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January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3

 
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
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If you go back in archives you can find all the failed astrology predictions that Trump wasnt going to win the Presidency in 2016

The Karma for misusing the art is going to be severe
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
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I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
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May all the astrologists go to Hell.

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Donald Trump's Future as per Astrology (2019) - PVR Narasimha Rao Predicts



51:11, he will be basically sad, very depressed for the next 15 years from 2020-2035 during his Moon Dasha. A broken sad man. He is very likely to lose the elections...
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Why is Saturn called the grim reaper?
Answer
Life ends. For everyone. From mega-rich celebrities to those on the very lowest end of the socio-econmic scale. Plants, animals too - death is all around. And so is growth, the Jupiter side of life.
So Saturn is, on a symbolic level, about “death.” And endings. So Saturn is naturally associated with the grim reaper.
But Saturn as grim reaper is about Saturn as the party-stopper - death.
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Somebody tell Trump the grim reaper has arrived and the party is over!
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Oh stop, Saturn is about organization and structure. Its Pluto that represents death and destruction

All the astro points to Trumps two terms
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Trump WILL have 2 terms and he will be VERY different in his second term.....his progressed ascendant is changing from 29 Libra to Scorpio. No more Mr Nice Guy, literally. The ass kicking will be monumental and a complete surprise frequently.
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I wondered if he was just waiting for the 2020 election or he just didnt know the extent of the evil pitted against him but agreed, all gloves are off, hes going to unleash fury !

His latest speech about going after the Iranian leader showed a gutsy maturity at last. I also expect Gitmo to fill up soon.
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I think it's a combination of things. He's naturally a negotiator, he likes to make deals. He probably would have preferred by nature to make deals with all these people attacking him, but they won't have any of that. They're just rabid. It's paranoia - they've all been involved in illegal activities and they don't want an outsider unravelling their webs of deceit, even accidentally. EVERYONE HAS TO BE PART OF THE CORRUPT SYSTEM.

And because he IS an outsider, he did things like he would in the business world, not politics, because he doesn't really KNOW how things are done in politics. The corruption takes a different form in politics and is much worse. Politics attracts the worst people IN the world, who generally have no redeeming value to society otherwise. It's a great irony that the worst, stupidest, rottenest people in the society are the ones who end up running it.

In business you usually have to have some basic competence, but that's not true in politics. In politics, all you need to do is have the right sponsor and sell your vote. You don't need any brains at all - look at Maxine Waters, for ex.

So it's a very different environment where his usual rules don't apply.

I also think that things were FAR FAR worse than even he imagined. I don't think he realized how truly evil these people are. And then you add in all those people who just seem to be psychotic because of Hillary's loss. Like witches, lol. That's not a world Trump was involved with.

And then the extent to which so much of the government is involved with this network - whether it's to make money or to peddle children or guns or drugs, or to turn the country Communist, or sell us out to China...(or all of the above)....I think what we have discovered about the DeepState is STAGGERING.

Another factor is the constant bad advice he's been getting from all sources, even those who might mean well to him but just are operating by SOP.

This man has been through hell but I think that's all going to change. It's been a steep learning curve but Trump is a genius. They're going to be dealing with a very different man in the next few years.
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May all the astrologists go to Hell.

Amin
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Be carefull what you wish for others, as you might see hell on earth really soon!
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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May all the astrologists go to Hell.

Amin
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Astrology belongs to the Gnostics. It was hijacked by God hating atheists

It works, you just have to learn how to chart it up yourself and not listen to the biased ones that wanted Hillary to win so badly they cooked up every excuse, minor asteroid in the chart and gave the whole practice a bad name
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Donald Trump's Future as per Astrology (2019) - PVR Narasimha Rao Predicts



51:11, he will be basically sad, very depressed for the next 15 years from 2020-2035 during his Moon Dasha. A broken sad man. He is very likely to lose the elections...
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Shivani Shah
Very accurate! Trump was just impeached ... second half 2019, due to sudden development ... complaint from whistleblower snowballed into impeachment inquiry and finally impeached... would love to see an update from PVR on what the fall out will be..


Trumptards will get a reality check really soon.

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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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Well spoken
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Donald Trump's Future as per Astrology (2019) - PVR Narasimha Rao Predicts



51:11, he will be basically sad, very depressed for the next 15 years from 2020-2035 during his Moon Dasha. A broken sad man. He is very likely to lose the elections...
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Shivani Shah
Very accurate! Trump was just impeached ... second half 2019, due to sudden development ... complaint from whistleblower snowballed into impeachment inquiry and finally impeached... would love to see an update from PVR on what the fall out will be..


Trumptards will get a reality check really soon.

epiclol
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You dont know how impeachment works, do you?
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
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I also predicted his victory. And you're right, very few astrologers did - vedic or western. That's the bias I was referring to.

One thing I note about his chart with the Sibly US chart is that his Progressed Moon (and Sun to a lesser extent) is conjunct the US Progressed Ascendant in Virgo. He DOES represent the PEOPLE.

I don't see how they could have missed that Progressed Sun/Moon Combo - hard to beat an aspect like that!
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78106909



I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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I don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war. But I guess you don't get my philosophy. I don't CARE if there is a nuclear war. My philosophy is "Thou owest God a death." We are ALL going to die anyway. Everything that lives on the planet IS going to die at some point. Our human lives are not that long anyway. You cannot live in fear. The only thing we have to do in life is the RIGHT thing. And to me the right thing is to STAND YOUR GROUND. Defend yourselves, defend others and STAND YOUR GROUND. Fight the bad guys, if they kill you....you're gonna die anyway, you died doing the right thing.

I cannot understand people who live in fear, I just can't. If you die tomorrow or 30 years from now, what difference does it make. What matters is HOW YOU LIVE and what you STAND FOR.

Too few people now have courage. It's a quality we have to find again. You can't really live life effectively without courage. So don't worry about nuclear war - if it's meant to be, it will be. But don't let bad men push you or the country around out of fear.
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blah blah blah you listen to demonic knowledge.
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So do your overlords.the masons and royalty deep into “demonic” ceremonies.do you have any idea how much demonic symbolism they use.
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78106909



I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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I don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war. But I guess you don't get my philosophy. I don't CARE if there is a nuclear war. My philosophy is "Thou owest God a death." We are ALL going to die anyway. Everything that lives on the planet IS going to die at some point. Our human lives are not that long anyway. You cannot live in fear. The only thing we have to do in life is the RIGHT thing. And to me the right thing is to STAND YOUR GROUND. Defend yourselves, defend others and STAND YOUR GROUND. Fight the bad guys, if they kill you....you're gonna die anyway, you died doing the right thing.

I cannot understand people who live in fear, I just can't. If you die tomorrow or 30 years from now, what difference does it make. What matters is HOW YOU LIVE and what you STAND FOR.

Too few people now have courage. It's a quality we have to find again. You can't really live life effectively without courage. So don't worry about nuclear war - if it's meant to be, it will be. But don't let bad men push you or the country around out of fear.
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Well said ! but I want to add,


Spiritual people are not afraid of death. It should be forbidden to say the word death and instead call it a "passing" like it used to be called

Spiritual people know they will respawn, reincarnate or resurrect, Its the NPC people that are terrified of death cause they know their tool programming is over

These NPCs infiltrated the church, they infiltrated America, they infiltrated Astrology

Trump is in a spiritual warfare , obviously
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78106909



I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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I don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war. But I guess you don't get my philosophy. I don't CARE if there is a nuclear war. My philosophy is "Thou owest God a death." We are ALL going to die anyway. Everything that lives on the planet IS going to die at some point. Our human lives are not that long anyway. You cannot live in fear. The only thing we have to do in life is the RIGHT thing. And to me the right thing is to STAND YOUR GROUND. Defend yourselves, defend others and STAND YOUR GROUND. Fight the bad guys, if they kill you....you're gonna die anyway, you died doing the right thing.

I cannot understand people who live in fear, I just can't. If you die tomorrow or 30 years from now, what difference does it make. What matters is HOW YOU LIVE and what you STAND FOR.

Too few people now have courage. It's a quality we have to find again. You can't really live life effectively without courage. So don't worry about nuclear war - if it's meant to be, it will be. But don't let bad men push you or the country around out of fear.
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You don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war but US can only "win" using nukes. Time to start thinking deeper!
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Published on Jul 20, 2017

First Atomic Bomb Aug 6 1945 8.16 Hiroshima AS 17.54 VI. It was at this time that Saturn reached the discovery degree of Pluto. In fact a month earlier the solar eclipse fell on that same degree… 17 Cancer.

The New Horizons spacecraft made its closest approach to Pluto on July 14th, 2015, just before Pluto reached an opposition to its discovery degree. The New Horizons flyby of Pluto makes the current nuclear standoff with North Korea very significant. This need not be a bad thing; after all the US made a deal with Iran restricting nuclear development precisely on July 14th 2015. It was shown that Pluto had a heart.
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Trump reversed that and Pluto will be heartless.
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Putin went to Syria, met Assad and then went to Turkey and is now meeting Erdogan!
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WW3 is boiling out!
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I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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I don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war. But I guess you don't get my philosophy. I don't CARE if there is a nuclear war. My philosophy is "Thou owest God a death." We are ALL going to die anyway. Everything that lives on the planet IS going to die at some point. Our human lives are not that long anyway. You cannot live in fear. The only thing we have to do in life is the RIGHT thing. And to me the right thing is to STAND YOUR GROUND. Defend yourselves, defend others and STAND YOUR GROUND. Fight the bad guys, if they kill you....you're gonna die anyway, you died doing the right thing.

I cannot understand people who live in fear, I just can't. If you die tomorrow or 30 years from now, what difference does it make. What matters is HOW YOU LIVE and what you STAND FOR.

Too few people now have courage. It's a quality we have to find again. You can't really live life effectively without courage. So don't worry about nuclear war - if it's meant to be, it will be. But don't let bad men push you or the country around out of fear.
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


You don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war but US can only "win" using nukes. Time to start thinking deeper!
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That's not true. What amazes me is how quickly people go to extremes now. It's what they accuse TRUMP of and actually his responses have always been quite measured and reasonable. He has not done any wild, militaristic things, and I'm astounded at how so many people have "blown up" this death of a international terrorist who was responsible for the current attack on our embassy in Baghdad.

There could be many layers of "winning". To me the first layer is......don't cut and run after killing Solimeini. It was INCREDIBLY STUPID for the Iranians to back attacking our Baghdad Embassy because it gave Trump a reason - actually a NECESSITY - for staying longer. The more inactivity there was in that area, the easier it would have been for him to PULL OUT, which I believe really is the goal that he (and I) desire.

We should NEVER NEVER NEVER have been in the ME at all. From our interfering in Iran's elections, to allowing the Ayatollah to return, to Iran Contra (selling arms to Iran under the table), to the first and 2nd Iraq wars....we should NEVER have been involved in any of this - it's all wrong and destructive. But....it was done and supported by all the same people who now attack Trump. Both politically and in the media.

I do believe he wants us out of this area and so do I. PERMANENTLY. Let them fight among themselves. BUT....if we are attacked as we were at this Embassy and we fight back by killing the main instigator and we are then threatened by retaliation.....WE MUST STAND OUR GROUND. To run or cower would be seen as an inducement for the Iranians and other groups to become even MORE bullying and violent towards us. When a bully threatens you, don't run - you encourage him to attack him more. When he sees you won't run, and you've already bloodied his nose, most bullies back down.

Iran will do what it always does. It will blather and boast and threaten and then it will get its proxies to do sneaky evil shit that Iran won't do directly. Because.....that's Iran. And if they want to do more....I would not want to face the naked might of the US military and Trump, unlike other POTUSES will not hold a leash on them. If Iran really really wants to fight us in a nuclear war, then they would become nothing more than a grease spot on a map.

I would advise them to back down and shut the fuck up. The sooner they do this....the sooner the US will be able to leave this area. WHICH IS THE GOAL.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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I don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war. But I guess you don't get my philosophy. I don't CARE if there is a nuclear war. My philosophy is "Thou owest God a death." We are ALL going to die anyway. Everything that lives on the planet IS going to die at some point. Our human lives are not that long anyway. You cannot live in fear. The only thing we have to do in life is the RIGHT thing. And to me the right thing is to STAND YOUR GROUND. Defend yourselves, defend others and STAND YOUR GROUND. Fight the bad guys, if they kill you....you're gonna die anyway, you died doing the right thing.

I cannot understand people who live in fear, I just can't. If you die tomorrow or 30 years from now, what difference does it make. What matters is HOW YOU LIVE and what you STAND FOR.

Too few people now have courage. It's a quality we have to find again. You can't really live life effectively without courage. So don't worry about nuclear war - if it's meant to be, it will be. But don't let bad men push you or the country around out of fear.
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You don't believe there is going to be any nuclear war but US can only "win" using nukes. Time to start thinking deeper!
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That's not true. What amazes me is how quickly people go to extremes now. It's what they accuse TRUMP of and actually his responses have always been quite measured and reasonable. He has not done any wild, militaristic things, and I'm astounded at how so many people have "blown up" this death of a international terrorist who was responsible for the current attack on our embassy in Baghdad.

There could be many layers of "winning". To me the first layer is......don't cut and run after killing Solimeini. It was INCREDIBLY STUPID for the Iranians to back attacking our Baghdad Embassy because it gave Trump a reason - actually a NECESSITY - for staying longer. The more inactivity there was in that area, the easier it would have been for him to PULL OUT, which I believe really is the goal that he (and I) desire.

We should NEVER NEVER NEVER have been in the ME at all. From our interfering in Iran's elections, to allowing the Ayatollah to return, to Iran Contra (selling arms to Iran under the table), to the first and 2nd Iraq wars....we should NEVER have been involved in any of this - it's all wrong and destructive. But....it was done and supported by all the same people who now attack Trump. Both politically and in the media.

I do believe he wants us out of this area and so do I. PERMANENTLY. Let them fight among themselves. BUT....if we are attacked as we were at this Embassy and we fight back by killing the main instigator and we are then threatened by retaliation.....WE MUST STAND OUR GROUND. To run or cower would be seen as an inducement for the Iranians and other groups to become even MORE bullying and violent towards us. When a bully threatens you, don't run - you encourage him to attack him more. When he sees you won't run, and you've already bloodied his nose, most bullies back down.

Iran will do what it always does. It will blather and boast and threaten and then it will get its proxies to do sneaky evil shit that Iran won't do directly. Because.....that's Iran. And if they want to do more....I would not want to face the naked might of the US military and Trump, unlike other POTUSES will not hold a leash on them. If Iran really really wants to fight us in a nuclear war, then they would become nothing more than a grease spot on a map.

I would advise them to back down and shut the fuck up.
The sooner they do this....the sooner the US will be able to leave this area. WHICH IS THE GOAL.
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State department has a opposite advice:
Thread: State Department Urges Americans Abroad to ‘Keep a Low Profile’

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all this talk about astrology got me to look at my annual extended forecast on astro.com

cancer w/cancer rising - this conjunction looks pretty darn good for me ... off to buy a powerball ticket
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That's always good advice to civilian travelers - much of the world is in chaos now anyway. I wouldn't consider going to Mexico for instance. We're lucky to have such a vast country with enormous changes of climate, beauty, history, etc. I would advise people to stay put for the time being, of course.

But the US has to stay put in Iraq until things calm down over there. Iran's incredibly stupid - even MORONIC - actions with Solimeini have insured that. We CANNOT leave now, it would be cutting and running in the face of threats. Trump, rightly, would never do this, and neither should we.

If they want us to leave, they've all got to SHUT THE FUCK UP over there and stop attacking our people.

Of course, a big problem is that our DeepState wants us to STAY so they can make more money from war (MIC), but those people need to be routed out. I'd love to see them all executed frankly, for their treason, sedition, and attacks on World Peace. The DeepStates of the various Western countries, including Israel, have been the greatest challenges to World Peace in our time.
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the Iranian attack in response to the murder of General Soleimani will soon take place in Bahrain where an exceedingly target-rich environment exists

if you attack Bahrain, you’re also attacking Saudi Arabia
the US 7th fleet is based in Bahrain as is, a brand new British naval base, where naval assets from both countries shelter.”

Tensions between Iran and Israel have been frustrated for a while This type of assault could have wider implications as it could prove to be a threat to global oil supplies which would inevitably cause more nations to intercede

Lets not forget Tensions between the US and Turkey has heightened over the past year As a result, the state of the US-Turkey relationship has worsened, causing fear about the subsequent impact on the NATO alliance

Lets not forget Kashmir

In the past 10 years, the relationship between India and Pakistan has worsened, bringing the countries to the brink of war.
Recently, North Korea promised a “Christmas present” that many in the United States worried would be a nuclear or ballistic missile test.

However, this was not the case, but if the country did undertake a nuclear test, the US might be forced to intervene

The US-China relationship has been particularly tense in recent years If the situation were to escalate, it could lead to military confrontation in areas such as the South or East China Seas

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Is it the gravitation pull of the aligned planets and moons that those power? Perhaps those chunks of rock have intellect and communicate but need to have the sun at their backs and inline like multiple magnifier glasses for their real power to be exerted?

Seems more likely that it is the effects of earths gravity causing a hammer to fall on someone's head that causes such predictions.
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Donald Trump's Future as per Astrology (2019) - PVR Narasimha Rao Predicts



51:11, he will be basically sad, very depressed for the next 15 years from 2020-2035 during his Moon Dasha. A broken sad man. He is very likely to lose the elections...
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Shivani Shah
Very accurate! Trump was just impeached ... second half 2019, due to sudden development ... complaint from whistleblower snowballed into impeachment inquiry and finally impeached... would love to see an update from PVR on what the fall out will be..


Trumptards will get a reality check really soon.

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More proof you exist in la la land.
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(Published in the Dec 2015 edition of The Mountain Astrologer)

Looking back at previous cycles, we can see that a Saturn–Pluto conjunction occurred in October 1914, around the outbreak of World War I; this global conflict certainly reshuffled power dynamics by dissolving the Russian monarchy, the Ottoman Empire, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which led to the redrawing of national borders within Europe.

On January 12, 2020, Saturn conjoins Pluto at 22° Capricorn for a single, and dramatic, pass. With the Sun, Ceres, and Mercury within a degree, and the respective South Nodes of Saturn and Pluto close to this degree, we can expect this cycle to have an exceptionally powerful effect, from the year leading up to the conjunction and approximately two years following it. As previously mentioned, this cycle is bound to stimulate significant geopolitical dynamics that will affect the distribution of power in many structures on a global scale.

We can anticipate important changes in the natural resources industry, the banking system, and regional and world leadership, but it is difficult at this point to anticipate what direction this powerful influence will take. Of course, the U.S. (July 4, 1776) Pluto is itself in Capricorn (27°), guaranteeing a strong effect on this country’s economy around those years.
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Planets tard
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all this talk about astrology got me to look at my annual extended forecast on astro.com

cancer w/cancer rising - this conjunction looks pretty darn good for me ... off to buy a powerball ticket
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Good luck ! I have an extended subscription as well. Worth every penny





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