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Shingen User ID: 77748479 United States 01/12/2020 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? You believe that your GOD was created out of nothing. What's the difference? "Anarchism is not a romantic fable but the hardheaded realization, based of five thousand years of experience, that we cannot entrust the management of our lives to kings, priests, politicians, generals, or county commissioners." - Edward Abbey "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist." -Lysander Spooner "If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skin into their clothing, and if we're very very lucky, they'll do it in that order." - Firefly |
HenryHolland (OP) User ID: 68776590 Netherlands 01/12/2020 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? You believe that your GOD was created out of nothing. What's the difference? I believe that God was NOT created by anyone or anything but has eternally existed. What He has done before the Creation, I can't tell you. Also see Romans 1:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: For more see this link: [link to www.allaboutgod.com (secure)] Have a nice day/evening and God bless! Jesus is Lord |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76423614 United States 01/12/2020 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? You believe that your GOD was created out of nothing. What's the difference? I believe that God was NOT created by anyone or anything but has eternally existed. What He has done before the Creation, I can't tell you. Also see Romans 1:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: For more see this link: [link to www.allaboutgod.com (secure)] Have a nice day/evening and God bless! everything has a cycle, a beginning and an end - every. thing. now, if your god is who created the simulation we live in then maybe we, from our POV, can say it always existed of course god had a beginning and an end - its just outside of our ability to fathom - god had a mom and dad just like everything else |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 01/12/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? You believe that your GOD was created out of nothing. What's the difference? I believe that God was NOT created by anyone or anything but has eternally existed. What He has done before the Creation, I can't tell you. Also see Romans 1:20 King James Version (KJV) 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: For more see this link: [link to www.allaboutgod.com (secure)] Have a nice day/evening and God bless! All the energy in the universe is eternal and has always existed. The god hypothesis not only has no verifiable evidence, it is not at all necessary to explain ANYTHING any longer. All the "god did it" theories have been proven false all throughout history usually resulting in the jailing, torture and murder of the person trying to educate humanity about how the universe ACTUALLY works by people of "faith" enraged by the presentation of verifiable evidence to the contrary of the assertion their invisible friend was responsible.. Bruno, Gallileo, etc. The list is long. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78335021 United Kingdom 01/12/2020 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Ok so where did God come from? As he is something he too can not come from nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78093680 01/12/2020 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Talking out of your ass OP Because time is a projection of 2d linear cognition.. it ends when humans end... the university will continue without us and theres no use in speculating in how things will be that are not even useful to us.... we use that as distractions for not working on our real problems right here with the other humans... you see what the problem is? its us :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76422031 United States 01/12/2020 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That nothing must also be everything. Always was, is, and will be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77814960 The "nothing" you speak of is the Virtual Particle Flux science has recently demonstrated. Commonly called "quantum fluctuations" that we find when we try to create a vacuum. We are so far unable to isolate them under any conditions. They are in fact the largest energy resovoir in the universe, and where all energy comes from, and returns to. Its energy density is a mind boggling number. We found that if you hit it with some energy it will kick out REAL measurable particles that you can measure and count. Leaving a hole in the flux for a small amount of time before filling back in. The total energy of the universe is in fact 0. Look it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77814960 United States 01/12/2020 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That nothing must also be everything. Always was, is, and will be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77814960 The "nothing" you speak of is the Virtual Particle Flux science has recently demonstrated. Commonly called "quantum fluctuations" that we find when we try to create a vacuum. We are so far unable to isolate them under any conditions. They are in fact the largest energy resovoir in the universe, and where all energy comes from, and returns to. Its energy density is a mind boggling number. We found that if you hit it with some energy it will kick out REAL measurable particles that you can measure and count. Leaving a hole in the flux for a small amount of time before filling back in. The total energy of the universe is in fact 0. Look it up. Keep poking and measuring the universe seeking to understand. Just be careful you don’t poke too far . I feel like that same non energy that doesn’t exist exists like a wheel within a wheel of itself as everything . Reminds me of a video I needed to watch lol [link to www.rt.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78338901 United States 01/12/2020 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IT IS A TRICK OF SATAN TO SUBSTITUTE THE FAITH OF MANKIND TO BELIEVE IN A LIE AKA BIG BANG ONCE DONE THE MEASURE OF FAITH THAT IS GIVEN TO EACH OF US IS NOW WASTED ON THE LIE THE PEOPLE WHO FELL FOR THE LIE HAVE NO FAITH LEFT TO BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST END RESULT IS DEATH SATAN WINS HIS PRIZE IS THE EARTH |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78338901 United States 01/12/2020 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Ok so where did God come from? As he is something he too can not come from nothing. GOD IS THE TRUTH THAT CANNOT BE CREATED IR DESTROYED BUT IN THE TRUTH CAN CREATE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75661023 United States 01/12/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't believe in a magical book and lecture others about logic. You believe what you have been told, you copy and paste magical words from your magical book, it doesn't matter when genesis was written, or who wrote it... cos it's magic. and wtf is "the gospel" LOL so the 4 gospels that were written at different times by 4 different authors, none of whom we can even name, are now one gospel? lol let me guess... God wrote it? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77957449 United States 01/12/2020 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The singularity could be an eternal white hole endlessly spitting out the purest most fundamental energy in a disc. That ring field of energy expands slowly outward along the universal disc traveling through space and time, coalescing and forming into galaxies, suns and planets. That ring continues outward to the edge and then many of those suns collapse into black holes devouring all that matter and energy, compressing it inward until it is torn apart at it's most fundamental level and returned to it's pure formless state. Then, that energy is funneled back through a multitude of wormholes right back to the center where it is spit again to make a new ring. The moment of it's creation serving as a vail in space time keeping it from seeing the new rings formed behind it. The Ouroboros; the serpent eating it's own tail. Of course if that is what black holes are doing, then it kind of ends the dream of wormholes being used for travel anywhere, except to the singularity; the forge of god. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77814960 United States 01/12/2020 12:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Or the big bang might be eternal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77957449 The singularity could be an eternal white hole endlessly spitting out the purest most fundamental energy in a disc. That ring field of energy expands slowly outward along the universal disc traveling through space and time, coalescing and forming into galaxies, suns and planets. That ring continues outward to the edge and then many of those suns collapse into black holes devouring all that matter and energy, compressing it inward until it is torn apart at it's most fundamental level and returned to it's pure formless state. Then, that energy is funneled back through a multitude of wormholes right back to the center where it is spit again to make a new ring. The moment of it's creation serving as a vail in space time keeping it from seeing the new rings formed behind it. The Ouroboros; the serpent eating it's own tail. Of course if that is what black holes are doing, then it kind of ends the dream of wormholes being used for travel anywhere, except to the singularity; the forge of god. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78323127 Moldova 01/12/2020 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Thanks for confirming nothing happened. Have a great day Olmert |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76483258 United States 01/12/2020 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Rofl. Expanding universe has been firmly proven via math and observation. Big bang itself is still just the best theory and no one ever taught it was the beginning of anything, but our universe. It takes faith to believe in anything spiritual because they have no proof or evidence. |
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cosmicgypsy User ID: 74619032 United States 01/12/2020 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, whether or not there was an explosion, I think the "Big Bang" simply refers to when the original creation took a hit, and Humanity fell. And the ouroboros describes the endless cycling were in....because we are led to believe this is all "God's" creation. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77814960 United States 01/12/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the beginning before time, you were too scared to ventured out into the darkness, little one. Quoting: John The Baptist 78335555 If you have seen the beginning you have seen the end. In the middle of darkness is the brightest light to be found. In nothing everything is found as both exists as wheels within wheels working together. Inhale, exhale, the breath of life and death. All and nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74081842 France 01/12/2020 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Rofl. Expanding universe has been firmly proven via math and observation. Big bang itself is still just the best theory and no one ever taught it was the beginning of anything, but our universe. It takes faith to believe in anything spiritual because they have no proof or evidence. Dude it takes faith to believe ANYTHING you didnt observe and conclude first-hand by yourself. If you fail to accept and recognize this fact you are damming yourentire future of understanding. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78283618 United States 01/12/2020 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? You believe that your GOD was created out of nothing. What's the difference? GOD did not originate in this dimension. This dimension has a Time aspect, higher dimensions do not. GOD and Science are not separate. GOD created our reality, "Science" is the method by which we are trying to understand it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78338901 United States 01/12/2020 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can't believe in a magical book and lecture others about logic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75661023 You believe what you have been told, you copy and paste magical words from your magical book, it doesn't matter when genesis was written, or who wrote it... cos it's magic. and wtf is "the gospel" LOL so the 4 gospels that were written at different times by 4 different authors, none of whom we can even name, are now one gospel? lol let me guess... God wrote it? LOGIC IS A WORD CREATED BY SATAN TO TRICK AND DECEIVE MANKIND USE THAT WORD AND YOU WILL DIE THE BIBLE IS WRITTEN BY GOD THROUGH MEN FOR MEN LET ME GUESS IT'S NOT WRITTEN FOR YOU |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76483258 United States 01/12/2020 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all, Quoting: HenryHolland In the beginning of time as we know it "nothing" exploded into all we see around us, including ourselves. Now please tell me, is that logical? It takes a whole lot of faith to believe in a socalled Big Bang. However, I have to admit that I do believe in a 'Big Bang' but at the end of time, NOT at the beginning. Just believe the account in Genesis and the Gospel and stop believing other nonsens. (Greetings from Holland and have a nice day) Rofl. Expanding universe has been firmly proven via math and observation. Big bang itself is still just the best theory and no one ever taught it was the beginning of anything, but our universe. It takes faith to believe in anything spiritual because they have no proof or evidence. Dude it takes faith to believe ANYTHING you didnt observe and conclude first-hand by yourself. If you fail to accept and recognize this fact you are damming yourentire future of understanding. Faith in this sense means... strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof I trust math and obserable evidence. And yes, you too can observe the same evidence. Your statement is circular logic at best. |