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January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3

 
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I assume astro can only predict as long as people are unaware. When they know they can chose without being a slave to the subconscious.
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Very few individuals are aware and that never happens at collective level, that's why such events are predictable.
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My astrology teacher was Gonzalo Pena Tamez. He had a site named i predict. He was famous for predicting the Mexico City earthquake.
He figured out who did 9 11 using astrology and a series of disasters hit his life, ending in his death.
People used to pay him big money to predict their death. He had a method. My belief is that the chart has potential death dates and your free will determines outcome.
I saw his disaster coming and even saw who was behind it, but he would not hear any of it. He was in a state of anger over all the lies.
My point is that he was the most aware person astrologically, and he did not see his own death coming.
I went through a big death transit in 2012 with that Uranus/Pluto square that was going on. I met a soul mate who broke my heart instead, a different 8th house outcome. lol
I'm not sure if we can do anything to stop a transit from affecting our charts except to keep a loving vibe.That way you can hope to access the highest potential of a transit.
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Many astrologers can chart up their death date. They just consider it unethical to do so and most will refuses services if someone asks. But overall charting up ones death isnt that difficult
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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
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Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
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Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
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Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
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Thread: Ron Howard unloads on Trump: 'Self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniac'

Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
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Oh stop, Saturn is about organization and structure. Its Pluto that represents death and destruction

All the astro points to Trumps two terms
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It's WW4, not WW3

You haven't been paying attention the last 40 years.


It's now us vs "them"

"Them" being the external archontic forces trying to exterminate humanity.
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If you don't know what an external archontic force is...


It's in the title.



ugh, it's any entity with the ability to dictate, narrate, assimilate, interfere etc etc.
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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
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Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
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Thread: Military Industrial Complex Strikes Again: War Spending Will Bankrupt America

Thread: 1987 Trump visited Russia also the year Trump could not borrow money from us banks because he went bankrupt.he went the Soros/Russia routes

Thread: Ron Howard unloads on Trump: 'Self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniac'

Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
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Oh stop, Saturn is about organization and structure. Its Pluto that represents death and destruction

All the astro points to Trumps two terms
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568399



Saturn rules agriculture and that requires organization and accurate timing, but it ends with reaping what has been sowed and with threshing and separating the chaff from the wheat. Then the chaff is burned, allways!
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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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no, i don't think so...
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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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no, i don't think so...
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He believes in Trump who told him trump2016-e

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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
Answer
Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
[link to www.quora.com (secure)]


Thread: Military Industrial Complex Strikes Again: War Spending Will Bankrupt America

Thread: 1987 Trump visited Russia also the year Trump could not borrow money from us banks because he went bankrupt.he went the Soros/Russia routes

Thread: Ron Howard unloads on Trump: 'Self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniac'

Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
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Oh stop, Saturn is about organization and structure. Its Pluto that represents death and destruction

All the astro points to Trumps two terms
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568399



Trump WILL have 2 terms and he will be VERY different in his second term.....his progressed ascendant is changing from 29 Libra to Scorpio. No more Mr Nice Guy, literally. The ass kicking will be monumental and a complete surprise frequently.
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Re: January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3
Mike Pompeo – lighting the fuse
7th January 2020 by Marjorie




Mike Pompeo appears to have taken ownership of the Soleimani killing alongside Trump and all matters of defence, as he dominates the airwaves, talking about troop deployments, deterrence and the likelihood of American bombs raining down on Iranian soil. He’s definitely pumped up by the upcoming January 10th Lunar Eclipse at 20 degrees Cancer/Capricorn as it collides with his Mars in Capricorn opposition Cancer Moon, which will make him more combative and aggressive than usual. His Capricorn Sun would also get an over- confidence surge from the late December Capricorn Solar Eclipse conjunct Jupiter.

Moving ahead, March looks like an accident or disaster-prone month for him from 9th to 28 with tr Uranus square his Mars/Saturn midpoint. Which is when there’s high alert on the Israel and Hezbollah charts as well as up in the celestial sphere (see post below – ME sandstorms January 5th.)

On his Secretary of State chart, 26 April 2018 2pm, the ruthless Mars Pluto in Capricorn is catching this upcoming Lunar Eclipse almost exactly. He will be set back on his heels in April and then on a downhill slide of morale, confidence and popularity from late April to late August with tr Neptune hitting on two Jupiter midpoints, one Mars and one Uranus midpoint.

His relationship chart with Trump is far from being as cosy as it looks with a composite Saturn Venus opposition Mars – suited maybe to joint military activity, but with an underlying strand of resentment and aggravation which will erupt into the open in May and June as tr Uranus throws in a firecracker or two into the mix, with rumblings before then.

If the Iranian escapade backfires badly, Trump will toss him overboard without a second thought. And Trump is looking hemmed in every which way from late January onwards with risk attached. Pompeo’s chart relocated to Teheran has Mars on the IC which is not a propitious sign.

Mike Pence has also been scuttling around doing his bit to cheerlead the Trump wagon train along. He has an undermining tr Neptune square his Gemini Sun until late this month and is more confused than he sounds with tr Pluto square his Neptune/Node till later this month as well. Then he’s got jolts, jangles and risk of violence mid February to early March from tr Uranus opposition his Saturn/Pluto midpoint and square his Mars; and more disruption with threat of violence or at least excessive stress late February till early July with tr Pluto square his Saturn/Uranus midpoint. His relationship with Trump will be chilly early March and starting a major slide into disappointment from late March to late April with tr Neptune square the composite Sun and that repeats on and off till early 2021. Tr Saturn is square his Mars across the Inauguration which usually brings a considerable setback.

For Eclipse watchers: Jared Kushner with a 20 degree Capricorn Sun, Eric Trump with a 15 degree Capricorn Sun; and Don Jnr with his Sun Venus in Capricorn square Pluto – are all in for a challenging year.

It’s not that the world isn’t a better place without Soleimani, to which many Iranians would agree, but doing it in such a flagrant, provocative way was narcissistic lunacy. Typical. Better to have used proxies with deniability which would have solved the S problem without giving rise to the inevitable explosive response.
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Gues what is going to reap Saturn?
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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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no, i don't think so...
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Of course we are on the winning side. Who can beat us? The only thing that can beat us....is us.
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For all of you people who are afraid.....I'll share my favorite quote from Shakespeare, from Henry V. A warrior says to a coward: "Thou owest God a death."

It's as simple as that. Don't ever fear, always do the right thing, stand up for yourself, stand up for others, and STAND YOUR GROUND.

Because whether you do the right thing or not, the end is always the same "Thou owest God a death." Don't try to avoid it through fear. No one gets out of this world alive. It just matters how you live while you're here.
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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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no, i don't think so...
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Of course we are on the winning side. Who can beat us? The only thing that can beat us....is us.
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sleeper cells inside you... bio and chemical weapons blowing by them inside you...

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If it happens, it happens. At least we're on the winning side.
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no, i don't think so...
 Quoting: Luisport



Of course we are on the winning side. Who can beat us? The only thing that can beat us....is us.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


sleeper cells inside you... bio and chemical weapons blowing by them inside you...
 Quoting: Luisport



That's always true in every war - there are always traitors and spies and cells. That was true in WW2, WW1 too, I'm sure. Our main problem is our political and media class that give aid and support to traitors and enemies. These people should be arrested and locked up in Gitmo. I would start with NANCY PELOSI. And I'm absolutely serious about this.

As I said in my previous post....never fear. Stand up for yourself, for others, and STAND YOUR GROUND. NEVER give in to fear for any reason. I've been in violent situations several times in my life when I could have been killed or seriously injured. I ALWAYS stood my ground no matter what. Because how you LIVE is far more important, infinitely more important, than how you die. You're going to die anyway. Go out a hero, or at least with self respect. Don't let bad men make you live in fear. DEFEAT THEM.

It may sound like rhetoric but I've lived it so it's my truth. Freedom DOES have a cost and we DO have to defend it and ourselves. Life itself is a battlefield. We're here to make choices and fight for them. It's our choices and our willingness to DEFEND THEM that create who we are.

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And just to make it clear.....I am a WOMAN and I've never been a strong or athletic person. You don't have to be. You just have to be dedicated to doing the right thing no matter what.
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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
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Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
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Thread: Military Industrial Complex Strikes Again: War Spending Will Bankrupt America

Thread: 1987 Trump visited Russia also the year Trump could not borrow money from us banks because he went bankrupt.he went the Soros/Russia routes

Thread: Ron Howard unloads on Trump: 'Self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniac'

Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


Oh stop, Saturn is about organization and structure. Its Pluto that represents death and destruction

All the astro points to Trumps two terms
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568399



Trump WILL have 2 terms and he will be VERY different in his second term.....his progressed ascendant is changing from 29 Libra to Scorpio. No more Mr Nice Guy, literally. The ass kicking will be monumental and a complete surprise frequently.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


I wondered if he was just waiting for the 2020 election or he just didnt know the extent of the evil pitted against him but agreed, all gloves are off, hes going to unleash fury !

His latest speech about going after the Iranian leader showed a gutsy maturity at last. I also expect Gitmo to fill up soon.
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Trump, Mike Pence and Rudy Giuliani are Gemini

2020 will be the worst year for these three zodiac signs: Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius.
Gemini: You Could Feel Loads Of Pressure This Year
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Let's hope we all awake sometime soon and not be slaves to the unconscious.
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-glp double post, hah-

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Trump, Mike Pence and Rudy Giuliani are Gemini

2020 will be the worst year for these three zodiac signs: Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius.
Gemini: You Could Feel Loads Of Pressure This Year
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LOL, you looked up that cheap tabloid horoscope?
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The fact that no two astrologers can agree proves that it -like religion- is pure horseshit.
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Trump, Mike Pence and Rudy Giuliani are Gemini

2020 will be the worst year for these three zodiac signs: Gemini, Libra, and Aquarius.
Gemini: You Could Feel Loads Of Pressure This Year
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from your same link

It's going to be OK, Gemini. I'm not saying it's going to be a bad year, but it could be somewhat challenging for you. The North Node — which is the arrow of your universal compass — will shift into your sign this year, which will challenge you to level up in more ways than one. Some of you could be in the process of relocating, while others make things extra official with a partner.

Whatever the case may be, this is the year where you will be given the opportunity to grow and expand mentally, physically, and spiritually. Are you ready for it?
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
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The fact that no two astrologers can agree proves that it -like religion- is pure horseshit.
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Nah, its usually atheist astrologers that hate Trump cause he hangs out with Christians. Many astrologers dont even know that the original Astrologers were Gnostic Christians, that the manger story is the western horizon at Midnight and Jesus story is the planets and sun in spring. That the temptation of Jesus is the Venus Retrograde, The donkey stars, and the camels eye are all constellations and times of year
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Pluto wasn't even discovered until 1930
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The fact that no two astrologers can agree proves that it -like religion- is pure horseshit.
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i cant believe there are still ppl on earth in 2020 that believe their day to day life is influenced by the position of other planets in the galaxy fml... ww3 come on already and end us all
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
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Give it up dude, they are going to try to push impeachment again but it means nothing

Senate is not going to pass it.

All the top astrologers that arent biased , affirm the two terms
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The fact that no two astrologers can agree proves that it -like religion- is pure horseshit.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


I had a friend who knew zero about astrology just fiddle around with a extended horoscope generator, He saw Trump win the Presidency in 2016 and saw that Hillary had a quiet year after the election just meditating and thinking back.

These biased Trump hating astrologers gave all astrology a bad name





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