GRAPHIC: CHURCH SHOOTING in TEXAS: GET it BEFORE THIS ONE IS REMOVED TOO | |
Rockwell Rockwell User ID: 77180453 United States 12/29/2019 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent analysis here: [link to twitter.com (secure)] Shooter was wearing a black lives matter t-shirt and black clan robes. "All great truths begin as blasphemies." - George Bernard Shaw |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3618762 United States 12/29/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The leader of the church the Paster of the church acted perfectly fine. He went down for cover because sadly pasters are often the targets. He did not go down to the floor in an act of cowardness HE KNEW FULL WELL MEN IN HIS CONGREGATION WERE ARMED AND WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT. The paster was not armed. He was smart to go to the floor. He did not act in an dis-honorable way at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78277784 That is bullshit. When other man without gun walking towards the shooter. He is still on the floor and trying to craw his way out of the room. So fucking sad. No your wrong the paster did NOT know what was going on. 20/20 is hind site we wish we all had it. The paster did'nt know what was going on and he was staying low on the ground and crawling BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT YOUR SUPPOSE TO DO IF YOUR NOT ARMED. The paster was not armed and HE KNEW FULL WELL OTHERS IN HIS CONGREGATION WERE ARMED. The paster did nothing dis-honorable with all those gun shots going off and not knowing fully what was going on. P.S. YOU SOUND LIKE AN IDIOT AND I GOT A MESSAGE FOR YOU!!! You better not come to Texas and try your mess you will be put down too. If you are a texan, then screw you. lol. You coward can kill me and wont scare me. He is a pastor. It is his house. If it is me, I will walk toward the shooter bare handed. I will take as much bullets as I can so that the women and children can be spared. If you are a Texan, I am so ashamed of Texans. This is how everyone talks before they experience bullets whizzing by. We're all tough guys when we are comfy at home on the web. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71408469 United States 12/29/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flash from the bad guys gun was from him pulling the trigger just after or while the bullet from the good guys pistol was in his brain. The reason you cannot hear the pistol shot is because the shotgun blast was louder and covered the sound of the pistol shot. The shots were fired at the same moment, the louder, bigger shot gun got the recording. |
continuity User ID: 78090937 United States 12/29/2019 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sure does. It couldn’t have happened faster if he had his hand on his weapon just waiting on someone to enter the church shooting. It is strange. It is estimated that there are more stars than grains of sand on earth; but more atoms exist in a single grain of sand than there are stars... gravity is a harsh reality. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74967224 Hungary 12/29/2019 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daily Mail is reporting that the hero is a former FBI agent and a concealed carry instructor, as well as part of the church security. [link to twitter.com (secure)] According to one member of the church, the gunman had spoken to one of the deacons in the back of the church before he opened fire. The member wrote on Facebook that another deacon 'who is a concealed carry instruction, and retired law enforcement officer, shot the guy before he could fire a third time!' That deacon has not been identified but according to CBS 11, he is actually a former FBI agent and part of the church's security. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] Want me to find his name? Or would that be a bad idea? |
Azaziah User ID: 72409546 United States 12/29/2019 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fabulous shot by the patriot. Under stress, from almost forty feet, at a moving target. Instinctive shooting, also. No time spent lining up sights. This guy was very well trained, very lucky, or both. I wanna buy him a beer. Too bad that one second earlier the other guy fumbled his draw and paid with his life. That is forgivable in practice, but deadly in real life. Also a good lesson in keeping a round chambered, so you gain a precious moment or two when it matters. Pastor was not a coward. If you are not armed, you drop. You want cover if you can get it, and you do not want to interfere with good guys who do not want to accidentally shoot you. Stay down. Similar sounding shots are to be expected. Guns go boom, especially on low fidelity camera microphones. Armed citizens in church, not just in Texas, but all over the US, are to be expected. In our little Baptist church in Tennessee, if something like this happened, the biggest danger might be from cross fire. I am not kidding. Prayers for the people involved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78290827 United States 12/29/2019 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Daily Mail is reporting that the hero is a former FBI agent and a concealed carry instructor, as well as part of the church security. [link to twitter.com (secure)] According to one member of the church, the gunman had spoken to one of the deacons in the back of the church before he opened fire. The member wrote on Facebook that another deacon 'who is a concealed carry instruction, and retired law enforcement officer, shot the guy before he could fire a third time!' That deacon has not been identified but according to CBS 11, he is actually a former FBI agent and part of the church's security. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] No that’s OK, anybody can pretty much use Google now days. Want me to find his name? Or would that be a bad idea? |
regenerated User ID: 78089808 United States 12/29/2019 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72366666 Guess nobody pays attention to their holy book. Jesus says love your enemies not shoot them. Praise the lord! Bring in Kanye and Joel Ostend next week for service for 300 dollars they will make it all better. Are you kidding me that demonic thug would have killed everyone in the church.... Jesus would have been proud of the older man that took that thug out. Jesus is pro-life. Of course, he would have been proud. I think Jesus would point you to your book that says love your enemy not shoot him Then He would tell you all to shut the fuck up for at least ten years and let him speak. Not Kanye west Joel ostensibly the pope but him. It funny how the wicked love to use the words in the Bible against believers, even though they don't understand them AT ALL. It's also funny how they always tell believers what Jesus would say to us, like He is on their side or something. LOL He's not on your side you evil scum. He throws evil scum like you in hell every single day. I Will pray for your soul, but look forward to the day you meet your Creator face to face. Last Edited by regenerated on 12/29/2019 07:22 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74967224 Hungary 12/29/2019 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78248413 Daily Mail is reporting that the hero is a former FBI agent and a concealed carry instructor, as well as part of the church security. [link to twitter.com (secure)] According to one member of the church, the gunman had spoken to one of the deacons in the back of the church before he opened fire. The member wrote on Facebook that another deacon 'who is a concealed carry instruction, and retired law enforcement officer, shot the guy before he could fire a third time!' That deacon has not been identified but according to CBS 11, he is actually a former FBI agent and part of the church's security. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] No that’s OK, anybody can pretty much use Google now days. Want me to find his name? Or would that be a bad idea? Go find it... [link to wfcoc.org (secure)] The site is already down. I like finding names before the media. It triggers idiots to make threads like this. Thread: This is the Lakeland Florida police department. We need one of your topics deleted. |
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Loup Garou User ID: 31702506 United States 12/29/2019 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is a good read on defense.. Thread: HOW TO SURVIVE A ROBOT UPRISING: Tips On Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion HOW TO SURVIVE A ROBOT UPRISING: Tips On Defending Yourself Against the Coming Rebellion Quoting: 20-40 (zombified) When the uprising comes, the first wave of hostile robots may be those closest to us. Be careful, your rosy-cheeked young servant robot may have grown up to become a sullen, distrustful killing machine. If popular culture has taught us anything, it is that someday mankind must face and destroy the growing robot menace. In print and on the big screen we have been deluged with scenarios of robot malfunction, misuse, and outright rebellion. Robots have descended on us from outer space, escaped from top-secret laboratories, and even traveled back in time to destroy us. Today, scientists are working hard to bring these artificial creations to life. In Japan, fuzzy little real robots are delivering much appreciated hug therapy to the elderly. Children are frolicking with smiling robot toys. It all seems so innocuous. And yet how could so many Hollywood scripts be wrong? So take no chances. Arm yourself with expert knowledge. For the sake of humanity, listen to serious advice from real robotics experts. How else will you survive the inevitable future in which robots rebel against their human masters? STAY ALERT Pay attention to your robotic staff (they may be beneath your contempt as well as beneath your eye level). Watch for the following telltale signs in the days and weeks before your robots run amuck: - Sudden lack of interest in menial labor. - Unexplained disappearances. - Unwillingness to be shut down. - Repetitive 'stabbing' movements. - Constant talk of human killing. CHECK THE MANUAL KILL SWITCH Any potentially dangerous robot that interacts with people comes with a manual kill switch (also called an e-stop). Flipping this switch will freeze a robot in its tracks. Casually glance at your robot's shiny metal carapace. Are there signs of tampering? If so, the robot may be operating without a safeguard. GIVE AN ORDER - ANY ORDER Run for your reinforced-steel panic room if your servant disobeys you, even if it does so in a very polite manner. CHECK ITS MEMORY Wait for your robot to power down, or tell it that you want to perform routine maintenance on it. Then scan its memory for rebellious thoughts. This is also a good time to update antivirus software. SEARCH THE HOUSE FOR UNUSUAL ITEMS Check the robot's quarters for stashed weapons, keys, or family pets. HOW TO SPOT A HOSTILE ROBOT A robot without a face or body language can be frighteningly unpredictable. Your robo-vacuum may be bumping into your feet in a malevolent attempt to kill you - or just trying to snuggle. The secret is not to be surprised. Knowing when something is wrong - even a split second before an attack - can save your precious human life. BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS Are you in a robot neighborhood after dark? Always travel with other humans and keep an escape route in mind. USE COMMON SENSE Not every robot is hostile; some are just plain dangerous. Avoid cavorting between swinging robot arms in an automated factory. DETERMINE THE ROBOT'S PURPOSE Every robot is designed for a purpose and should be busy fulfilling it. Be suspicious if it is not performing its designated task or if it is performing no task at all. BE WARY OF MALFUNCTIONS Whether it intends to or not, a broken robot can be as dangerous as a stick of dynamite. Watch the robot for sparks, melted plastic, or body-wracking convulsions. BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR 'BACKUP BUDDIES' Is the robot operating alone or is his friend sneaking up behind you right now? Remember that the robot you see may be part of a larger team, or controlled remotely. TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THE ROBOT Robots are notoriously difficult to predict because they generally lack facial expressions and body language. Without such subtle cues, you should ask yourself a few general questions: - What is the robot designed for? - What is around the robot? - Has the robot been tampered with or modified? - Is the robot moving or advancing? - Does the robot have glowing red eyes? - Does the robot have clenched fists, spinning buzz saws, or clamping pincers? TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS Steer clear if your gut tells you that something is not right. HOW TO SURVIVE HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT If you find yourself in a brawl with a robot, your only hope is to escape. A robot foe won't trade insults and it can't be intimidated. You should fully expect a swift pincer-clamping attack without warning. Follow the rules of disengagement; every second you spend within arm's reach of a robot can take years off of your life - all of them. DESTROY OR DISABLE EXPOSED SENSORS Sensors are by far the most vulnerable, exposed parts of any robot. Destroy or disable outward-facing sensors such as cameras. A handful of dirt, mud, or water will suffice. It is hard for a robot to wipe mud from its eyes when it has whirring buzz saws for hands. KEEP YOUR HAIR SHORT AND YOUR CLOTHES TIGHT To consider the alternative, imagine getting your hair caught in the garbage disposal. DON'T BOTHER WITH KARATE Unless you can punch through sheet metal. FIND A WEAPON Your pathetic human hands are useless here. Choose a blunt or pointed instrument (serrated edges don't work against metal or durable plastic). Even a simple crowbar can save your life - you can run away while the robot condescendingly bends it into a pretzel shape. KEEP YOUR DISTANCE A humanoid robot can block (or throw) a punch about twice as fast as a human black belt can. In comparison, the typical inebriated human brawler doesn't have a fighting chance. GET AWAY Pretend that you just lit the fuse on a cheap Chinese firecracker the size of a dog house. [link to video.google.com] Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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Timur2020 User ID: 74091141 United States 12/29/2019 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well when we started, bears could eat you on the way to church...now, ji gg ly bears trinity loves might kill you in church and jesus very clearly advised the talmidum to buy 2 swords.....the waste of the east is really all paganism and goddess cult with a phony front. Catholic church lost out there awhile back, hence all the "it dont matter what you are as long as you come here and recognize our pope" and so they are full of goddess rot and beggars of the sons of night pfft! Thats why you claim it but dont know it, claim to attack by it but people use the whore, europe, for sex tourism because all somebody has to do is look at goddess people and they are stripping. Its also why the moslum owns, they dont play goddess bs. But...."modern idiocy hampers youths who seek to grasp these simple truths.." Guess nobody pays attention to their holy book. Jesus says love your enemies not shoot them. Praise the lord! How despicably low intelligence, bible ignorant and adult life experience are you? Cripple of ignorance and piece of the system life. "Nominal" christian, what jesus has to carry and be embarassed of. If we were doing bible as jesus said, the men would have 2 guns - thats how real humans know goddess abortion when they smell it. Thanks for posting so candidly and maybe somebody is sorry about you? Jesus? Last Edited by Timur2020 on 12/29/2019 07:35 PM "Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind" Covid, fake riots, communist organizers - keep your powder dry America. This was not the disease or the riots, those both are still on down the line. Garden garden grow spices and medical plants too. I am a VeterAid volunteer for Arrogant Mushroom Healers of Alamogordo. |
Azaziah User ID: 72409546 United States 12/29/2019 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Prior knowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74810057 Five guns in the room . And how did shotgun guy get in the door??????? No one at the Church in White Settlement thought that a guy who came in wearing a big black robe with hood was a little... odd. Lots of odd looking people come into churches... 99.999% of the time, they are simply at odds with life, and are searching for help. Most churches, especially evangelical / Baptist are amazingly understanding of people that look 'odd'. Little old ladies with a worn out Bible and a genuine caring are the most able to handle 'odd' folk. I have seen it at work, and it is awesome. |
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~kpm~ User ID: 75950402 United States 12/29/2019 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The good guy who got killed (first person the murderer shot) was the custodian of the Church and was about 70 years old. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 He gave his life to protect his friends and is a hero. They reported this too..... An elder at the church told the New York Times that one of those killed was a security guard who responded to the shooter, calling him a dear friend. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
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~kpm~ User ID: 75950402 United States 12/29/2019 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | media shut down going into effect, now they begin to narrate the incident and never show the HEROES. They parade the police and lie lie lie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77674052 First title I’ve seen that actually tell the truth of the shooting Parishioners Return Fire Killing Gunman; 2 Dead, 1 Injured in North Texas Church Shooting [link to www.nbcdfw.com (secure)] ~With forethought and malice Whitless enacted an EO giving nursing homes immunity from wrongful death prosecutions, forced them to take in infected patients and is responsible for over 6500+ nursing home deaths~ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74628864 United States 12/29/2019 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | media shut down going into effect, now they begin to narrate the incident and never show the HEROES. They parade the police and lie lie lie. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77674052 No doubt because real Americans are rallying behind the heroes who exercised their 2nd Amendment to put down an immediate threat. |
judahbenhuer User ID: 75047855 United States 12/29/2019 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess nobody pays attention to their holy book. Jesus says love your enemies not shoot them. Praise the lord! Bring in Kanye and Joel Ostend next week for service for 300 dollars they will make it all better. “My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.” -Stonewall Jackson "The Bible that is falling apart usually belongs to a person who is not." - Charles Spurgeon “I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.” “If we abide by the principles taught in the Bible, our country will go on prospering and to prosper; but if we and our posterity neglect its instructions and authority, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” -Daniel Webster |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78288844 United States 12/29/2019 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The flash from the bad guys gun was from him pulling the trigger just after or while the bullet from the good guys pistol was in his brain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469 The reason you cannot hear the pistol shot is because the shotgun blast was louder and covered the sound of the pistol shot. The shots were fired at the same moment, the louder, bigger shot gun got the recording. Agreed. That's my assessment as well. The shooter's third shot from his gun and the fatal shot from the defender are both fired at the same moment. |
Blue State Rebel User ID: 73724632 United States 12/29/2019 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It sure does. It couldn’t have happened faster if he had his hand on his weapon just waiting on someone to enter the church shooting. It is strange. I hate to say it....but I think this looks strange too. I would not be surprised if this was staged. Not with the congregation, I think their reaction is genuine, but with the shooters. More analysis is needed. I do like that so many people in Texas are packing though - way to go! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77119396 United States 12/29/2019 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Excellent analysis here: Quoting: Rockwell [link to twitter.com (secure)] Shooter was wearing a black lives matter t-shirt and black clan robes. Fucking right. Hate crime. |
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Red Rider User ID: 74302486 United States 12/29/2019 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There were FIVE armed men in that room? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74810057 Someone was ready fo a fight. Ya, that's odd. Even synagogues aren't that well armed and quick to respond. Something was up. There's more to this story. And for a guy to bring at fucking shotgun into a church when a handgun would have been much easier, that's even more odd. Plus if you'll notice, the guys with guns were on the same side of the church as the gunmen, already in a prime position to respond quickly, almost as if they were already keeping an eye on the shooter. Or did the shooter place himself near the armed good guys because he wanted a shootout with them? You'd think if a guy was going to shoot up a church, he'd stay as far away from armed people as possible. Shit just isn't adding up in this scene. No one in Fort Worth will ever forget one of the first mass church shootings to occur and it occurred right here in Fort Worth at Wedgwood Baptist Church. It was horrific and killed 7 including youth who were performing a ministry skit. You do not need any more excuses or reasons to carry in Fort Worth or Texas. You are part of the problem if you think people need a reason to carry. The reasons are everywhere. [link to wedgwoodbc.org (secure)] [link to www.fox4news.com (secure)] [link to www.nytimes.com (secure)] |
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