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once the first bill is passed file suit, class action preferably and take it to court, all the way to the supreme court where the constitution will reign supreme.

then file class action suit against these elected officials and the state and take their money.

anything else is the wrong approach that they are hoping for.
threats and violence remove your rights and then they can violate them, that is what they are hoping for.
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
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The rapist just closed the session until noon tomorrow.
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How pathetic.

Why did they have such a brief session?
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premature wefuckuations?
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rep going off now on the fact that a member who couldnt attend and the docket had no gun bills and asked them to wait until wednesday and then the dems changed the docket after he left to include gun laws!! he was pissed!!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Northern Va has 40 of the population and most of the financial senators!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


the ass from fairfax is rambling about football. WTAF!!! Shut up and sit down!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Wow basketball.

I am truly disgusted by these people
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While aunt Elaine was taking a shower, I closed down the airspace, and now we are watching birds.

Choo choo, I hear your cuck train, Angela.
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Vote for succession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77554547


TX is the only state that can legally do so. because they were a republic before joining the united states, Kinda like their own country!!
Coastie Patriot
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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Northern Va has 40 of the population and most of the financial senators!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


the ass from fairfax is rambling about football. WTAF!!! Shut up and sit down!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Wow basketball.

I am truly disgusted by these people
 Quoting: Oaken Paw


Durden, I kind of like this Angelina flavored Merkel bot they loaded up today. This shit show circus is just like in the movie.

While aunt Elaine was taking a shower, I closed down the airspace, and now we are watching birds.

Choo choo, I hear your cuck train, Angela.
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


Which officer is going to throw away their state pension and retirement to go arrest the governor? I agree it should be done but being a realist.


Does anyone have any information here about the laws that all passed Judiciary today? judiciary is where they all should be shut down for being anti 2a!!! should have never made the floor for a vote
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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once the first bill is passed file suit, class action preferably and take it to court, all the way to the supreme court where the constitution will reign supreme.

then file class action suit against these elected officials and the state and take their money.

anything else is the wrong approach that they are hoping for.
threats and violence remove your rights and then they can violate them, that is what they are hoping for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77141761


who really has the money to do that !!! or wants to spend it on lawyers. I know i dont have that kind of money!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Vote for succession.
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TX is the only state that can legally do so. because they were a republic before joining the united states, Kinda like their own country!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


It is Secession.
Make America Strong Again
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


Which officer is going to throw away their state pension and retirement to go arrest the governor? I agree it should be done but being a realist.


Does anyone have any information here about the laws that all passed Judiciary today? judiciary is where they all should be shut down for being anti 2a!!! should have never made the floor for a vote
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Very pragmatic point. We have to be realists here.
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once the first bill is passed file suit, class action preferably and take it to court, all the way to the supreme court where the constitution will reign supreme.

then file class action suit against these elected officials and the state and take their money.

anything else is the wrong approach that they are hoping for.
threats and violence remove your rights and then they can violate them, that is what they are hoping for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77141761


who really has the money to do that !!! or wants to spend it on lawyers. I know i dont have that kind of money!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


There will be lawyers willing to take this on pro bono. You just have to pick the right one. I'll take on cases like that myself in my life time. It's just part of the job. I can't do it because I'm a law student and not licensed in Virginia anyway, but someone will.
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Also, does anyone have the complete list of the 100 bills that are up for vote. I know it's here but there are 36 pages now.
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[link to amgoa.org (secure)]

amgoa.org seach va if the link doesnt work!!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


Which officer is going to throw away their state pension and retirement to go arrest the governor? I agree it should be done but being a realist.


Does anyone have any information here about the laws that all passed Judiciary today? judiciary is where they all should be shut down for being anti 2a!!! should have never made the floor for a vote
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


Very pragmatic point. We have to be realists here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


The real option would be for sheriffs of all counties that disagree to get together once Northam signs. But then it is like one guy with a gun holding a crowd at bay. The crowd has the numbers but no one wants to be the one that gets shot leading the charge of numbers!!! Schooling fish mentality!!!
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

It's better to have people think you a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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once the first bill is passed file suit, class action preferably and take it to court, all the way to the supreme court where the constitution will reign supreme.

then file class action suit against these elected officials and the state and take their money.

anything else is the wrong approach that they are hoping for.
threats and violence remove your rights and then they can violate them, that is what they are hoping for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77141761


who really has the money to do that !!! or wants to spend it on lawyers. I know i dont have that kind of money!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


There will be lawyers willing to take this on pro bono. You just have to pick the right one. I'll take on cases like that myself in my life time. It's just part of the job. I can't do it because I'm a law student and not licensed in Virginia anyway, but someone will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


Not ever going to work with a JustUs system.
It IS corrupted by the officials running it.

Our forefathers knew this would happen at a future date.
Remove them by lead ballot and vote for new representation.

Using their corrupt systems will only get you their solutions.
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Last option. People have lives and children. Many Virginians are ex military and gov workers or currently work for gov themselves. They get checks from gov to feed and shelter their families. They will I believe end up abiding and set the trend.
The places they will have trouble is where family is deeply rooted and they all live on the same land. But cookie cutter ex or current gov worker neighborhoods. Most will hand them right over. You think these guys wives are telling there husbands go ahead fight it out. Or keep the checks coming to feed the kids.
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Typical whamen
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once the first bill is passed file suit, class action preferably and take it to court, all the way to the supreme court where the constitution will reign supreme.

then file class action suit against these elected officials and the state and take their money.

anything else is the wrong approach that they are hoping for.
threats and violence remove your rights and then they can violate them, that is what they are hoping for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77141761


who really has the money to do that !!! or wants to spend it on lawyers. I know i dont have that kind of money!!
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


There will be lawyers willing to take this on pro bono. You just have to pick the right one. I'll take on cases like that myself in my life time. It's just part of the job. I can't do it because I'm a law student and not licensed in Virginia anyway, but someone will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748


Not ever going to work with a JustUs system.
It IS corrupted by the officials running it.

Our forefathers knew this would happen at a future date.
Remove them by lead ballot and vote for new representation.

Using their corrupt systems will only get you their solutions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10724289


that is why the 2nd exists!!
Coastie Patriot
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Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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can anyone pull info from the VCDL to see what passed to the voting floor today!!??
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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
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Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
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Which officer is going to throw away their state pension and retirement to go arrest the governor? I agree it should be done but being a realist.


Does anyone have any information here about the laws that all passed Judiciary today? judiciary is where they all should be shut down for being anti 2a!!! should have never made the floor for a vote
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Very pragmatic point. We have to be realists here.
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The real option would be for sheriffs of all counties that disagree to get together once Northam signs. But then it is like one guy with a gun holding a crowd at bay. The crowd has the numbers but no one wants to be the one that gets shot leading the charge of numbers!!! Schooling fish mentality!!!
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Just like Flight 93. A dozen strong men could’ve clobbered the bad guys instantly but fear kept them mentally imprisoned until it was too little too late.
I know.. completely different topic but principal is the same.

Bad guys win with fear as their main weapon.
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Also, does anyone have the complete list of the 100 bills that are up for vote. I know it's here but there are 36 pages now.
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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
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Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

If the mind is willing, the flesh could go on and on without many things.” – Sun Tzu

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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can anyone pull info from the VCDL to see what passed to the voting floor today!!??
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
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Last option. People have lives and children. Many Virginians are ex military and gov workers or currently work for gov themselves. They get checks from gov to feed and shelter their families. They will I believe end up abiding and set the trend.
The places they will have trouble is where family is deeply rooted and they all live on the same land. But cookie cutter ex or current gov worker neighborhoods. Most will hand them right over. You think these guys wives are telling there husbands go ahead fight it out. Or keep the checks coming to feed the kids.
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Except the scope of this goes well beyond Virginia. Folks from several states away are prepping to go if shtf. Not everyone has 'kids' btw.
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You just need an army of lawyers. The problem is most of them are in a club and will want to practice law after it is over. So one of them will sell you out some how.
Then my guess is the orange goose will say hand them in he will get them back for you on his second term.
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77311748



So in otherwords, just like Trump pussied out with Iran, You guys are going to pussy out too. File a lawsuit and wait 6 months to a year for a decision which will also screw you in the ass all the while Virgina people will be locked up.

And you wonder why we are where we are. Fucking cowards the lot of ya!!! Thing is we'd all join you and fight by Virginians side if you weren't going to cuck out.

Thanks for being pussies and screwing it up for the rest of the 51 states who after seeing you guys talk shit, get militias together, and then file a bitch lawsuit, the other states will follow suite and come after our guns.

Just like the Iran war threads, unpin these fucking cowards threads too.

DOOM OFF for Virgina DOOM!

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I'm not from Virginia, and I don't see the people on the East Coast backing down or being pussies. In fact, I'm prepping for the worst. I was just answering a legal point. I'm from California and likely to have milder language even when speaking in favor of Second Amendment rights, which I am highly in favor of.

I'll agree with some other posters here though that our legal system is screwed. And it's unlikely that an injunction against enforcement would be granted before the 20th, so anything could happen.

I don't think people will start a war to satisfy you because you yelled "chicken" from behind your keyboard on an internet forum, but I happen to know that Virginia is a fucking powder keg at the moment.

It would be nice to see a peaceful resolution that maintains our Second Amendment rights. That's always the preferred option, because when you fight to retain freedom, you run the strong risk of not being able to live to enjoy it :( It's a last resort, as it should be.
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What exactly are we waiting on for Virginia to do before we start the second civil war there?

Are we waiting on them to pass these bills? When exactly is that going to happen? And then what exactly are we going to do about it?

Are we going to citizen arrest all of the politicians?

Are we just going to go to straight war with all of them?

Or are we just going to do nothing which is what I expect? Maybe a few rallies and protests and then it'll fade away just like everything else and you'll take it in the ass like you usually do?

Three options there which one are you picking?
 Quoting: Kingzzor


Last option. People have lives and children. Many Virginians are ex military and gov workers or currently work for gov themselves. They get checks from gov to feed and shelter their families. They will I believe end up abiding and set the trend.
The places they will have trouble is where family is deeply rooted and they all live on the same land. But cookie cutter ex or current gov worker neighborhoods. Most will hand them right over. You think these guys wives are telling there husbands go ahead fight it out. Or keep the checks coming to feed the kids.
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Except the scope of this goes well beyond Virginia. Folks from several states away are prepping to go if shtf. Not everyone has 'kids' btw.
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Wars are no fought by just childless men. So going to use the children as an excuse to piss out now huh?
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I think technically the Sheriffs can arrest them for treason if the Bills pass. That would, in my opinion and any law-tard that wants to step in here please do so...
 Quoting: Kingzzor


As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC



So in otherwords, just like Trump pussied out with Iran, You guys are going to pussy out too. File a lawsuit and wait 6 months to a year for a decision which will also screw you in the ass all the while Virgina people will be locked up.

And you wonder why we are where we are. Fucking cowards the lot of ya!!! Thing is we'd all join you and fight by Virginians side if you weren't going to cuck out.

Thanks for being pussies and screwing it up for the rest of the 51 states who after seeing you guys talk shit, get militias together, and then file a bitch lawsuit, the other states will follow suite and come after our guns.

Just like the Iran war threads, unpin these fucking cowards threads too.

DOOM OFF for Virgina DOOM!

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You did not answer my query you just bold in red. What are the options for the Sheriffs was the Query here. You just seem to be angry and inciting violence which is why these posts don't get pined. idiots like you, you don't even know if the Bills will become Laws yet. Here is a primer for you.
It seems to be about your level of discourse.

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silencing yourself and living in the dark just means you've left yourself exposed to the type of people who wander the dark looking for victims who won't scream. TlvmmCpoft

A Palette is a terrible thing to waste...Lance

And Epstein didn't kill himself
And
Ghislaine Maxwell didn't kill herself
And
Prince Andrew did not kill himself
And
Ricky Gervais did not kill himself
And
Jesus was NOT a hippy
ANd
Avenetti didn't kill himself
Nor did anthony bourdain
And
Hunter Biden did not kill himself
And now
Tulsi Gabbard didn't kill herself

But Adam Schiff just might!
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Trump could call out the National Guard to enforce the Constitution here against any groups or agencies attempting arrests under these BLATANTLY AND MANIFESTLY un-Constitutional "laws."

But he won't.

We've all been set up FOR THIS MOMENT and THIS PURPOSE!!
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“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!"

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As far as arresting a legislator goes, the law specifically is "The Senators and Representatives...shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony, and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same..."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 6, CLAUSE 1

So you'd have to prove passage of the law is a felony, breach of the peace or treason, and it's actually a bit of a stretch, but I suppose treason would be the best charge to go after, but I'm doubting it would stick. The definition of treason is:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

They have a lotta leeway in the health, safety and welfare latitude. So, I don't believe law enforcement or the courts are likely to arrest them for passing laws. The people are going to have to explain to the representatives how much they don't want this and that it will go bad for them if they pass it.

Now, on the other hand, you can seek an injunction to prevent enforcement of the laws while you present an excellent argument that they are unconstitutional. Then it's gonna depend on the SCOTUS, because that lawsuit, if it's well-crafted, really will go all the way up to the Supreme Court.

People don't realize that it's just as important to keep an eye on your local judges as your legislators.
 Quoting: Lance Roseman From BC



So in otherwords, just like Trump pussied out with Iran, You guys are going to pussy out too. File a lawsuit and wait 6 months to a year for a decision which will also screw you in the ass all the while Virgina people will be locked up.

And you wonder why we are where we are. Fucking cowards the lot of ya!!! Thing is we'd all join you and fight by Virginians side if you weren't going to cuck out.

Thanks for being pussies and screwing it up for the rest of the 51 states who after seeing you guys talk shit, get militias together, and then file a bitch lawsuit, the other states will follow suite and come after our guns.

Just like the Iran war threads, unpin these fucking cowards threads too.

DOOM OFF for Virgina DOOM!

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You did not answer my query you just bold in red. What are the options for the Sheriffs was the Query here. You just seem to be angry and inciting violence which is why these posts don't get pined. idiots like you, you don't even know if the Bills will become Laws yet. Here is a primer for you.
It seems to be about your level of discourse.

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Inciting violence huh? By calling people cowards? Cowards like you! These post don't get pinned because no doom ever happens. Ever and mods on GLP know most people are cowards and will tuck tail and run before any doom happens.

You're a Canadian huh? You people are even scared of your own shadow. That's how you guys became a liberal socialist nuthouse. Because you didn't fight for anything. Why?

BECAUSE YOU'RE COWARDS!
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Trump could call out the National Guard to enforce the Constitution here against any groups or agencies attempting arrests under these BLATANTLY AND MANIFESTLY un-Constitutional "laws."

But he won't.

We've all been set up FOR THIS MOMENT and THIS PURPOSE!!
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“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God!"

--Patrick Henry
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77140800


It is true that it's better to die free than die a slave. That's the choice we seem to be left, because if we accept the shackles of slavery, we shall surely die anyway. More likely to in fact. Again, a peaceful resolution is preferable. Perhaps the representatives will surprise you and the rally will be a celebration, rather than a battle cry. We can hope.
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At this stage of the game, and at this point of my moding, could you please have a least a basic grasp of YOUR OWN LEGAL SYSTEM and not get deleted by a Canuck who I guess isn't getting three fiddy and a pizza pocket from mommy. If I know more then you about your very own legal system, I will erase your posts because I can not believe a Canuck has to school you. If an American schooled me on my legal system, I would tuck tail and run and feel ashamed. tsk tsk...
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silencing yourself and living in the dark just means you've left yourself exposed to the type of people who wander the dark looking for victims who won't scream. TlvmmCpoft

A Palette is a terrible thing to waste...Lance

And Epstein didn't kill himself
And
Ghislaine Maxwell didn't kill herself
And
Prince Andrew did not kill himself
And
Ricky Gervais did not kill himself
And
Jesus was NOT a hippy
ANd
Avenetti didn't kill himself
Nor did anthony bourdain
And
Hunter Biden did not kill himself
And now
Tulsi Gabbard didn't kill herself

But Adam Schiff just might!





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