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1guynAz (OP) User ID: 2229693 United States 01/09/2020 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long had a vasectomy after the birth of his second child. However, if he had not and were to father a child, whose DNA would be passed to the baby? Experts told the newspaper it should not be possible for someone to pass on another person's genes. Dr Mehrdad Abedi, from the University of California, Davis, who treated Long, said the vasectomy may be why the semen ended up containing the donor DNA. However, he said they plan to investigate the case further. Long's case is unusual. While almost 23,000 bone marrow or umbilical cord blood transplants took place in the U.S. in 2017, according to the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA), few patients would have collected their DNA before and after to this extent. His case was presented at an international science conference in September and has gained interest among researchers, raising questions about forensic evidence at crime scenes. According to the newspaper, there have been several cases where DNA evidence did not add up and it later emerged a person involved had had a bone marrow transplant. The finding has the potential to add another element to the weight placed on forensic evidence in the legal system—something that has been criticized for decades. Writing for theconversation.com, Jessica Gabel Cino, from Georgia State University, says "forensic science far outpaces the amount of trust it deserves." For Long, while his cells may have been replaced with those of another person, there should be no harmful impact. "Their brain and their personality should remain the same," Andrew Rezvani, from the Blood & Marrow Transplant Unit at Stanford University Medical Center, told the Times. Linky-- [link to www.newsweek.com (secure)] Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
Que Sera Sera User ID: 77649877 United States 01/09/2020 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read somewhere that the baby parts Planned Parenthood are used in the making of vaccinations. So some dead baby DNA will be inserted into someone or someone's child? There is a site The Truth About Vacinations. Read it for yourselves. Behind every myth lies a mystery, and every legend holds an echo of the truth …… Que Sera Sera "For not by numbers of men nor by measure of body but by valor of soul is war decided" Bilisarius " At the siege of Vienna in 1683 Islam seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe. We are in a new phase of a very old war." Gates of Vienna. "May we smite our enemies to the darkest chamber of hell, for we wish only to live in peace, and they desire only to put their boot upon our neck." |
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1guynAz (OP) User ID: 2229693 United States 01/09/2020 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking that, if this is true, "criminals" can make their DNA 'vanish' by getting a transplant of bone marrow and not be 'connected' to a crime as long as there is no other physical evidence of your presence. This also means you can't have kids after you get a transplant because it won't be yours. In this life, there's always a 'good and bad' part of doing thing's isn't there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't so to speak... Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
1guynAz (OP) User ID: 2229693 United States 01/09/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wtf, so legally he's another person with diff ID Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78266409 is this coincidencial or a rule That's a great question. Don't know if it's happened before but the implications are: it happens every time. Maybe they never tested it before this time. They don't go that far in stating this... Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
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Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 01/09/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If this happens more often than not, people, both donor and recipient, need to know, so they can decide if they wish to have their DNA used, or replaced, as a consequence of the marrow transplant. I have zero issues with this as long as all parties involved are fully aware, and choose to proceed, in full knowledge. Last Edited by LJS on 01/09/2020 01:57 PM Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 01/09/2020 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking that, if this is true, "criminals" can Quoting: 1guynAz make their DNA 'vanish' by getting a transplant of bone marrow and not be 'connected' to a crime as long as there is no other physical evidence of your presence. This also means you can't have kids after you get a transplant because it won't be yours. In this life, there's always a 'good and bad' part of doing thing's isn't there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't so to speak... Unintended consequences ...... Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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Rev Woo-Woo User ID: 78176490 United States 01/09/2020 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read somewhere that the baby parts Planned Parenthood are used in the making of vaccinations. So some dead baby DNA will be inserted into someone or someone's child? Quoting: Que Sera Sera There is a site The Truth About Vacinations. Read it for yourselves. Vaccines came to my mind immediately. “If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.” Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace "But ask the animals, and they will teach you, or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you; or speak to the earth, and it will teach you, or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8 "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson revstargazer (at) hotmail.com |
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1guynAz (OP) User ID: 2229693 United States 01/09/2020 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking that, if this is true, "criminals" can Quoting: 1guynAz make their DNA 'vanish' by getting a transplant of bone marrow and not be 'connected' to a crime as long as there is no other physical evidence of your presence. This also means you can't have kids after you get a transplant because it won't be yours. In this life, there's always a 'good and bad' part of doing thing's isn't there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't so to speak... Unintended consequences ...... Can you imagine if they got transplants and had kids afterwords without knowing this will happen????? Maybe went on for years and not knowing. The implications. Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
Click Here Again User ID: 77160280 United States 01/09/2020 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wtf, so legally he's another person with diff ID Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78266409 is this coincidencial or a rule That's a great question. Don't know if it's happened before but the implications are: it happens every time. Maybe they never tested it before this time. They don't go that far in stating this... This is fascinating if true, especially if it's across the board. Now I'm curious to know if this has happened in other procedures like transfusions, transplants, etc. AND why certain people are unable to be recipients. Blows my mind to think that OUR DNA can essentially be instructed to STOP producing its own & begin producing the new strain. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77957449 United States 01/09/2020 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The whole article starts below. Quoting: 1guynAz So according to this information, you can just disappear from existence! MAN'S BLOOD AND SEMEN FOUND TO CONTAIN ONLY DONOR'S DNA AFTER BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT by Hannah Osborne on 12/10/19 AT 6:50 AM EST man's blood and semen has been found to contain only the DNA of a donor following a bone marrow transplant that took place years earlier. Tests showed that only the hair on his chest and head had not been altered by the donor DNA—a discovery that could have big implications for forensic science. "I thought that it was pretty incredible that I can disappear and someone else can appear," Long told the New York Times. Long, who worked at the Washoe County Sheriff's Office, was suffering from acute myeloid leukemia and myelodysplastic syndromes and had been scheduled to have a bone marrow transplant. One of his colleagues, Renee Romero, suggested he take DNA samples ahead of the operation to see what changes would take place. "[I said] we need to swab the heck out of you before you have this procedure to see how this DNA takes over your body," she told the newspaper. Just three months after the operation, tests showed how the DNA in his blood had been replaced with his donors. And the changes continued over time. Samples taken from his tongue, cheek and lip all contained donor DNA. Four years after the transplant, the team found his semen only contained DNA from his donor—a man from Germany. "We were kind of shocked that Chris was no longer present at all," Darby Stienmetz, from the Washoe County Sheriff's Office, told the Times. More below... Yet the consciousness of the individual remains and I would argue that if you need bone marrow you are to the point you will be physically dead soon. They don't just replace bone marrow on a whim. So I guess if a terminal disease like leukemia you can fear a bone marrow transplant if you want, but then you most likely will not survive much longer anyway. It is an interesting piece of information though OP. |
1guynAz (OP) User ID: 2229693 United States 01/09/2020 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read somewhere that the baby parts Planned Parenthood are used in the making of vaccinations. So some dead baby DNA will be inserted into someone or someone's child? Quoting: Que Sera Sera There is a site The Truth About Vacinations. Read it for yourselves. Vaccines came to my mind immediately. That would be unacceptable... Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78280896 United Kingdom 01/09/2020 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wonder what it does in your bloodstream/brian? Worldwide they've been using the chopped up bits of a Thread: Cannibal World - Vaccines Contain Human DNA from 4 Month Old Abortion "MRC-5" What Was His Name? Are We All Related Now? |
Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 01/09/2020 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking that, if this is true, "criminals" can Quoting: 1guynAz make their DNA 'vanish' by getting a transplant of bone marrow and not be 'connected' to a crime as long as there is no other physical evidence of your presence. This also means you can't have kids after you get a transplant because it won't be yours. In this life, there's always a 'good and bad' part of doing thing's isn't there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't so to speak... Unintended consequences ...... Can you imagine if they got transplants and had kids afterwords without knowing this will happen????? Maybe went on for years and not knowing. The implications. They would still love the children as their own, but yes, they and the kids need to know, as well as the donor. If the donor has any genetic propensity for certain diseases/conditions, the kids need to know for their own sake, as well as to make an informed choice about whether they wish to have children. I guess the upside is this could lessen the chances of the kids developing cancer. Another question: If this happens every time, does the recipient have a far lesser chance of the cancer recurring? Maybe a positive unintended consequence? What about women? Does the DNA of their eggs change? Women are born with all the eggs they will ever have, so will this change the DNA of the eggs? Or does it only impact sperm, as sperm is produced as needed in the male body? What if a man/woman receives the donation from a person of the opposite sex? Will their DNA change gender? (Not trying to get the gender switchers all happy here) Last Edited by LJS on 01/09/2020 02:09 PM Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
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ElleMira User ID: 76494359 United States 01/09/2020 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking that, if this is true, "criminals" can Quoting: 1guynAz make their DNA 'vanish' by getting a transplant of bone marrow and not be 'connected' to a crime as long as there is no other physical evidence of your presence. This also means you can't have kids after you get a transplant because it won't be yours. In this life, there's always a 'good and bad' part of doing thing's isn't there. Damned if you do and damned if you don't so to speak... That would make for a good sci-fi thriller |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77943488 United States 01/09/2020 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | cellular memory is real, dna is an information store, think binary computer code on steroids Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78320669 It’s ALL Memory. DNA within the Human Container (and all containers) are being edited all of the time by viruses. Of course, there are the “naturally” occurring mutations (edits) every day from oxygen, eating (and other metabolic processes), etc. The DNA one has today is not the same DNA he was born with. Think: Wrinkles. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77943488 United States 01/09/2020 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All humans are reptilian. Primary Urges come from the Reptilian part of the brain: Reproduction, Eating, Territorial Stuff (war, violence), rituals (Merry Christmas), Repetition. Seems that most humans use most of their time feeding the reptilian part of the brain. |
Lady Jayne Smith Forum Administrator 01/09/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thought: What if a person has a terrible genetic disorder, hemophilia, for instance. Could a marrow transplant cure them of the disorder? Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76789384 United States 01/09/2020 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm going to say this one time only. Aborted baby parts are being sprayed into the atmosphere and being put into the food supply. They are changing the planet. My uncle worked on the projects and it's real. Those planes are remote control - the trails aren't just aluminum and barium... and that grocery or takeout fast food & soda isn't just deep fried foods... it's their bioengineered blood... |
Rosicrucian1 User ID: 78248401 Canada 01/09/2020 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All humans are reptilian. Primary Urges come from the Reptilian part of the brain: Reproduction, Eating, Territorial Stuff (war, violence), rituals (Merry Christmas), Repetition. Seems that most humans use most of their time feeding the reptilian part of the brain. this is correct to a degree.. the reptilian part is for the most part repressed in most people most of the time. It is the other part of humans that we desire to advance and aspire to develop. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77943488 United States 01/09/2020 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All humans are reptilian. Primary Urges come from the Reptilian part of the brain: Reproduction, Eating, Territorial Stuff (war, violence), rituals (Merry Christmas), Repetition. Seems that most humans use most of their time feeding the reptilian part of the brain. Most humans seem to be hyper focused on the body and trying to maintain it in some sort of optimal way through natural or pharm medicine: While they hyper focus on the body - the DNA is constantly being edited whether it be from organ transplants or viruses or oxygen or metabolic processes such at eating food - even “natural” food. |