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Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran

 
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Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran
all those gifts they gave him wasn't so he could renegotiate Obama's nuclear deal with iran




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In his first address since Iran attacks Iraqi military bases housing U.S. troops, Trump didn't call for any new escalation against the country. Instead he called on its members to form a new deal with Iran instead.

Trump launched into his address by saying Iran would never have a nuclear weapon in his presidency. "Iran must abandon its nuclear ambitions and end its support for terrorism," Trump went on to say, and added that "the time has come for the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Russia, and China to recognize this reality" and "break away from the Iran deal, or JCPOA." These countries must work with the U.S. and Iran "toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer, and more peaceful place," Trump continued.

Trump on pursuing new nuclear agreement with Iran: "We must all work together toward making a deal with Iran that makes the world a safer, and more peaceful place." USE-FULL-LINK-908Di9e0Ba
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Re: Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran
The Saudis wanted de-escalation.
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The Saudis wanted de-escalation.
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sure they do


how long have they been getting their ass handed to them in Yemen?


all the American weapons ain't shit if they can't beat a third world country with no air Force
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Re: Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran
Maybe we should fly a missile up your ass, OP?

Except it's already blocked with your own head......
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FUCKING BINGO.
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Re: Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran
Remember the Bay of Pigs? Probably not, but you can look it up because history has just repeated.

The current equivalent which mirrors the intent of the US-sponsored Cuban exiles that sought to reverse Fidel Castro's Cuban Revolution is MEK, an Iranian dissident group formally designated by the U.S. government as a terrorist organization -until Rudy Giuliani helped get the outfit off the terror list.

MEK is the Farsi acronym for People's Mojahedin of Iran. Needless to say, they also sound like another version of Oliver North's freedom fighters, and that is the context of the current struggle between Iran and the US.

"I'm one of those people who's convinced there has to be regime change in Iran,' Giuliani said. He called Iranian supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei an 'irrational actor' and Soleimani's 'destruction' a good thing."

MEK hailed the killing of Soleimani as a major victory and a step towards the removal of the Iranian regime. Needless to say, that expectation was not realized because the uprising which was supposed to lead to that result never happened. Remember the Bay of Pigs? That effort to trigger an American-backed war also failed.

John Bolton is a longtime MEK ally, and his current desire to "inform" the Senate at Trump's impeachment hearing was probably linked to the killing of Soleimani.
Bolton thought that provocative air attacks against Iran were a prelude to regime change and he was invariably looking for a forum to praise Ayatollah Trump, but the war he was itching to trigger never happened.

Does he still want to testify?

When Trump authorized the strike that killed Iran's top general, Qassem Soleimani, Giuliani jubilantly said, Soleimani was "directly responsible for killing some of my MEK people. We don't like him very much." If Bolton wants to deliver the very same message to the Senate, he should.
In the 1980s, the MEK served as a private militia fighting for Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War. Today, it has a different paymaster: the group is believed to be funded, in the millions of dollars, by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. In Washington, D.C., as in Paris, France, the MEK pays tens of thousands of dollars in speaking fees to US officials. Bolton, in particular, is a long-time paid supporter of the MEK, reportedly receiving as much as $180,000 for his appearances at the group's events.

Is that what he wants to tell the Senate?

MEK is so awash with cash that it doesn't just pay the speakers; it buys the audience, too. Those young Poles and Czechs who traveled to hear Giuliani's speech on June 30 came not out of fascination with Trump's lawyer but for the free weekend in Paris they were offered. The only thing the MEK's money can't buy is popular support among Iranians.

The MEK goes back a long way. Founded in the early 1960s, it was the first opposition group to take up arms against the repressive regime of the Shah. Its ideology was based on a blend of Marxism and Islamism, and the group enjoyed widespread support inside Iran in the 1970s. But a series of missteps saw its popularity dramatically dwindle. After the Shah was deposed, the group's rivalry with Ayatollah Khomeini came to a head not long after the MEK opposed Khomeini's decision to release the fifty-two American embassy staff held hostage by Iran, and instead, called for their execution. In fact, only a few years earlier, as part of a campaign targeting the Shah's regime, the MEK assassinated three US Army colonels and three US contractors, in addition to bombing the facilities of several US companies.

US hawks have no problem with the MEK's terrorist capacities because the group's utility is clear. NBC reported that Israel's spy agency, the Mossad, relied on MEK operatives to assassinate Iranian nuclear scientists during Iran and Israel's secret dirty war between 2010 and 2012. Clearly, Trump was viewed to be the best hope of this opposition group in exile and the failure to dictate the political reality in Iran, or to eliminate the threat of the Iranian regime is clearly longstanding rather than the imminent danger the Trump regime fraudulently identifies.
Lindsey Graham said "it was magical" when he was asked about the intelligence that lead to the death of Soleimani, and that is not at all surprising because Republicans believe in Fairy Tales. Their "regime change" chants have failed to change Iran's regime and it is time for them to stop starting wars through the pretense that they are merely trying to stop them.

MEK-linked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, used the media in effort to generate support for a war agains Iran. He insisted that Iran's regime was definitively to blame for attacks on Saudi oil production facilities for which Tehran-backed Houthi rebels had taken credit. According to Pompeo, the attacks, which hit an oilfield and a production facility, "could not have come from the Houthis. It's crazy for anyone to assert that they did," Pompeo said on CBS's "Face the Nation." "This was an act of war. ... This was a state-on-state act of war."

There is no mystery behind the consequence of Mike Pompeo's deliberate policy of escalating tensions with Iran, targeting its economy and supporting Iranian opposition groups. MEK's greatest friends and allies had the ear of the president and the war party in Washington engaged acts of war in effort to change the regime in Iran without going to Congress, to obtain the required, legal right.

Vice President, Mike Pense tried to justify the targeted killing of General Qassem Soleimaniof by saying, "there was a compelling case of an imminent threat" and he should be impeached for that lie.

Tit for tat failed to resolve anything and it is now time to develop diplomatic ties which are necessary and essential for the purpose of finding alternative solutions to war. Illegal, cold war methodology will never lead to anything beyond hot, mutually destructive war and that is not acceptable.

War criminals murdered 56 Canadians when they shot down a plane to punish Iranians for launching missiles at US bases in Iraq. Jordan initially claimed the plane was taken down by Iran, but Iranians were the victims, not the war criminals of the crisis incited by the targeted killing of an Iranian General.

Ironically, Iran acted overtly but the retaliation was covert.

Overt tit for covert tat was unexpected, but there you have it. Surface to air missile attacks are fired by terrorists, they are not accidents.
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Yes, Bay of Pigs, I was 5 years old in Miami, 90 miles from Cuba, I remember it well!
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Re: Mohammed bin bone saw wants Trump's head for not going to war with iran
Gold climbed at the Soleimani thing, then dropped back to pre-price today. Someone (saw) made a shit-ton of money to make up for the Aramco losses of the past few days.





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