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January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3

 
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Thread: "WERE GOING TO WAR BRO" Fort Braggs 82nd airborne deploys to middle east!!! Fast deployment

By killing Qassem Suleimani, Trump has achieved the impossible: uniting Iran
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WW3 is unavoidable unless Trump suffers an "accident".
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intriguing thread, im looking forward to pluto sliding into aquarius ( sounds like disney porn lol) march 23 2023, the age of technological dystopia :D
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Trump is achieving another impossible: uniting the two Koreas

U.S. strike on Iran could have consequences in North Korea
“North Korea would say that the ‘imperialist’ nature of the United States would never change, and that there is no other option for them other than to strengthen its nuclear deterrent while bracing for long-term confrontation,” said Koh, an adviser to current South Korean President Moon Jae-in.
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Well done Trump!

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I assume astro can only predict as long as people are unaware. When they know they can chose without being a slave to the subconscious.
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Very few individuals are aware and that never happens at collective level, that's why such events are predictable.
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My astrology teacher was Gonzalo Pena Tamez. He had a site named i predict. He was famous for predicting the Mexico City earthquake.
He figured out who did 9 11 using astrology and a series of disasters hit his life, ending in his death.
People used to pay him big money to predict their death. He had a method. My belief is that the chart has potential death dates and your free will determines outcome.
I saw his disaster coming and even saw who was behind it, but he would not hear any of it. He was in a state of anger over all the lies.
My point is that he was the most aware person astrologically, and he did not see his own death coming.
I went through a big death transit in 2012 with that Uranus/Pluto square that was going on. I met a soul mate who broke my heart instead, a different 8th house outcome. lol
I'm not sure if we can do anything to stop a transit from affecting our charts except to keep a loving vibe.That way you can hope to access the highest potential of a transit.
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It helps, too, to understand that there are planetary influences when we are going through the roughest periods of our life, that it's not just random 'bad luck'.

It's good to know that it has an end date when things will begin to resolve, providing a sense of emotional relief.

It's also good to have an intellectual understanding of the lessons we need to be learning so we can cooperate with the "teacher".
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


don't forget the royal families lol this is the oldest observational science there is, pulled from christianity in the 4th century i think, can't have the humans divining for themselves, best we leave it up to god old obtuse abstract godly god
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


It matters who is consulted. I sat before a certain Jyotishi in India in the late 1980s. He informed me of the precise circumstances of an upcoming and as yet unknown to me marriage, including the first name of the person I would marry, that I already was acquainted with him, the week during which I would first be approached, that the person was born in a different country (he was born in Canada), that he had a large scar across his stomach (he did), that he loved music and nature (big time), and the exact date we would be married. All came true.

I was surprised in 2016 that there were no accurate Vedic predictions about the upcoming election that I could find online; all were saying there was no way to tell the outcome as it was so close. To me, that indicates an incompetent Jyotishi. Predictive astrology conducted by a true master Jyotish astrologer is exceedingly accurate.
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All by design, I pray we don't fall for this deception.

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in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature




I also predicted his victory. And you're right, very few astrologers did - vedic or western. That's the bias I was referring to.

One thing I note about his chart with the Sibly US chart is that his Progressed Moon (and Sun to a lesser extent) is conjunct the US Progressed Ascendant in Virgo. He DOES represent the PEOPLE.

I don't see how they could have missed that Progressed Sun/Moon Combo - hard to beat an aspect like that!
 Quoting: Blue State Rebel


I saw that, too. Hillary's synastry and composite chart was lies, deceit, terror - almost the opposite of Trump's.

Yes, almost every astrology prediction was made with bias. I think that if they had done a blind reading, they would have picked Trump as the winner.

The confusion for me was the family charts. When I looked at Chelsea and Bills' election day charts, victory looked to be a sure thing, whereas Melania's chart was stressed. It turns out that she really didn't want to be FLOTUS, hence the stress.

Tulsi Gabbard has a beautiful natal chart - strong warrior woman with principles, but definitely not showing a win on election day or positive action for the DNC convention.

As for the other Dems, I think Biden's looks most promising to get the nomination (though I have not done Buttigieg), but no matter how good of an astro he might have on election day, there is no way in hell he will win. Trump has too big of a support base and Wall Street, Israel and the MIC like him over the Dems. (Plus Biden has a gazillion skeletons.)

Oprah and Michell Obama have strong transits for 2020, but I have read that Michelle Obama doesn't meet the residency requirement and unless Warren made her the VP pick, I can't see her getting involved in a WH run, despite the pressure from the left.

I didn't see a win in Clinton's chart, either. My bias is trying to find reasons that she won't win. I am progressive libertarian (regulate environmental pollution, strong trade laws, ban multinationals, get rid of tech monopolies, eliminate income taxes, eliminate most of teh alphabet agencies, eliminate the DoD and move toward a strong National Guard, eliminate defense industry profits, get rid of high speed trading and put a 95% tax on daytrading, 35% tax on capital gains, cap pharmaceutical profits, make it a law that any drug manufactured in the US will sell at 5% below the cheapest export price, move to a 25 hour work week, strict immigration laws, massive fines for employers who hire illegals and no welfare benefits for non-citizens outside of emergency services), but no one represents my politics outside of a Ron Paul-Dennis Kucinich ticket.

starsoverwashington.com seems to be fairly neutral in terms of political astrology.
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These predictions were published in 2017 and as you can see are very accurate!

JANUARY 2019 TO APRIL 2020 ASTROLOGY PREDICTIONS FOR TRUMP

The problem will start in Feb/March 2019 when Ketu enters Sagittarius sign, and collides with transit Saturn for 9 months. At the same time Rahu enters Gemini sign.
President Trump and the GOP party will be at loggerheads after June 2019 over some policy issues. During this time the country will
be in recession. Since we are living in a global economy, so we will be dealing with a global recession, which will continue even into 2020. The unemployment numbers will be high. Americans will be angry. Donald Trump will feel isolated. Donald Trump will have very little public support after June 2019, when impeachment will finally be proposed. There is a possibility of global war during this time. This will be the time when President Trump may take U.S. to next war. Our national debt may even grow bigger, if our political leaders fail to control spending during this time. This could be the time when Trump’s tax returns may finally be leaked. Donald Trump will have cash flow problems in his personal businesses as well during this time. 2019 is certainly a difficult year for President Trump’s health also, as 6th house lord Saturn’s Bhukti is on in Jupiter mahadasha. These will be dangerous times after June 2019, when President Trump will find it difficult to complete his first Term. Things will get worse in 2019, and the voters will penalize the Republican party in 2020 Presidential Election. President Trump will either face impeachment or resign between June 2019 and April 2020.This is the most important prediction.
[link to www.vedicnakshatras.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


I seem to recall that no vedic astrologers predicted Trump's presidency. I did. I looked at his Solar Return based on where he celebrated his birthday, in addition to his progressions and transits as well as his synastry chart with the USA chart. ("Fated" - it doesn't get cleared than that.)


“Millionaires don't use Astrology, billionaires do.”

― J.P. Morgan

Every major bank and trading house has an astrologer (sometimes 2) on the payroll.
 Quoting: Happy in Nature


It matters who is consulted. I sat before a certain Jyotishi in India in the late 1980s. He informed me of the precise circumstances of an upcoming and as yet unknown to me marriage, including the first name of the person I would marry, that I already was acquainted with him, the week during which I would first be approached, that the person was born in a different country (he was born in Canada), that he had a large scar across his stomach (he did), that he loved music and nature (big time), and the exact date we would be married. All came true.

I was surprised in 2016 that there were no accurate Vedic predictions about the upcoming election that I could find online; all were saying there was no way to tell the outcome as it was so close. To me, that indicates an incompetent Jyotishi. Predictive astrology conducted by a true master Jyotish astrologer is exceedingly accurate.
 Quoting: Windsage


That's why a lot of wealthy individuals and banks hire multiple astrologers, to make sure they are on the same page in terms of predictions.

I hope that in a few years I can work on astrological counseling. A good astrologist can put a psychologist/psychiatrist out of business. I know more about a client in 8 hours of studying their charts than a counselor knows after three years of sessions.
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#BREAKING
5 rockets landed in Taji Camp, north of #Baghdad #Iraq

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#BREAKING
5 rockets landed in Taji Camp, north of #Baghdad #Iraq

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Reports coming thru now that the "attack on Camp Taji" in #Iraq might have actually been a test, presumably of the bases alarms. (@Conflicts)
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"Saturn is the agent of Pluto" can you elaborate, never heard anything like this in any book on astrology or from practitioners

It is true they are both more malefic than purely benevolent in nature but that is because sometimes we need a kick in the butt to instigate change, & transform for the better
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it is part of this cycle ending in 2025


Thread: How cosmic forces shape history (timeline included)


was just thinking to make a pin and thread about 12th saturn-pluto conjunction

glad someone else did it

anyone with astrologic knowledge around?
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also it s not simple conjunction, sun is also in same degree. also mercury and ceres within the same degree


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“Soleimani played the key role in destabilizing Iraq after the American invasion.
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And then it was Trump's turn to destabilize Iran.
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blah blah blah you listen to demonic knowledge.
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really? Two digit IQ? The Bible says that the stars were hung for our signs and seasons. There's astrology all over the Bible. Daniel the prophet studied it, and much of the symbolism in Revelation is astrological in nature. It's God's clock work. He put it there for us to read.

On that note....I see this conjunction in Capricorn as a sign of the complete control grid surveillance state.
The anti christ system will be the AI control grid system. When Jupiter and Saturn march into Aquarius together next year, that is when we go to digital currency to seal the control grid.

The conjunction in Libra in 82 which brought us Iran/Contra also brought the down fall of the US through the influx of cocaine. That is why everyone is a materialistic ass hat these days. Back in the 60's and 70's my generation was experimenting with mind expanding entheogens. Cocaine put a stop to all of that, and it put a stop to the anti war movement. The last conjunction of Saturn/Pluto was the beginning of the ending that has now come.
When Pluto conjuncts the Pluto in the Sibley chart, that will be the end of the empire.
Then comes the NWO one world government that the Bible warned us of. This will be the techno facsist inquisition with the jesuit pope ruling from Jerusalem. Oh, you thought that Trump recognized Jerusalem for Israel? ha ha ha.
All of 2019 was the build up to this conjunction.
Who else is hiding this coming week end?
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And the timing for agenda 21 is perfect
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"Saturn is the agent of Pluto" can you elaborate, never heard anything like this in any book on astrology or from practitioners

It is true they are both more malefic than purely benevolent in nature but that is because sometimes we need a kick in the butt to instigate change, & transform for the better
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yes it's true.

about saturn - plutocon junction.

saturn is the ruler of the system. it is also governed by capricorn.

pluto is the ruler of the underworld, it's manifestation brings rebirth
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A bunch of irrational and nonsensical 'predictions' but all the conjunctions that are happening are indeed impressive, what its effects will be, no one knows and I won't embarrass myself by jumping to conclusions lmao...iamwith
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I assume astro can only predict as long as people are unaware. When they know they can chose without being a slave to the subconscious.
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Very few individuals are aware and that never happens at collective level, that's why such events are predictable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


My astrology teacher was Gonzalo Pena Tamez. He had a site named i predict. He was famous for predicting the Mexico City earthquake.
He figured out who did 9 11 using astrology and a series of disasters hit his life, ending in his death.
People used to pay him big money to predict their death. He had a method. My belief is that the chart has potential death dates and your free will determines outcome.
I saw his disaster coming and even saw who was behind it, but he would not hear any of it. He was in a state of anger over all the lies.
My point is that he was the most aware person astrologically, and he did not see his own death coming.
I went through a big death transit in 2012 with that Uranus/Pluto square that was going on. I met a soul mate who broke my heart instead, a different 8th house outcome. lol
I'm not sure if we can do anything to stop a transit from affecting our charts except to keep a loving vibe.That way you can hope to access the highest potential of a transit.
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u still around?
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Paradise lost: residents flee Eden
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does anybody else see correlations between the Eden fires and the Paradise Fires?



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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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I would rather pray for victory. Victory is better than peace...it's what creates peace.

As for astrology, the biggest problem I've seen in analyzing situations is the bias of the astrologers. Most astrologers are on the Left and their predictions reflect this. Being objective is always a challenge in life, but especially in that field.
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How do you see a "victory" after a nuclear war? What is going to be left then?
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it greatly depends on how bad it is. But, even in worst case scenarios only the major cities will be gone, the small towns will mostly go untouched. It will be a quiet, less populated world. The lead in to Star Trek
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WE MIGHT NOT EVEN FUCKIN MAKE IT TO THIS DATE!
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This is the lead in that goes to the next cycle. In the sidereal zodiac Pluto dnd Saturn are still in Sagittarius, near the very last degrees. Next month I think Saturn changes over to Capricorn and everything gets real very fast. Then sometime this winter or spring Pluto which has been in Sagittarius since 2005 makes its first ingress in to Capricorn where it will be for the next 20 years. Pluto rules inevitable change, crisis, everything to do with power, while Capricorn is ruled by Saturn and tends towards seriousness, is cold and worldly, and seeks status and also power- a deadly combo. Saturns direction is west; we should see major crisis all along the west coast of the u.s. lasting for the next several decades.

Next year Jupiter the great benefic conjoins Saturn in Capricorn ushering in the next 20 year social/economic cycle of growth. The last time Saturn and Jupiter conjoined was in 2000 in the sign of a Taurus, marking a 20 year cycle of tremendous financial related change - some got really rich (Taurus is ruled by Venus and is very materialistic) while everyone else now has “money issues”, ie is not well off enough. The next cycle is all about Capricorn things -a lot of hard work probably.
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Paradise lost: residents flee Eden
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does anybody else see correlations between the Eden fires and the Paradise Fires?




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Yep, I see the correlations. To me, it's obvious who's behind all these...

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By a new car and all of this goes away
Have your inner tubes fixed in a garage
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WE MIGHT NOT EVEN FUCKIN MAKE IT TO THIS DATE!
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Check out Martin Armstrongs Jan 18th/19th turning date.
He posted this prediction over 30 years ago, bub
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While there may be credibility in the field of astrology, it has been my experience that prayer supercedes planetary influences.

So, instead of focusing astrological predictions, pray for peace.
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While this is true individually, on the world scale you are not going to stop something that is God's will.
The astrology describes the coming mark of the beast anti christ system. Prayer cannot stop something that is God's will in the first place. These are the last days for the devil and I say "bring it"!
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Re: January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3
I assume astro can only predict as long as people are unaware. When they know they can chose without being a slave to the subconscious.
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Very few individuals are aware and that never happens at collective level, that's why such events are predictable.
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My astrology teacher was Gonzalo Pena Tamez. He had a site named i predict. He was famous for predicting the Mexico City earthquake.
He figured out who did 9 11 using astrology and a series of disasters hit his life, ending in his death.
People used to pay him big money to predict their death. He had a method. My belief is that the chart has potential death dates and your free will determines outcome.
I saw his disaster coming and even saw who was behind it, but he would not hear any of it. He was in a state of anger over all the lies.
My point is that he was the most aware person astrologically, and he did not see his own death coming.
I went through a big death transit in 2012 with that Uranus/Pluto square that was going on. I met a soul mate who broke my heart instead, a different 8th house outcome. lol
I'm not sure if we can do anything to stop a transit from affecting our charts except to keep a loving vibe.That way you can hope to access the highest potential of a transit.
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u still around?
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Re: January 12, 2020: The Saturn – Pluto Conjunction & the start of WW3
(Published in the Dec 2015 edition of The Mountain Astrologer)

Looking back at previous cycles, we can see that a Saturn–Pluto conjunction occurred in October 1914, around the outbreak of World War I; this global conflict certainly reshuffled power dynamics by dissolving the Russian monarchy, the Ottoman Empire, and the Austro-Hungarian Empire, which led to the redrawing of national borders within Europe.

On January 12, 2020, Saturn conjoins Pluto at 22° Capricorn for a single, and dramatic, pass. With the Sun, Ceres, and Mercury within a degree, and the respective South Nodes of Saturn and Pluto close to this degree, we can expect this cycle to have an exceptionally powerful effect, from the year leading up to the conjunction and approximately two years following it. As previously mentioned, this cycle is bound to stimulate significant geopolitical dynamics that will affect the distribution of power in many structures on a global scale.

We can anticipate important changes in the natural resources industry, the banking system, and regional and world leadership, but it is difficult at this point to anticipate what direction this powerful influence will take. Of course, the U.S. (July 4, 1776) Pluto is itself in Capricorn (27°), guaranteeing a strong effect on this country’s economy around those years.
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