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Man who bought ‘residential’ firehouse sued by Seattle - for using as residence

 
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Man who bought ‘residential’ firehouse sued by Seattle - for using as residence
SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction.

Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000.

The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016.

According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code."

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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

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The city sold the property as a residence.
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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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So basically like a party home.
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Wow, that was a bad way of listing that property and then trying to milk the buyer of it who had no control over how they listed it for sale.
The guy should be able to keep his place he bought and it listed as residential.
Or with the mistake they made, they would need to buy it back from him at the going new appraisal for its updated/remodeled price.

That is just too big of sellers mistake and too long before trying to reclaim it as other than they listed it for, that from their own mistake at others/buyers expense.
He should get to keep what he bought just as it was sold and listed as, residential property.

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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

cobainhuh
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


The city sold the property as a residence.
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The property should have been re-zoned to residential before selling it to this guy.

There were complaints, he must have a lot of traffic and cars coming and going to this place. He probably AirBNB's it to people for a big monthly haul. Or worse, has big parties there with cars parking all over the neighborhood, annoying all neighbors.

The real problem is he is using a residential place as a commercial place, and the neighbors are complaining. The property could be re-zoned to residential by the city, so why won't the city do that? And then they would limit his commercial activity in his residence, because it's affecting his neighborhood.

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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

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 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


The city sold the property as a residence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78338066


The property should have been re-zoned to residential before selling it to this guy.

There were complaints, he must have a lot of traffic and cars coming and going to this place. He probably AirBNB's it to people for a big monthly haul. Or worse, has big parties there with cars parking all over the neighborhood, annoying all neighbors.

The real problem is he is using a residential place as a commercial place, and the neighbors are complaining. The property could be re-zoned to residential by the city, so why won't the city do that? And then they would limit his commercial activity in his residence, because it's affecting his neighborhood.
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Literally half of what you said is counter to the interview and the article. And the other half you just made up.

Nice work.
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Didn't someone tell him about this when he applied for permits to remodel the place?

Zoning = basic shit to know before buying real estate.

cobainhuh
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo


The city sold the property as a residence.
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The property should have been re-zoned to residential before selling it to this guy.

There were complaints, he must have a lot of traffic and cars coming and going to this place. He probably AirBNB's it to people for a big monthly haul. Or worse, has big parties there with cars parking all over the neighborhood, annoying all neighbors.

The real problem is he is using a residential place as a commercial place, and the neighbors are complaining. The property could be re-zoned to residential by the city, so why won't the city do that? And then they would limit his commercial activity in his residence, because it's affecting his neighborhood.
 Quoting: Butch DeFeo



Literally half of what you said is counter to the interview and the article. And the other half you just made up.

Nice work.
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Exactly. Or maybe he kept a pet tiger and that’s why they called the city
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The article says it was advertised as "residential." He bought it as such. The municipal government is just trying to fleece the guy & confiscate back what they sold him. This violates the Constitutional provision in the Bill of Rights guaranteeing protection from illegal search & "SEIZURE" of one's property. He bought it & renovated it, now they want to steal it. But this is that Marxist shithole Seattle - Communists gonna do what Communists gonna do. You make it, they take it.
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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SEATTLE — Kroon purchased the property from the City of Seattle in a 2012 auction.

Kroon told KIRO 7 he “thought we had essentially bought a residential property” for $712,000.

The Seattle man then spent thousands of dollars on interior remodeling, and for more than three years, his extended family and friends used the firehouse for holidays, celebrations, charity fundraisers, graduation parties and as an office until a Land Use Notice of Violation arrived in July of 2016.

According to the City of Seattle's violation letter, a "complaint about this property" had been received. A Housing and Zoning Inspector "investigated" and found "violations of the Seattle Land Use Code."

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I would've been hard pressed to not turn it back into a fire house. Immediately, if you catch my drift. Glad things seem to be working out for the owner.
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I owned a business, the size of a firehouse, in a residential area. I argued with the assessor over paying taxes on the real estate but lost...Residential taxes are under 1% and businesses pay 3% which translates to a lot of money...
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In fact, the people I sold my business to built an apartment in one end...they may get in trouble for that! Not my problem grinning
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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They are WAY BETTER than an American city.

Moron.

Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico.

MORON.

Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close.
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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They are WAY BETTER than an American city.

Moron.

Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico.

MORON.

Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close.
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Mexican homes are built so well they don't need air conditioning. American homes are such crap that even with R-280 insulation they get hot as hell without AC, FOR WHAT? Build the house right and it won't be a sweat box.
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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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For his own family. It never said he was making money. Are you that dense?
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77531256


Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
 Quoting: BRIEF


They are WAY BETTER than an American city.

Moron.

Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico.

MORON.

Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568487


Mexican homes are built so well they don't need air conditioning. American homes are such crap that even with R-280 insulation they get hot as hell without AC, FOR WHAT? Build the house right and it won't be a sweat box.
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Drill holes in the roof and push in soda bottles for light too, right?
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77531256


Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
 Quoting: BRIEF


They are WAY BETTER than an American city.

Moron.

Oh, so get some crap from CNN with Pedro's donkey and house of sticks and call that Mexico.

MORON.

Mexico blows America away in the housing department. Not even close.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568487


Mexican homes are built so well they don't need air conditioning. American homes are such crap that even with R-280 insulation they get hot as hell without AC, FOR WHAT? Build the house right and it won't be a sweat box.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77568487



Except the term "American Homes" is retarded because a house in Minnesota would be designed to hold in heat where as a house in Arizona would be designed to shed heat.
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Seattle is a liberal hell hole that is filled now with homeless druggies and mental patients with stinking, putrid aromatic piss and shit odors emanating fro every crevice of the once great city.

What a shame. Evil destroys, horrifically!
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I'm glad the owner is fighting this. He is within his legal right of use based on what I saw in the video. The only thing is that I believe he should change the signage. Historical or not, it shouldn't say Firehouse on the front, as this could potentially confuse people. In the event of an emergency, you wouldn't want someone seeking immediate care showing up on his door. That's a bad accident waiting to happen. Other than that, its a residence.
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I'm glad the owner is fighting this. He is within his legal right of use based on what I saw in the video. The only thing I believe he should change the signage. Historical or not, it shouldn't say Fire Station on the front, as this could potentially confuse people. In the event of an emergency, you wouldn't want someone seeking immediate care showing up on his door. That's a bad accident waiting to happen. Other than that, its a residence.
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Your own article except says he was making money off the place. Hosting it out for receptions and parties.

Hardly a residence.
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So basically like a party home.
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From all descriptions in the news story, it appears that it was a “venue”
Rather than a Residence......and This is a pretty clear case of FRAUD by the city of Seattle by listing the property as a Residence if it is being claimed by the city to now not be a Residence. Keep in mind that they also violated The United States Constitution if they entered the property without a warrant or Probable cause to believe a crime was being committed.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
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I'm happy he had money for a lawyer. Gov always tries to bully people.
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Without organization, building codes, and the like we would end up looking like the slums in Mexico all slapped together and stacked on top of each other...
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Remember that tennant apartment that was owned by some hippies a couple years back, kind of a weird commune place that a man and his wife owned let dozens rent in pressured them into not complaining. They didnt follow basic coding and had pallets for stairs. It caught fire and burned up 20 or so people in a flaming inferno and the hippies were all shocked people were mad at him and he wasnt to blame. Codes are for conservatives not liberals kind of thingy.
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Everyone here arguing about zoning whether in defense or against the guy is a statist government d*xk sucking cuck.
Every American should be able to do whatever they want with their property. Zoning should not be a thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77172304


Yeah that worked well in my small town, City council broke their own zoning ordinances to do a favor for a friend and we ended up with a homeless shelter 501c3 grifter operation dead center of the very small town. With in one year we had a drug addict hang herself from the front of a building and tons of homeless piped in who were shooting up in the fucking streets. So with that logic I can take my business put up some mattresses against the wall and turn it into an opium den or firing range and nobody can do fuck all about it.

My god do you even understand basic structure or city planning?
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Just take the word, firehouse off. Problem solved.

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