation to tender to compensate for unexpected movements on the market related to the crisis of the credit at the risks, the "subprime". It is the strongest injection of liquidities since September 11, 2001. The following day of the attack of World Trade Center, the ECB had poured 69,3 billion euros on the banking market then 40,5 billion on September 13."
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