To bring unity in the faith. A place of correction. What are some lies being taught in the church and what is the truth concerning those lies?

I have heard some teach that the soul is immortal and never dies.


Matthew 10:28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

I have heard some teach that there are others who have immortality, right now, like the angels.


1 Timothy 6:16
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.

Some teach that everyone has the spirit within their temple.

Jude 1:19
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Some teach that everyone is a child of God.


John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


Acts 13:10
And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?


1 John 3:7-10
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Some teach that one does not need to be baptized to be saved when it is baptism that gives one the very spirit that makes one a child of God in the first place.

Matthew 20:22
But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.


Mark 1:8
I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.


Mark 16:16
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Luke 12:50
But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!


Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be ews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

I have heard some teach that one does not need to love or obey to receive the holy spirit but that love comes after one has received it.


John 14:23-24
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.


Acts 5:32
And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.


1 John 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.


1 John 5:2-3
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


1 John 4:6
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Everything Jesus teaches is fact. The new churches put God second and the feel good stuff, number one.

We need the truth, that there is a hell.

And to love your fellow man as you love yourself. Everyone forgets that one.

If you feel tired, or don’t feel like doing what is right, none of that matters.
Do what is right, give of yourself. Love and help others, if you feel like it or not.

Deny yourself, take up your cross and follow Jesus.

And everything he taught was Love.

You're joking right? ALL of religion, and all religions are fake as fuck.
There is no god waiting to judge you. He would change your life for the better if you prayed, and there would be no need to judge you. Yet you believe you will be judged after you have prayed.

ALL religion is fake, fake cults, to control you. Make you look stupid, and shy away from knowledge. YOU SIR are totally controlled by it.

I wouldn't say everything. Wrath was also a part of his teachings.

What is your purpose for coming into this thread?

The New Jerusalem Calendar straightened a lot of things out
Thread: Has anyone not seen the New Jerusalem calendar yet? Now is your chance

Like when Jesus Birthday is and how to properly place the story of Easter.

No thanks. God decides on New Jerusalem. Besides, what about the changes to the sun and moon? When the kingdom of God arrives, chances are that the calendar would be tossed out.


Genesis 1:14
And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


Revelation 21:23
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.


Revelation 21:25
And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.


Revelation 22:5
And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.


Isaiah 60:19-21
The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory. Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.

Everything churches teach is wrong. They are dumbasses.

Early on the Bible mentions the Voice of God creating the universe. Idiot ministers say that's Jesus,
and the Bible. What fucking sense does that make? Zero. Absolutely zero.

The Word came into the flesh and was given a name which some call Jesus. Born of the virgin Mary. I believe it is this Word that created all things seen and unseen. Was the Word named "Jesus" before mother Mary, I do not know but I do know the Word existed in the beginning.

Some say one cannot see the face of God and live yet some have seen the face of the Word. Perhaps it is this Word that was seen face to face in the old testament.

Some teach that a believer will never be treated as an unbeliever once they believe in Christ. Once saved, can they become unsaved later?





2 Peter 2:20-21
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.


2 Peter 3:17
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.


Hebrews 3:12
Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.


1 Timothy 4:1
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;


Matthew 24:51
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Luke 12:46
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

One of the bigger one is that the Apostle John wrote the Gospel of John and the Revelations of John when it was a woman who was a Disciple of John the Baptist when she met Jesus. Her name is Mary of Bethany.

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;
Lu:10:38-42:
Now it came to pass,
as they went,
that he entered into a certain village:
and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
And she had a sister called Mary,
which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
But Martha was cumbered about much serving,
and came to him,
and said,
Lord,
dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
And Jesus answered and said unto her,
Martha,
Martha,
thou art careful and troubled about many things:
But one thing is needful:
and Mary hath chosen that good part,
which shall not be taken away from her.

There is no flesh that is not alive at the start of the new earth.
The 1,000 years will have a static population, in the new Earth they will live in new Jerusalem and act as shepherds to all the people not alive during that era. They will make their homes outside of the city, the universe is the new earth so there is lots of room for a very long time.

Once the living water and pastures are available all other flesh will be resurrected.

Lu:12:6-7:
Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore:
ye are of more value than many sparrows.

there is no hell.. nuclear weapons however can destroy the soul.. which is why planets are so carefully watched during nuclear times.

normal weapons can kill the meat suit yes..

If humans loose their Father Fragment they will not survive.. the Father Fragment is required for eternal life... It is you and your father fragment together you build your soul.. no Father.. NO soul or the soul if started and chooses against the life eternal.. the Father LEAVES... and that ends eternity.

Please avail your self of my threads.. because your stuff is not correct.. NONE OF IT IS CORRECT.

God is the only immortal, so my theory is this, it is his immortal holy spirit inside the believers that will quicken them and make them immortal later on in the future. At least clothed with immortality, whatever way he chooses to do that.

How would you know this?

What is you assessment based on my research into the subject?

This is going to show that the Beloved Disciple is a Disciple of John the Baptist that went with Jesus as soon as He came back from the 40 days in the wilderness. I'm going to go from where she and Christ are the only two beings standing on that mountain top. The verse shows who it is immediately and then compares her to new Jerusalem.
The first mention of a wife is at the time of the return. On the day the 7th trump sounds the two witnesses are resurrected and the people who see that are given less than 1 hour to get to the nearest horizon and the ones that make it before the fire starts remain alive as witnesses. Sodom left no witnesses and when God uses it to sent Satan and the fallen angels to the fiery lake the whole population see it before going to the 3rd heaven and the Great White Throne event.
The vials contain that fire and when all 7 are complete all sinners on the planet are dead and no sinner exists after that point in time. The population for the 1,000 years is a static one and the same ones alive at the start are the same ones that witness Satan going to the fiery lake. This group will reside in New Jerusalem in the New Earth and they will be the Shepherds (always one day ahead in knowledge about the Kingdom of God) and the ones that are resurrected at the GWT will be the ones living outside of the City.

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

Re:19:1-3:
And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,
saying,
Alleluia;
Salvation,
and glory,
and honour,
and power,
unto the Lord our God:
For true and righteous are his judgments:
for he hath judged the great whore,
which did corrupt the earth with her fornication,
and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.
And again they said,
Alleluia.
And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

Post judgment that comes with all 7 vials. Using the pattern established on the day of the cross the vials would be poured out between 1PM-3PM and then the 1/2 hour of silence (ends the wrath portion) and from 3:30PM-6PM the resurrection in Re:10 unfolds. Eze:37 gives the sequence and the end of the Gospel of John put the Beloved Disciple on a higher relationship with Jesus that Peter had.
The reference below is to the ones in the Re:20:4 list.

Re:19:4-9:
And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne,
saying,
Amen;
Alleluia.
And a voice came out of the throne,
saying,
Praise our God, all ye his servants,
and ye that fear him,
both small and great.
And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,
and as the voice of many waters,
and as the voice of mighty thunderings,
saying,
Alleluia:
for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
Let us be glad and rejoice,
and give honour to him:
for the marriage of the Lamb is come,
and his wife hath made herself ready.
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,
clean and white:
for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
And he saith unto me,
Write,
Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.
And he saith unto me,
These are the true sayings of God.

Re:21:9:
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues,
and talked with me,
saying,
Come hither,
I will shew thee the bride,
the Lamb's wife.
Re:21:10:
And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain,
and shewed me that great city,
the holy Jerusalem,
descending out of heaven from God,

Re:1:9:
I John,
who also am your brother,
and companion in tribulation,
and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ,
was in the isle that is called Patmos,
for the word of God,
and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Peter's letter to the Beloved Disciple acknowledges that they were there from the beginning. Paul's letter acknowledges that it is to a woman.

1Jo:1:1-3:
That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes,
which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled,
of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested,
and we have seen it,
and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life,
which was with the Father,
and was manifested unto us;)
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,
that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ.

2Jo:1:1:
The elder unto the elect lady and her children,
whom I love in the truth;
and not I only,
but also all they that have known the truth;

2Jo:1:13:
The children of thy elect sister greet thee.
Amen.

Joh:19:26:
When Jesus therefore saw his mother,
and the disciple standing by,
whom he loved,
he saith unto his mother,
Woman,
behold thy son!

Lu:24:10:
It was Mary Magdalene,
and Joanna,
and Mary the mother of James,
and other women that were with them,
which told these things unto the apostles.

Lu:10:38-42:
Now it came to pass,
as they went,
that he entered into a certain village:
and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.
And she had a sister called Mary,
which also sat at Jesus' feet,
and heard his word.
But Martha was cumbered about much serving,
and came to him,
and said,
Lord,
dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone?
bid her therefore that she help me.
And Jesus answered and said unto her,
Martha,
Martha,
thou art careful and troubled about many things:
But one thing is needful:
and Mary hath chosen that good part,
which shall not be taken away from her.

That is not complete but it does show that Mary of Bethany was right in the thick of things as she saw more as she was there when John was not in prison and the Apostles were not there until John was in prison.

Another big lie is people sent to hell are in the lake of fire after the Great White Throne event rather than they are the ones being offered a drink of water at the start of Re:21.

Isa:65 is about the people sent to hell, they all end up living outside the city, they are also the 2nd group in Re:7 as hell is also know as 'great tribulation'.

Last Edited by Wayfaring Stranger on 01/13/2020 10:34 AM

Sorry, I am not good with prophecy. I don't have the holy spirit to help me to understand it.